Lied about my DOB at new job

Biodegradable

So today was my induction day for a convenience store job. I was told to bring along just my bank details and PPS number. When the manager was entering my details on the PC, I gave him a year that made me one year younger than I am. A few seconds after he entered that in he said "oh yeah and I'll need to get a photocopy of a passport of driver's license. And by making myself a year younger it meant that I changed the year to the first year of a new decade. Oh darn! In the last two jobs I had they never sought for this so I though it'd be grand.

I'll be okay, right. There just might be an awkward moment.

gmisk

Biodegradable wrote: »

So today was my induction day for a convenience store job. I was told to bring along just my bank details and PPS number. When the manager was entering my details on the PC, I gave him a year that made me one year younger than I am. A few seconds after he entered that in he said "oh yeah and I'll need to get a photocopy of a passport of driver's license. Oh darn! In the last two jobs I had they never sought for this so I though it'd be grand.

I'll be okay, right. There just might be an awkward moment.

Just tell them you made a mistake?
In the words of Johnny Logan....what's another year?

Biodegradable

Biodegradable wrote: »

So today was my induction day for a convenience store job. I was told to bring along just my bank details and PPS number. When the manager was entering my details on the PC, I gave him a year that made me one year younger than I am. A few seconds after he entered that in he said "oh yeah and I'll need to get a photocopy of a passport of driver's license. Oh darn! In the last two jobs I had they never sought for this so I though it'd be grand.

I'll be okay, right. There just might be an awkward moment.

Eh, why did you lie about that?

Manager won't care as there's no obvious reason why you would say you're just 1 year younger than you are - he'll put it down to a typo and move on.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Just FYI when registering you for tax (to avoid emergency tax) pps number and dob need to be entered on revenues system and has to match.

Why did you try and make yourself younger? I could see problems if you were young and tried to make yourself older (ie make yourself over 18 so you can serve alcohol. There will be no drama just, oh sorry typo.

banie01

gmisk wrote: »

Just tell them you made a mistake?
In the words of Johnny Logan....what's another year?

In the words of Nadine Doyle...
"I am that age aren't I Mammy!"

road_high

Pretty sure they’re not even allowed ask your age these days- just say you made a mistake if asked. If they make an issue of it they risk being sued for ageism.

He'll assume he heard you wrong, it's not like you tried 10 year difference.

You fancy him don't you.

ED E

road_high wrote: »

Pretty sure they’re not even allowed ask your age these days- just say you made a mistake if asked. If they make an issue of it they risk being sued for ageism.

They cant ask until after you've been hired for risk of a discrimination case. Once you're onboarded its normal to ask.

punisher5112

Are you 29 again....

Biodegradable

gmisk wrote: »

Just tell them you made a mistake?
In the words of Johnny Logan....what's another year?

yeah, if I were losing my mind!

road_high

ED E wrote: »

They cant ask until after you've been hired for risk of a discrimination case. Once you're onboarded its normal to ask.

...and risk one if they drop a persons offer on age grounds. Absolute can of worms that any sensible employer won’t make an issue of

Biodegradable

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I could see problems if you were young and tried to make yourself older (ie make yourself over 18 so you can serve alcohol. There will be no drama just, oh sorry typo.

So will I just let him spot it himself (and hope that he doesn't)! Or will I be brave and say "oh I forgot what age I was the other day"

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Why did you try and make yourself younger?

I'd been handing out a CV that had a fake leaving cert year (two years after real year although I did repeat the LC) so I guess I was trying to avoid them realising that. I don't know what my mind was thinking.

Biodegradable

punisher5112 wrote: »

Are you 29 again....

Where did you come up with that figure?

banie01

banie01 wrote: »

In the words of Nadine Doyle...
"I am that age aren't I Mammy!"

Coyle

punisher5112

Biodegradable wrote: »

Where did you come up with that figure?

Because people hate turning 30.... So they stay 29 for quite some time.

Biodegradable

punisher5112 wrote: »

Because people hate turning 30.... So they stay 29 for quite some time.

Oh right

Purple Mountain

When I was a little girl and used to ask my mammy what age she was, she used to reply 'permanently 29'.
I actually thought for many years of my childhood that that was an actual age.

Biodegradable

Biodegradable wrote: »

So will I just let him spot it himself (and hope that he doesn't)! Or will I be brave and say "oh I forgot what age I was the other day"

Depends, do you think he's the type to read Boards.ie i.e. a feckless layabout? :pac:

Otherwise no. He says the birthday in the system says 1986, but your passport says 1985. You look at him like he's a bit simple and say, no, it's niiiiiine.... teeeeeen eigthyeeeeeee ... fiiiiiive.

He'll assume he picked you up wrong the first time.

the_pen_turner

First of all I don't see any logical reason to lie unless you are under age

2 ways to sort
If the year is in the middle of a decade then pass it off as a typo like 95 instead of 96

If it's obviously a mistake like at the start or end of a decade the I would say to them they have it wrong you are 19 not twenty.

WhatsGoingOn2

The minimum wage is less for those under 20,

Aged under 18 : – €6.86 per hour (70%)
Aged 18 : – €7.84 per hour (80%)
Aged 19 : – €8.82 per hour (90%)
Aged 20 or more : – €9.80 per hour

lunamoon

Unless it's a job where you sell alcohol I don't think this will be an issue.

lunamoon

lunamoon wrote: »

Unless it's a job where you sell alcohol I don't think this will be an issue.

She's older than stated, so not an issue.

Biodegradable

the_pen_turner wrote: »

If it's obviously a mistake like at the start or end of a decade the I would say to them they have it wrong you are 19 not twenty.

That's the thing. When I changed it one year it meant that it's a new decade which means it's more awkward to say.

Biodegradable

Things have gotten a bit more awkward. I said to him in the morning that I had my driver's license and he said "oh I can do that later". Today in the canteen this girl asked me my age when that manager was also in the room. When I answered, she said out loud "oh right you're the same age as (the manager) so". I'd have thought he was older than me by a few years. There's no way he'll have thought it was a typo so. I think I might wait for him to come to me for it!

Happy4all

Biodegradable wrote: »

Things have gotten a bit more awkward. I said to him in the morning that I had my driver's license and he said "oh I can do that later". Today in the canteen this girl asked me my age when that manager was also in the room. When I answered, she said out loud "oh right you're the same age as (the manager) so". I'd have thought he was older than me by a few years. There's no way he'll have thought it was a typo so. I think I might wait for him to come to me for it!

A bit odd the girl asking you your age.

Biodegradable

Happy4all wrote: »

A bit odd the girl asking you your age.

A bit I suppose.

Peatys

Biodegradable wrote: »

yeah, if I were losing my mind!

What's important to you isn't important to other people. Give them the photocopy, they probably won't notice the error and even if they do they'll just put it down to a miss type.

Either way, move on with your life in peace.

tedpan

Answer. Hand in the passport/driver's license. He'll update the system and probably think he typed it in wrongly the first time he asked.

Close thread.

Jeff2

tedpan wrote: »

Answer. Hand in the passport/driver's license. He'll update the system and probably think he typed it in wrongly the first time he asked.

Close thread.

Not its not.

In Homer Simpson voice from far away.

I use a different age for online sites so no one knows my age.

I mean if someone has your name/address/dob and ask you what your first pet was named was.

Happy4all

Happy4all wrote: »

A bit odd the girl asking you your age.

Nah, just a getting to know you nosiness type question.

The only person with any degree of material interest in the OPs age is the OP. The manager doesn't care.

Jim2007

road_high wrote: »

Pretty sure they’re not even allowed ask your age these days- just say you made a mistake if asked. If they make an issue of it they risk being sued for ageism.

Of course it's allowed! How do you expect them to calculate pension entitlements, retirement, holiday entitlements.... You can't discriminate on the basis of age, but it certainly is required to run a business.

Jim2007

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh, why did you lie about that?

This. I could understand someone knocking 5 years of or on depending on the situation, but a year.....

IK09

Dont see the issue here.

When the issue is found, they will automatically assume that they made the mistake because....who in their right mind would get their own DOB wrong...

LollipopJimmy

Why all the lies?

I know CV's are generally fiction but why are you messing around with dates and then dob with your employer?

Biodegradable

Deleted User wrote: »

The only person with any degree of material interest in the OPs age is the OP. The manager doesn't care.

Of course he doesn't care. But he might care if I'm a liar or not!

Biodegradable

Biodegradable wrote: »

Of course he doesn't care. But he might care if I'm a liar or not!

You're missing the point. The DOB you gave is probably one of many thousands of thoughts/ideas/other pieces of information he has come across since you gave him the wrong information.

It's far more likely he'll read this thread and join the dots than think the date on your record was not a simple typing error.

It's a bit like that girl that asked you your age... you became totally paranoid thinking, oh the Manager is going to remember the DOB you gave a few days earlier and will mentally calculate that DOB into a year and have a Tadah! moment and realise you gave the wrong year. No. He's forgotten and you're blowing this all out of proportion.

Biodegradable

Deleted User wrote: »

You're missing the point. The DOB you gave is probably one of many thousands of thoughts/ideas/other pieces of information he has come across since you gave him the wrong information.

It's far more likely he'll read this thread and join the dots than think the date on your record was not a simple typing error.

It's a bit like that girl that asked you your age... you became totally paranoid thinking, oh the Manager is going to remember the DOB you gave a few days earlier and will mentally calculate that DOB into a year and have a Tadah! moment and realise you gave the wrong year. No. He's forgotten and you're blowing this all out of proportion.

When he was setting me up for the hand scan today (I reminded him of this!), he didn't ask for it, so maybe I won't bother giving it unless he asks. Which I doubt he will! I think I'm off the hook.

tedpan

Biodegradable wrote:

When he was setting me up for the hand scan today (I reminded him of this!), he didn't ask for it, so maybe I won't bother giving it unless he asks. Which I doubt he will! I think I'm off the hook.

Cool story bro....

Ursus Horribilis

It's an unskilled job in a convenience store, not NASA.

Peatys

Biodegradable wrote: »

Of course he doesn't care. But he might care if I'm a liar or not!

You're not letting this one go anyway.

Akrasia

Biodegradable wrote: »

Of course he doesn't care. But he might care if I'm a liar or not!

But, regardless of him caring or otherwise, you are a liar.

A strange kind of a liar, someone who lies about very inconsequential yet easily checked facts.

Solution, tell him you're chinese and that you gave him your age in chinese years which is a different calendar, different by exactly the same amount as the difference in the age you gave him at the start

And if he checks this, just tell him that you're an astronaut who spent so long in space that because of relativity, you genuinely are one year younger so you felt it was important to correct this by giving a different DOB.

Just messing btw

Put it down to experience. Don't lie about stuff like this because it's not worth it.

You'll probably get away with it, but there'll be that one time when you won't and you'll feel so ridiculous.

Jim2007

Biodegradable wrote: »

When he was setting me up for the hand scan today (I reminded him of this!), he didn't ask for it, so maybe I won't bother giving it unless he asks. Which I doubt he will! I think I'm off the hook.

No, put who ever is responsible for maintaining the employee file will notice it's missing and follow it up, the pension guys may request it or they are looking for a reason to terminate people later and discovered you lied about your age and so you make the hit list, or there is an immigration inspection and they flag up your file because it does not have the required documents....

Don't let the thing snowball. Hand in the documents, explain that you were a bit nervous on the first day and make a mistake. And end this thing so there is no potential that it can jump and bit you later.

Mrs OBumble

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

It's an unskilled job in a convenience store, not NASA.

Indeed.

So there are no pension reasons, but there may be minimum-wage related reasons.

Either way, retail jobs require the employer to have a LOT of trust in you. OP, You have proven that you are not trustworthy. When caught, I'd expect that you will be told you have failed probation.

In future, don't lie. You only have one reputation. Once it's lost in a workplace, it's gone for good.

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

When caught, I'd expect that you will be told you have failed probation.

She wont be "caught". Don't confuse wishful thinking with probabilities.

Jim2007

Deleted User wrote: »

She wont be "caught". Don't confuse wishful thinking with probabilities.

It's a 50/50 chance and your knowledge of the situation is no better than the one you are criticising.

It was a dump thing to do, but it is easily explained away now and if the OP has any sense, they'll fix it now and but an end to the whole matter.

Biodegradable

Jim2007 wrote: »

It's a 50/50 chance and your knowledge of the situation is no better than the one you are criticising.

It's a tough one. If they do realise it they don't have it, the manager might just say to me "oh, actually I forgot to ask you for that passport copy". They'll hardly sack me for not reminding him.

Jim2007 wrote: »

It was a dump thing to do, but it is easily explained away now and if the OP has any sense, they'll fix it now and but an end to the whole matter.

How should I explain it away?

Option A - give in my passport
Option B - give in my passport and explain that I lied and that I'm sorry

Peatys

Option a.

RocketRaccoon

Why has the op not bothered to say why they lied? That's the only reason anyone is here in this thread now.

Peatys

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Why has the op not bothered to say why they lied? That's the only reason anyone is here in this thread now.

What difference does it make?

tedpan

RocketRaccoon wrote:

Why has the op not bothered to say why they lied? That's the only reason anyone is here in this thread now.

Definitely a trending thing with the op

Jim2007

Jim2007 wrote: »

It's a 50/50 chance and your knowledge of the situation is no better than the one you are criticising.

It was a dump thing to do, but it is easily explained away now and if the OP has any sense, they'll fix it now and but an end to the whole matter.

It's 50/50 in your actuarial opinion? *sigh*

I'm basing on my years and years of HR, payroll and management experience. Where did you get your actuarial degree?