Is Boris Johnson a Sex Pest ?

IAMAMORON

I have heard a lot of rumours about Boris Johnson's private life. He is supposed to have an illustrious history of many extra marital affairs and general womanising.

In the past couple of days it has emerged that Charlotte Edwards has accused him of groping her thigh at a meal 20 years ago.

Without trying to undermine or belittle her accusation, how long should it be allowed for someone to accuse a sexual perpetrator of interfering with them? In particular, I would hope people focus on the severity of the accusation and the timing of it. In this instance I find it difficult to accept that Charlotte Edwards has waited for 20 years to come out with the allegation, why now after 20 years?

Is it disrespectful to other victims of sexual molestation that she has come out now to accuse him of this?

Eric Cartman

its the new slur they all use. The right are the only side who truly abhore sex offenders and thus if you can smear their candidates you can unseat some votes.

One eyed Jack

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have heard a lot of rumours about Boris Johnson's private life. He is supposed to have an illustrious history of many extra marital affairs and general womanising.

In the past couple of days it has emerged that Charlotte Edwards has accused him of groping her thigh at a meal 20 years ago.

Without trying to undermine or belittle her accusation, how long should it be allowed for someone to accuse a sexual perpetrator of interfering with them? In particular, I would hope people focus on the severity of the accusation and the timing of it. In this instance I find it difficult to accept that Charlotte Edwards has waited for 20 years to come out with the allegation, why now after 20 years?

Is it disrespectful to other victims of sexual molestation that she has come out now to accuse him of this?

No, is the straight up answer to that one IMO. I just don’t see how the length of time that has passed should bear any relation to the credibility of a persons allegations against someone. I’m speaking in the context of the circumstances being in any case - there should be no statute of limitations on alleged sexual offences. 20 years isn’t actually actually unusual in alleged victims making allegations of a sexual nature against an alleged perpetrator or perpetrators.

As for the circumstances here, well, I’d be surprised if there weren’t rumours of impropriety and mud slinging directed at a high profile target tbh. However in order for those rumours and allegations to have any substance, credible and supporting evidence is required before attempting to ruin an innocent persons reputation in a Court of Law.

osarusan

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The right are the only side who truly abhore sex offenders.

What an absurd statement.

One eyed Jack

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its the new slur they all use. The right are the only side who truly abhore sex offenders and thus if you can smear their candidates you can unseat some votes.

Tbh Eric I don’t think either left or right, conservative, liberal or progressive, can claim the moral high ground on that score :pac:


Nothing new about it either in fairness, alleging sexual impropriety against the opposition is as old as human history itself.

ILoveYourVibes

Its believable ...he has no conscience ...he conspired to have a man beaten up. He's a sociopath.

ChikiChiki

I'd believe it. The power seems to get him women because its definitely not in the looks department. The hack of him.

ChikiChiki

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its the new slur they all use. The right are the only side who truly abhore sex offenders and thus if you can smear their candidates you can unseat some votes.

Go outside for a walk or maybe camping in the mountains for the weekend. Leave all your devices at home. The break will do you good.

Hande hoche!

Wouldn't surprise me at all. In a similar vein was just thinking about misconduct allegations against Al Franken, seems he has a new one made on Monday.

Gatling

Shocking stuff

Man allegedly touched woman's leg 20 years ago

Steve

Gatling wrote: »

Shocking stuff

Man allegedly touched woman's leg 20 years ago

This.

20 years ago.

If it was do outrageous then why wait 20 years.

Not saying it's right or didn't happen, just extremely timely...

JohnnyFlash

I’d say the poxbottle would get up on the crack of a plate.

IAMAMORON

Steve wrote: »

This.

20 years ago.

If it was do outrageous then why wait 20 years.

Not saying it's right or didn't happen, just extremely timely...

I must admit I find the timing of her accusation most odd. Particularly given the context of her allegation.

Why did she wait so long to come out with this?

Is it a severe sexual assault, does her apparent lax attitude to it undermine or devalue its' depravity in a modern context?

Fiery mutant

He has a very punchable face.

gmisk

I dunno about sex pest, but the fact that no one seems to know if he has 5 or 6 kids is fairly damning he is a total tart

He made the most important speech at the UN last week..

lleti

In fairness, any lad chatting a bird up and putting his hand on her back or something will be called sex pests in the future.

Looking at a birds arse will probably be the same.

Steve

IAMAMORON wrote: »

does her apparent lax attitude to it undermine or devalue its' depravity in a modern context?

Can you even consider it in a 'modern' context?

20 years ago if was a moral and criminal offence to be gay. Should all people who were gay 20 years ago be now subject to trial by social media?

What was acceptable back then, is just as valid as what was unacceptable. It is history though and good riddance.

Again, I'm not defending the person, just arguing the point.

IAMAMORON

Steve wrote: »

Can you even consider it in a 'modern' context?

20 years ago if was a moral and criminal offence to be gay. Should all people who were gay 20 years ago be now subject to trial by social media?

What was acceptable back then, is just as valid as what was unacceptable. It is history though and good riddance.

Again, I'm not defending the person, just arguing the point.

Not so, homosexuality was decriminalised in Ireland in 1993, as far as I am aware. Effectively since a European court ruling in 1988? Albeit I understand the point you are trying to make insofar as 20 years is a long time in generally accepted sexual practices. GASP.

jam_mac_jam

At least he didn't have sex with a pig. I don't know a leg squeeze, mildly creepy. Not really a sex pest.

Steve

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Not so, homosexuality was decriminalised in Ireland in 1993, as far as I am aware. Effectively since a European court ruling in 1988? Albeit I understand the point you are trying to make insofar as 20 years is a long time in generally accepted sexual practices. GASP.

I'll stand corrected on that one .

The older you get, the less 20 years means in terms of memory..

padd b1975

If that's sexual assault, lock me up.

IAMAMORON

padd b1975 wrote: »

If that's sexual assault, lock me up.

He was in a position of authority at the time she is alleging, they both worked for the same newspaper and he technically was abusing his position as a superior employee, if she can prove it. It is most certainly sexual harassment, at the very least.

Steve

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He was in a position of authority at the time she is alleging, they both worked for the same newspaper and he technically was abusing his position as a superior employee, if she can prove it. It is most certainly sexual harassment, at the very least.

Possibly statute barred at this point, not familiar with British law though..

He doesn't seem to have any trouble attracting women so I'd say no.

BorneTobyWilde

He loves to grab a feel

moonage

IAMAMORON wrote: »

In the past couple of days it has emerged that Charlotte Edwards has accused him of groping her thigh at a meal 20 years ago.

She's clearly a remoaner. They're getting very deperate now.

Water John

Suzanne Moore gave him a good title, knowing his personal history, a fellow journalist, Borisconi.

IAMAMORON

moonage wrote: »

She's clearly a remoaner. They're getting very deperate now.

Do you suffer from a lisp or are you too lazy to use spell check ?

moonage

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Is it a severe sexual assault, does her apparent lax attitude to it undermine or devalue its' depravity in a modern context?

Very shoddy.

FTA69

Steve wrote: »

Can you even consider it in a 'modern' context?

20 years ago if was a moral and criminal offence to be gay. Should all people who were gay 20 years ago be now subject to trial by social media?

What was acceptable back then, is just as valid as what was unacceptable. It is history though and good riddance.

Again, I'm not defending the person, just arguing the point.

Was it alright to grope women in 1999 yeah? Don't remember it being a massive thing myself, at least not to right-thinking people.

mcmoustache

osarusan wrote: »

What an absurd statement.

It's as if clerical sex abuse never happened.


And anyway, Boris is neither right nor left. Boris is Boris. He's whatever he wants people to think he is.

mcmoustache

FTA69 wrote: »

Was it alright to grope women in 1999 yeah? Don't remember it being a massive thing myself, at least not to right-thinking people.

I often wonder how these people who minimise groping would feel if I groped their significant others or, in the case of incels, their mothers.


Would they sit there like a cuck and congratulate me or would they throw some flailey armed tantrum in my general direction? It's one thing to share some abstract sh!te online but the real world is a bit different.

p1akuw47h5r3it

mcmoustache wrote: »

I often wonder how these people who minimise groping would feel if I groped their significant others or, in the case of incels, their mothers.


Would they sit there like a cuck and congratulate me or would they throw some flailey armed tantrum in my general direction? It's one thing to share some abstract sh!te online but the real world is a bit different.

"cuck...incels".Go back to bed.

paw patrol

I don't care if it's true . It was 20 years ago and it was the most minor of indiscretions (if true) .
Not my concern nor anybody else's really if somebody did a ham-fisted come-on over a boozy lunch. 20 ****ing years ago.


It's telling - that the other woman who was rumoured to present has denied it ever happened.

sounds like porkpies to me - just a smear campaign.

why, now? cos the tories are ahead of the others in the polls , boris is the most popular leader with the proles - throw in the support for the Brexit party and you have a majority come the next General Election which needs to be done sooner rather than later.

Joe Biden and now Justin Trudeau both on video or film groping... Nothing said. #MeToo has turned into a load of sh1te to discredit people you disagree with. Disgusting on several levels, and a betrayal of real victims.

And Epstein ran an underage sex ring and NO ONE CARES!

Ann22

It depends on the context...if it was done in a "jolly good show..now how are you today" type of thing or a "mmmmmm....you smell nice and I like that blouse on you..especially as it fits nice and snug around the chests" way.
It's hardly a sexual assault though ffs. I remember when i was about 14; I was in a relation' s house and an old visiting farmer had a grip of my thigh for a minute or two as he asked me how I was keeping. I was dead innocent in those days...I was in a room full of people but I had shorts on remember feeling dreadfully uncomfortable but that was bare skin and I didn't feel it was innocently done. I still wouldn't dream of complaining about it now.

Zorya

Groped? Her thigh? Are we supposed to mouth horror now at this ''Sexual assault''? The worst things about social discourse these stupid hysterical days is the mindless lack of nuance, moronic moral equivalence and absence of realisation of the weight of things. One is somehow supposed to start shrieking and gasping equally over a groped thigh as over actual reprehensible sexual assault. The absurd things real rape victims have had to listen to headline seekers emote over these past years.
Twenty years ago? Has she been scarred for life? The poor fcuking eegit, Why did she not stab his flabby thigh right back with the silver fish fork.

Turner

Has Ms Edwards gone to the police or has she just gone to the press?

Boggles

Zorya wrote: »

Groped? Her thigh? Are we supposed to mouth horror now at this ''Sexual assault''? The worst things about social discourse these stupid hysterical days is the mindless lack of nuance, moronic moral equivalence and absence of realisation of the weight of things. One is somehow supposed to start shrieking and gasping equally over a groped thigh as over actual reprehensible sexual assault. The absurd things real rape victims have had to listen to headline seekers emote over these past years.
Twenty years ago? Has she been scarred for life? The poor fcuking eegit, Why did she not stab his flabby thigh right back with the silver fish fork.

Because most people are not Chuck Norris. :rolleyes:

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Gatling wrote: »

Shocking stuff

Man allegedly touched woman's leg 20 years ago

It's an interesting aspect. I guess men find women's legs sexual, so is touching a woman's leg sexual assault in the same vein of touching a woman's boobs, butt or genitalia?



But then, what about a woman touching a man's hands, biceps, chest, or knee? Is that then sexual assault and, if it is, then most women are sexual assaultists :P

Zorya

Boggles wrote: »

Because most people are not Chuck Norris. :rolleyes:

Hallo Son. I would have stabbed the silly simp with a cocktail stick at least, there's only so much flinching one can be expected to tolerate.

Sonics2k

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its the new slur they all use. The right are the only side who truly abhore sex offenders and thus if you can smear their candidates you can unseat some votes.

Can we just change the topic title to discuss this absolute doozy of a statement instead?

Please, please, please back this one up.

begsbyOnaTrain

mcmoustache wrote: »

I often wonder how these people who minimise groping would feel if I groped their significant others or, in the case of incels, their mothers.

I'd tell them to wait two decades, until you're leader of the country and even then only at the crunch time of your premiership, to come out and tell us about it. It's the only sensible thing to do.

They might feel tempted when you're an MP. Nah. Then when you're mayor of the capital city but nah. Wait until you're a big player in a massive national referendum. Nah. When you're in the leadership race for your party. Nah. Just wait...

Boggles

Zorya wrote: »

Hallo Son. I would have stabbed the silly simp with a cocktail stick at least, there's only so much flinching one can be expected to tolerate.

I'm sure you would.

Would be unlikely to happen though.

lleti

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He was in a position of authority at the time she is alleging, they both worked for the same newspaper and he technically was abusing his position as a superior employee, if she can prove it. It is most certainly sexual harassment, at the very least.

Is this gonna be another one of those Weinstein things? Where a woman happily engages in something to advance their own career and then 20 years later says it was sexual assault when they've established their career?

These women could say no, they just chose not to because they wanted to further their career.

Zorya

Boggles wrote: »

Zorya wrote: »

Hallo Son. I would have stabbed the silly simp with a cocktail stick at least, there's only so much flinching one can be expected to tolerate.

I'm sure you would.

Would be unlikely to happen though.

What would be unlikely? For me to have a groped thigh or a stabby cocktail stick?

Boggles

Zorya wrote: »

What would be unlikely? For me to have a groped thigh or a stabby cocktail stick?

For you to be in the company of Bojo at all.

Also "stabby cocktail stick", is that what he calls it?

Zorya

Boggles wrote: »

Zorya wrote: »

What would be unlikely? For me to have a groped thigh or a stabby cocktail stick?

For you to be in the company of Bojo at all.

Also "stabby cocktail stick", is that what he calls it?

In the days of long ago I had an odd life and have been in the company of people far more powerful and far more wicked than Mr Johnson, who is a mere 2 bit oaf compared to some. And when groped, as happens or at least happened regularly enough to young ladies in certain circles of bloated gents, I found my sharp tongue and natural disdain to be an adequate weapon. Then again I was never playing a game with these types, or looking for advancement. Unlike many who blatantly were. No one waits 20 years to authentically come out mourning a groped thigh. The silly lady. To let herself be used ..... again.

Water John

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mary-lou-mcdonald-boris-johnson-needs-to-give-himself-a-good-shake-over-border-proposals-954135.html

Mary Lou suggests that Boris should 'give himself a good shake'.
Might be the remedy for both his personal issues and Brexit.

SJW Lover

Steve wrote: »

This.

20 years ago.

If it was do outrageous then why wait 20 years.

Not saying it's right or didn't happen, just extremely timely...

Exactly. It's not like there havent been plenty of opportunities to kick Boris when down over the past 20 years. He's made mistakes and errors the whole time. This is nothing more than a political smear in my opinion given the timing.