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1971 Mercedes W114 250CE - advice needed

  • 23-09-2019 9:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭ MacDanger


    Hi


    I have a 1971 Mercedes W114 250CE, it was running up until recently (think it's a problem with the fuel pump) but the shed I'm storing it in is needed by the owner so my Merc is out in it's ear. The engine is in good working order (full rebuild done a few years ago) but the electrics need work and it's quite rusty in parts. While it has been running, it hasn't done much mileage in the last 4-5 years so that's not helping.



    The options are:


    - Get it properly repaired and use it more often so it'll need less work and will be easier to store (I can get someone to mind a well-used car easier than one that rarely moves!) I've no idea who I'd get to do this (I'm capable of doing small maintenance on car but not the type of work that's needed here) or what it'd cost

    - Pay for storage (based in north Mayo) and save up cash to do the first option

    - Sell it (any guesses for what it's worth)

    - Leave it outside to rust away into nothing
    - Something else



    Any advice appreciated



    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 8 w116


    hi

    classic cars cost money to run and repair, but in saying that the interior looks good and you say the engine had a full rebuild, so you just need to get it running and sort out the body.

    try find a good mechanic and get it running then you have some options

    too good to let rot, its a cool car
    if you dont want the hassle sell it. easier if its running but not easy in my opinion, the market in ireland is small.

    all the best with it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,916 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    That is a very nice and desirable car. The right engine, coupe, automatic. I agree with w116, get the car running first and take it from there. Even if it has some rust issues, but is not rotten, once running it is worth quite a bit.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭ outfox


    How bad is the rust? Particularly underneath? Do you find water in the footwells after rain?
    I have one myself. I think if you put it into storage as is, it will degrade in a few years to a condition that will be hard to come back from. Those cars do not like being parked up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭ MacDanger




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,903 ✭✭✭ Bigus


    I had one of them in the exact same color , but the more desirable 280ce twin cam injection, but same body except for ribbed rear light lenses. Mine was completely resprayed and looked concours in donedeal photos but was not in reality. Mine drove like a new car, I advertised it for 12500, like the others available and kept reducing it for 5-6 months eventually getting 5500, new buyer did a good few extra bits and advertised it for 7500 for another 4 months and if he sold it , which I guess he did ( or he might have passed away and it’s still in his estate ) and I reckon he got no more about 6- 6500.
    So I’d say sell as is for about 3 k asking and take anything above 1500.
    Brexit is going to collapse classic rhd prices


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭ MrCostington


    MacDanger wrote: »
    I took a few videos, I'd appreciate any advice on whether this is salvagable or not.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭ outfox


    I'm unable to view those videos.
    If the rust is bad, there's no way you can park it up and come back to it in a few years. That option is not a runner.
    Depending on how bad the hidden rust is (particularly sills and bulkhead), you could spend several thousand on bodywork, not including paint. It would probably be cheaper to buy a previously restored one.
    I'd agree with Bigus - sell as is. €2000 would be a good result if you can get it. It will hurt to leave the old girl go, but you have to be pragmatic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭ MacDanger


    Links require you sign in to view.


    I've edited them now, hopefully they're viewable now.


    I'm thinking selling is probably the best option sadly :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭ outfox


    On the basis of the videos, yeah, it's pretty bad. New floors and sills. Bulkhead likely to be gone too.
    Was she from the UK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭ galwaytt


    Bigus wrote: »
    Brexit is going to collapse classic rhd prices

    How'd you come to that conclusion ?

    As even a no deal Brexit will only attract a low tariff I don't think it's going to a huge effect.

    My personal take on it is that cars that are in already may firm up.

    A rare classic is a rare classic, Brexit or not.

    Ode To The Motorist

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭ MacDanger


    outfox wrote: »
    Was she from the UK?

    Yeah, I bought it in London in 2010, will be sad to see her go


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭ outfox


    PM sent


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭ brucky


    Bigus wrote: »
    I had one of them in the exact same color , but the more desirable 280ce twin cam injection, but same body except for ribbed rear light lenses. Mine was completely resprayed and looked concours in donedeal photos but was not in reality. Mine drove like a new car, I advertised it for 12500, like the others available and kept reducing it for 5-6 months eventually getting 5500, new buyer did a good few extra bits and advertised it for 7500 for another 4 months and if he sold it , which I guess he did ( or he might have passed away and it’s still in his estate ) and I reckon he got no more about 6- 6500.
    So I’d say sell as is for about 3 k asking and take anything above 1500.
    "Brexit is going to collapse classic rhd prices
    "

    I don't think the UK were thinking of converting to driving on the LHS prior to the referendum? If anything people will be putting money into tangible assets, not banks. Accurately price the repair costs for your pump, if it outweighs the open market selling price for your car, you have a judgement call to make. However, the car would be easier to sell as running & driving. Having not seen the car but making an educated guess the restoration of your car would far outweigh its value when restored. If you are doing it to keep and cherish go for it. Classics suffer unless they are kept dry. Best of luck.


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