PED testing in the GAA

Bonniedog

Well, report it so. Or go to a journalist.

MayoAreMagic

Bonniedog wrote: »

I do actually have an idea of how it works as l know someone who is involved at pretty high level in athletics coaching.

There are, as I said, examples of clubs in professional sports and corrupt Olympic councils, facilitating and hiding drug taking. There is no evidence that has been happening here.

If you know of a county that discovered a cheat and allowed him continue then you should not be telling me or BDI but reporting it to the relevant authorities. Otherwise you are just retailing rumours and could equally imply that Monaghan and Kerry were complicit in the two cases I referred to.

I dont believe for one moment that they were. You are claiming that a county set up allowed this. That is pretty serious allegation.

If you do know then you must have been deliberately trying to mislead people with your earlier point that in house testing was sufficient... That kinda undermines your input on this topic in general to be honest. You aren't shooting straight here.
Why that is is anyones guess but it is pretty clear from what you have been saying

Bonniedog

I did not say that in house testing was sufficient. I was the person who referred the OP to the testers reports.

I said that on top of the official tests, that teams - including some clubs - do their own testing,

Now, for the third time:

You mentioned that you know of an inter county player who was caught using PEDs and was allowed continue to play by whatever county it was. And no doubt you would like people to assume that it was one county in particular.

So, if you know of that, then report it to the relevant authorities or go to a journalist with the details.

Otherwise you are just spreading malicious scatter gun gossip, with whatever ulterior motive best known to your self.

MayoAreMagic

Bonniedog wrote: »

Sporting bodies can't just "pretend" that their sports are clean!

That would involve the complicity of the testers in covering it up. That happens in some professional sports through bribery, and in some authoritarian states like China and Russia where the testers and the tested are all under state control and as in the case of the Russian whistleblower, at great risk if they say anything.

You don't seriously believe the GAA, FAI. IRFU or BLE or IABA have that going on do you?

This is pretty naive. Are you trying to say that cycling aficionados didn't know that the sport was rife with it? If it is in a sport to the point that coming clean would mean they lose a shedload of interest, and therefore probably their own hefty incomes, they will manage the situation rather than sink the ship. All you have to do is look at how the spanish government handled the scandal that was rumored to involve some of their biggest football stars.

MayoAreMagic

Bonniedog wrote: »

I did not say that in house testing was sufficient. I was the person who referred the OP to the testers reports.

I said that on top of the official tests, that teams - including some clubs - do their own testing,

Now, for the third time:

You mentioned that you know of an inter county player who was caught using PEDs and was allowed continue to play by whatever county it was. And no doubt you would like people to assume that it was one county in particular.

So, if you know of that, then report it to the relevant authorities or go to a journalist with the details.

Otherwise you are just spreading malicious scatter gun gossip, with whatever ulterior motive best known to your self.

I made the point that unless testing was year round it was pointless. You responded by saying they did in house testing too. So you were inferring it, even though you knew it wasnt the case. Quite disingenuous in fairness.

I never said what county the guy was from but it is clear that this is the root of why you want to shut the discussion down. 'Well it couldnt be someone from my county, they are all good lads'
- exactly the attitude that is the problem.

Im not going to say who it is or where they are from, because that would be spreading rumours and that isnt what im trying to do here. The point was that a high profile player was said to be caught and subsequently played afterwards. No names or counties given. That isnt spreading rumors and you know it isnt. It is relevant to the topic and if it was just from some random guy who said it to me, I wouldnt be repeating it here.

Bonniedog

You are a total fraud.

I'm not asking you to name the person.

I'm suggesting that if you know who it is then report it. Such a claim would be taken seriously. If it is not then there are lots of journalists who would pursue it.

So why not report it?

MayoAreMagic

Bonniedog wrote: »

You are a total fraud.

I'm not asking you to name the person.

I'm suggesting that if you know who it is then report it. Such a claim would be taken seriously. If it is not then there are lots of journalists who would pursue it.

So why not report it?

You know that is nonsense. Report it, and they just admit everything when that happens, right?
'Alright alright, you got me!'
You are veing noticeably awkward on this topic, and yet Im the 'fraud'...

I have no doubt that some journalists already know about it to be honest with you. They generally know more than what they put on the page. Some parts they cant go writing down for various reasons. That doesnt mean those parts are not true though.