Log cabin

ChoKuRay

I am thinking about building a one bed log cabin in my garden. Looking for recommendations for a good company who will construct and fit it out. What is the minimum wall thinkness I should be going for?

Gumbo

ChoKuRay wrote: »

I am thinking about building a one bed log cabin in my garden. Looking for recommendations for a good company who will construct and fit it out. What is the minimum wall thinkness I should be going for?

Have you got Planning Permission?
Was the process difficult?

Reason for asking is that I don't know of any valid Planning Grants that allows log cabin bedrooms in gardens. Build up and construction details will depend on the type of structure. Without planning, its simply a Garden Shed.

Abbey127

kceire wrote: »

Have you got Planning Permission?
Was the process difficult?

Reason for asking is that I don't know of any valid Planning Grants that allows log cabin bedrooms in gardens. Build up and construction details will depend on the type of structure. Without planning, its simply a Garden Shed.

I went to get planning permission for a log cabin in the back of my garden had drawings and everything . Was told I didn't need it and to make it bigger to live In. Nobody gets planning permission for logcabins I was told my uncle did the drawings for us. You just need an emergency exit and it can't be to close to your house . Since I have public road behide my house It was easier I just have to put a door leading out to the public road which also has parking space. Looking to rent it out .

BryanF

Abbey127 wrote: »

I went to get planning permission for a log cabin in the back of my garden had drawings and everything . Was told I didn't need it and to make it bigger to live In. Nobody gets planning permission for logcabins I was told my uncle did the drawings for us. You just need an emergency exit and it can't be to close to your house . Since I have public road behide my house It was easier I just have to put a door leading out to the public road which also has parking space. Looking to rent it out .

what you are proposing is illegal. Anything other than a shed that’s less than 25m2 needs planning permission.

Please read the forum charter before posting again, thanks

Gumbo

Abbey127 wrote: »

I went to get planning permission for a log cabin in the back of my garden had drawings and everything . Was told I didn't need it and to make it bigger to live In. Nobody gets planning permission for logcabins I was told my uncle did the drawings for us. You just need an emergency exit and it can't be to close to your house . Since I have public road behide my house It was easier I just have to put a door leading out to the public road which also has parking space. Looking to rent it out .

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your were duped!

Abbey127

BryanF wrote: »

what you are proposing is illegal. Anything other than a shed that’s less than 25m2 needs planning permission.

Please read the forum charter before posting again, thanks

Sorry it is not illegal I went the right way of getting it done before getting it built . And yes I know that's why I made it bigger and it's not a shed by any means.

Abbey127

kceire wrote: »

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but your were duped!

Really don't think I was I went about it the right way unlike alot of others I have seen up. Thanks for your concern but the it has been a great investment I charge a fair price aswell .

Plumbthedepths

Abbey127 wrote: »

Really don't think I was I went about it the right way unlike alot of others I have seen up. Thanks for your concern but the it has been a great investment I charge a fair price aswell .

Can you tell which authority told you that what you proposed at the time was exempt from planning. Interested in your answer.

Sleeper12

Abbey127 wrote:

Sorry it is not illegal I went the right way of getting it done before getting it built . And yes I know that's why I made it bigger and it's not a shed by any means.

You aren't going to win this argument on this thread. I'm not against log cabins for living accommodation in fact a very good friend has one. Having said all of that the above posters are totally correct. You definitely need planning permission for the building and local councils don't give planning permission for log cabins as living accommodation. As an office or playroom yes but not for living accommodation.

BryanF

Abbey127 wrote: »

Really don't think I was I went about it the right way unlike alot of others I have seen up. Thanks for your concern but the it has been a great investment I charge a fair price aswell .

Have a few days off and actually read the forum charter please. We obey the law in this forum. In another forum, in a thread you started, you were told building and renting a log cabin without planning permission is illegal, then you were told not to discuss breaking the law in that forum. What you are proposing and what you claim to be doing is breaking the law.

BarryD2

Sites like this tend to be a bit ambiguous, though this one is based in NI. snip/

'Our pods have a lifespan of 40+ years, require very low maintenance and often do not require planning permission due to their classification as caravans. For home owners wishing to install a camping pod it is most likely that planning permission will not be required due to the permitted development rights. (However confirmation from your local planning authority is advised).'

Any views on above for personal use, not AirBnB.

BryanF

As per the mod post above, we obey the law in this forum


From the same paragraph as the selected text above:

However confirmation from your local planning authority is advised

In the south of Ireland, if you want to live in it , you need planning.

This company provides no certification or compliance with building regulations.

Sleeper12

Has anyone gotten planning for one for accommodation? I remember a thread a few months back and someone claimed to have found a successful planning application online or did I imagine that?

Gumbo

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Has anyone gotten planning for one for accommodation? I remember a thread a few months back and someone claimed to have found a successful planning application online or did I imagine that?

I believe there was one in Cork but the conditions attached to the planning meant it would have been constructed using normal materials.

Then there was another guy, might have been the guy above (abbey) that claimed but ignored all posts asking for evidence.

Me Personally, have not come across one yet. I ha e seen them
Get planning for ancillary use to crèches etc but then they fall short on the fire cert which means they need to stop being used.

Odelay

Why can they be used in other eu countries? What specifically does our building regulations say to prohibit them?
Kcrie, you seem to have fair knowledge about this. Where in the regs is the problem?
Is there a way to solve this? The cost of traditional building in Ireland is prohibitive. Why are we not allowed to build what is allowed in Nordic countries?

BryanF

Odelay wrote: »

Why can they be used in other eu countries? What specifically does our building regulations say to prohibit them?
Kcrie, you seem to have fair knowledge about this. Where in the regs is the problem?
Is there a way to solve this? The cost of traditional building in Ireland is prohibitive. Why are we not allowed to build what is allowed in Nordic countries?

And you know for a fact that the sheds, I mean log cabins for sale in Ireland, are sold in Nordic countries as houses?

Phillip k

I don't understand how people are getting away building these logcabins out there back gardens. I have seen a good few in north and south dublin in tiny gardens and they are defiantly not a home office they are being rented out to mainly students .

BarryD2

BryanF wrote: »

As per the mod post above, we obey the law in this forum


From the same paragraph as the selected text above:


In the south of Ireland, if you want to live in it , you need planning.

This company provides no certification or compliance with building regulations.

There's a fair few of these pods around rural Ireland, being rented out for AirBnB and the like. Some in small developments where you'd assume planning was sought but others as single units adjacent to domestic houses. Probably vacant or used as 'playrooms' by the family for most of the year and let out in summer months. I'd hazard a bet that very few of these would have planning. After a few years, they'd have paid for themselves and if the house was to be sold, the pod could just be taken down, demolished - so no issues arising with the sale.

Now ignorance of the law is no excuse, but if the law is difficult to enforce in areas like this, then the same legislation is pointless. It only discommodes the law abiding citizen and your average chancer can happily get away with it.

Muahahaha

Phillip k wrote: »

I don't understand how people are getting away building these logcabins out there back gardens. I have seen a good few in north and south dublin in tiny gardens and they are defiantly not a home office they are being rented out to mainly students .

They are getting away with it because county councils have next to no resources to enforce the law properly from what I can see. Another example is the recent Airbnb regulations that came in where you need planning permission to rent for more than 90 days a year- from what Ive read DCC have received less than 100 applications for planning permission and have allocated 4 staff to deal with enforcement. In Dublin there are 7,500 properties listed on Airbnb so with 7,400 looking like they might be breaking the law you've got 4 people to deal with something that takes a lot of man hours to enforce.

Gumbo

Odelay wrote: »

Why can they be used in other eu countries? What specifically does our building regulations say to prohibit them?
Kcrie, you seem to have fair knowledge about this. Where in the regs is the problem?
Is there a way to solve this? The cost of traditional building in Ireland is prohibitive. Why are we not allowed to build what is allowed in Nordic countries?

The Building Regulations have specific requirements such as structure, insulation and materials. Fire Safety is a big one too.

As a new dwelling they cannot meet the regulations without significant build up and alterations, so in essence it makes them the same price as traditional build. If people like the log cabin look, then it can be done with proper building methods and a log façade or similar, but most people are buying them because they are cheaper, not look better.

Also, in the Nordic countries, they are colder, but we are damper!

Phillip k wrote: »

I don't understand how people are getting away building these logcabins out there back gardens. I have seen a good few in north and south dublin in tiny gardens and they are defiantly not a home office they are being rented out to mainly students .

Planning Enforcement works on the basis of complaints only. They don't have the staff to drive around and look out for sites as such. Complaints only and then they are strictly enforced.

Muahahaha wrote: »

They are getting away with it because county councils have next to no resources to enforce the law properly from what I can see. Another example is the recent Airbnb regulations that came in where you need planning permission to rent for more than 90 days a year- from what Ive read DCC have received less than 100 applications for planning permission and have allocated 4 staff to deal with enforcement. In Dublin there are 7,500 properties listed on Airbnb so with 7,400 looking like they might be breaking the law you've got 4 people to deal with something that takes a lot of man hours to enforce.

+1

DCC are in the process of setting up an AirBnB specific team. They have earmarked space and staff and I believe they are recruiting from a panel as the current staff numbers wont allow them to maintain the current workload and the AirBnB workload as it will be a break away section of the Planning Enforcement Section.

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Phillip k wrote: »

I don't understand how people are getting away building these logcabins out there back gardens. I have seen a good few in north and south dublin in tiny gardens and they are defiantly not a home office they are being rented out to mainly students .

Anything to back up your claims?

I don't see why there is such aversion to log cabins in this country.

Muahahaha

kceire wrote: »

+1

DCC are in the process of setting up an AirBnB specific team. They have earmarked space and staff and I believe they are recruiting from a panel as the current staff numbers wont allow them to maintain the current workload and the AirBnB workload as it will be a break away section of the Planning Enforcement Section.

The whole Airbnb thing looks like a mess because when the new law was being drafted the initial draft specified that the way it would work was Airbnb would be obliged to provide DCC with the addresses of any properties that were short term lets for more than 90 days a year. Airbnb themselves were strongly against this idea and they lobbied Minister Eoghan Murphy to exclude these obligations from the law. Murphy relented and gave them their way.

So now instead of a relatively automated enforcement system where you just send enforcement letters out to addresses provided by Airbnb what we have is DCC having to hire staff to become private investigators to find out who is breaching the 90 day limit. Its almost like Fine Gael need to be seen to be doing something but actually dont really want to enforce it at all because the law as written has been set up to fail. They'll get a few headline enforcements alright but it will still be ignored on a large scale.

Odelay

kceire wrote: »

The Building Regulations have specific requirements such as structure, insulation and materials. Fire Safety is a big one too.

As a new dwelling they cannot meet the regulations without significant build up and alterations, so in essence it makes them the same price as traditional build. If people like the log cabin look, then it can be done with proper building methods and a log façade or similar, but most people are buying them because they are cheaper, not look better.

Also, in the Nordic countries, they are colder, but we are damper!



Planning Enforcement works on the basis of complaints only. They don't have the staff to drive around and look out for sites as such. Complaints only and then they are strictly enforced.



+1

DCC are in the process of setting up an AirBnB specific team. They have earmarked space and staff and I believe they are recruiting from a panel as the current staff numbers wont allow them to maintain the current workload and the AirBnB workload as it will be a break away section of the Planning Enforcement Section.

“The Building Regulations have specific requirements such as structure, insulation and materials. Fire Safety is a big one too.”

Thanks for the reply. However it is very broad. What parts of these regulations do they not meet?
Where specifically do they fall down? I keep hearing they don’t meet regs, and talk about them here is not encouraged, but I don’t see it explained where the exact issue is?
What improvements need to be made to comply?

BryanF

Odelay wrote: »

“The Building Regulations have specific requirements such as structure, insulation and materials. Fire Safety is a big one too.”

Thanks for the reply. However it is very broad. What parts of these regulations do they not meet?

Lets reverse the question -please confirm what sections of the below they comply with?
https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/building-standards/tgd-part-d-materials-and-workmanship/Technical-guidance-documents

BryanF

Wayne Hallowed Pacemaker wrote: »

Anything to back up your claims?

I don't see why there is such aversion to log cabins in this country.

When used for habitable accommodation they don’t comply with building regulations, all most people don’t seek planning permission. Have you read this thread and the hundred other threads in this forum on this topic ?

koheim

kceire wrote: »

Also, in the Nordic countries, they are colder, but we are damper!

This is simply not true, Nordic countries are wetter and damper than Ireland. But also colder in winter and warmer in summer!
99% of houses are built of wood, with wood cladding. There are zero concerns regarding rot of the wood or fire safety for that matter.
I do not understand why a wood cladded buildings in Ireland is a problem, it would work perfectly well here as well?

runawaybishop

koheim wrote: »

This is simply not true, Nordic countries are wetter and damper than Ireland. But also colder in winter and warmer in summer!
99% of houses are built of wood, with wood cladding. There are zero concerns regarding rot of the wood or fire safety for that matter.
I do not understand why a wood cladded buildings in Ireland is a problem, it would work perfectly well here as well?

It would work perfectly well here,that is true - if you brought it up to code. The same house using traditional building methods would be cheaper. That's why you dont see them.

People advocating their use don't really care about them being log cabins, they just want cheap housing which is fair enough. Building a log house that meets our fairly stringent requirements is more expensive than building the same house out of blocks.

BryanF

koheim wrote: »

There are zero concerns regarding rot of the wood or fire safety for that matter.
I do not understand why a wood cladded buildings in Ireland is a problem, it would work perfectly well here as well?

no one suggested wood clad buildings in Ireland are a problem. I’ve detailed and signed off on plenty. Wood is a sustainable building material, I built my extension timber frame. The point made above is the sheds been sold here don’t meet Irish building standards or have planning permission.

endacl

Odelay wrote: »

However it is very broad. What parts of these regulations do they not meet?

Specifically, and in layman's terms, if they go up in flames, and it's out your back garden with somebody living in it, a fire engine can't gain access.

That's the reg an overwhelming proportion of them would fall down on, even if they somehow would have been granted planning otherwise. You'd have to fit a fire engine sized tunnel through your gaff to make an occupied cabin legal.

endacl

Abbey127 wrote: »

I went to get planning permission for a log cabin in the back of my garden had drawings and everything . Was told I didn't need it and to make it bigger to live In. Nobody gets planning permission for logcabins I was told my uncle did the drawings for us. You just need an emergency exit and it can't be to close to your house . Since I have public road behide my house It was easier I just have to put a door leading out to the public road which also has parking space. Looking to rent it out .

smelly sock

Crazy stuff. The family looking for an extra room in their garden for a reasonable price get penalised yet we let guys like Tom McFeely in priory hall make millions building ****e. A real banana republic.

Where were these regs when the lads were throwing up crap.

BryanF

and we’ll leave ‘the state of ireland’ rants there.
This is the construction & planning forum
Thanks

Torsevt

endacl wrote: »

Specifically, and in layman's terms, if they go up in flames, and it's out your back garden with somebody living in it, a fire engine can't gain access.

That's the reg an overwhelming proportion of them would fall down on, even if they somehow would have been granted planning otherwise. You'd have to fit a fire engine sized tunnel through your gaff to make an occupied cabin legal.

They don't need to drive the fire engine into the cabin they use a hose
Just Saying

endacl

endacl wrote: »

Specifically, and in layman's terms, if they go up in flames, and it's out your back garden with somebody living in it, a fire engine can't gain access.

That's the reg an overwhelming proportion of them would fall down on, even if they somehow would have been granted planning otherwise. You'd have to fit a fire engine sized tunnel through your gaff to make an occupied cabin legal.

And what is you have a completely unobstructed side entrance with a very large side garden ? The fire hydrant is right outside my house, local fire authorities recently came out and sprayed blue paint in it . Fire engine could drive right up to the side gate and pull hose through?
I don’t understand all the regulations around them either?

I’d love to build one in my garden , move into it myself and let my daughter husband and baby have my house , why is this so difficult?

sydthebeat

Those fire regs are not the reason log cabins don't meet Irish building regulations.

The main ones are energy efficiency regulations which have required u values for the structure; materials and workmanship which require min 50 years life expectancy of the building; part m disabled access due to design and layout of bathrooms.

I know plenty of situations where a vendor of these buildings had disappears once requested to provide certificate of compliance with all regulations.

Gumbo

koheim wrote: »

99% of houses are built of wood, with wood cladding. There are zero concerns regarding rot of the wood or fire safety for that matter.
I do not understand why a wood cladded buildings in Ireland is a problem, it would work perfectly well here as well?

You need to read the thread properly.
Timber clad houses are not the issue, its Log Cabins. And Log Cabins being sold as habitable units when the suppliers are quoting directly to customers the Planning and Building Regulation exemptions for domestic sheds.

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

I don’t understand all the regulations around them either?

I don't understand the legal process myself too well, that's why I trust a Solicitor.
If you think Log Cabins can comply, ring around as many architects, engineers or surveyors to see if one, even one will take on the project to issue Certificates of Compliance.

Also, ring around every single log cabin provider in the country, yes every single one of them and ask will one, even one supple a Certificate of Compliance.

I've already done this, but i'll leave the leg work to you if you don't believe my posts.

Deleted User wrote: »

I’d love to build one in my garden , move into it myself and let my daughter husband and baby have my house , why is this so difficult?

Why cant you build a granny flat connect to the house?
Rear gardens are designed as private open space, there are reasonable levels of privacy expected to your neighbors and adding more structures in the garden, thus providing more people into that space, it diminishes the reasonable levels of privacy allowed to residents.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

I don't understand the legal process myself too well, that's why I trust a Solicitor.
If you think Log Cabins can comply, ring around as many architects, engineers or surveyors to see if one, even one will take on the project to issue Certificates of Compliance.

Also, ring around every single log cabin provider in the country, yes every single one of them and ask will one, even one supple a Certificate of Compliance.

I've already done this, but i'll leave the leg work to you if you don't believe my posts.



Why cant you build a granny flat connect to the house?
Rear gardens are designed as private open space, there are reasonable levels of privacy expected to your neighbors and adding more structures in the garden, thus providing more people into that space, it diminishes the reasonable levels of privacy allowed to residents.

Where did I say I didn’t believe you ..... I said I didn’t understand? There is a difference.

I’ve done lots of legwork on this. I’ve been to many many log cabin providers, 4 or 5 this year alone. I’m not getting one as I know there are issues around regulations but nobody is every that clear what exactly they are. The closest I got was fire retardant materials and issues around that. So why can some provider not source cabins that ARE compliant with fire regulations. It’s very frustrating.
If these are suitable for habitation in other countries, why can we not get a product here that is also suitable for living in ?

I’m a regular visitor to Vancouver where these seem to be everywhere and people live in them. I’m not here to argue , I’m simply looking for answers .

And I don’t want a granny flat connected to the house , simple as. I’m only in my 50’s and working full time ! We all like our space.

I have a very large garden completely private, not overlooked by anyone .the sunniest side at the furthest wall of the garden , well away from the main house. It would be a lovely spot for a small log cabin but looks like it’s just not possible. I wanted to give my house to my daughter and husband (an architect) and baby for a few years when they return from Vancouver in 2020 and build their own house here............but that could take a few years.

I’m not disputing regulations but surely forums like this are the exact place for ordinary Joe Soaps to ask questions ? Not to be shut down .

BryanF

Deleted User wrote: »

If these are suitable for habitation in other countries, why can we not get a product here that is also suitable for living in ?

I’m a regular visitor to Vancouver where these seem to be everywhere and people live in them. I’m not here to argue , I’m simply looking for answers .

I worked in Canada on site stick built timber framed buildings, most have timber cladding

But these are NOT what we’re talking about here.

When you see timber cladding in Canada, we just replace that for render finish in Ireland, that’s all. Because that’s traditional vernacular that’s all.

BryanF

Deleted User wrote: »

And I don’t want a granny flat connected to the house , simple as. I’m only in my 50’s and working full time ! We all like our space.

I have a very large garden completely private, not overlooked by anyone .the sunniest side at the furthest wall of the garden , well away from the main house. It would be a lovely spot for a small log cabin but looks like it’s just not possible. I wanted to give my house to my daughter and husband (an architect) and baby for a few years when they return from Vancouver in 2020 and build their own house here............but that could take a few years.

I’m not disputing regulations but surely forums like this are the exact place for ordinary Joe Soaps to ask questions ? Not to be shut down .

So what’s the problem? you have a big garden! You can apply for planning/ seek local authority approval for a separate dwelling in your back garden. I’ve done this in cork city several times. Once you get planning build your house, maybe the planners will accept it clad in timber.

Ps, ‘Ordinary joe soaps’ are very welcome here.

Muahahaha

Phillip k wrote: »

I don't understand how people are getting away building these logcabins out there back gardens. I have seen a good few in north and south dublin in tiny gardens and they are defiantly not a home office they are being rented out to mainly students .

It would beg the question about what will happen a homeowner if one of these log cabins goes on fire with a student inside it. Ignorance of the building and fire regs will not be sufficient to stop criminal charges and the house insurance company will be running a mile when they hear their client had an illegal development in the back garden that they were renting out to students.

Aside from that as other posters have mentioned you can get these log cabins up to regulations but its just that it would cost as much as a normal block built dwelling. So the reason landlords are buying these is because they do not meet the regulations and thus are much cheaper. Which is fine for them as they sit in their energy efficient house and the tenant is freezing cold in a log cabin down the bottom of the garden in winter paying through the nose for the privilege.

BryanF

BryanF wrote: »

So what’s the problem? you have a big garden! You can apply for planning/ seek local authority approval for a separate dwelling in your back garden. I’ve done this in cork city several times. Once you get planning build your house, maybe the planners will accept it clad in timber.

Ps, ‘Ordinary joe soaps’ are very welcome here.

I’ve a feeling it would cost a lot more to build a bricks and mortar construction than buy a log cabin. I was looking at high end log cabins, really thick Scandinavian wood, treated with fire retardant for around €30-35K all in, including ground works . I doubt I’d build something for the same amount, the budget is what’s putting me off.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve a feeling it would cost a lot more to build a bricks and mortar construction than buy a log cabin. I was looking at high end log cabins, really thick Scandinavian wood, treated with fire retardant for around €30-35K all in, including ground works . I doubt I’d build something for the same amount, the budget is what’s putting me off.

There is no way you will get a log cabin that complies with building regs and ancillary works for 35k. For a high end shed possibly.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

There is no way you will get a log cabin that complies with building regs and ancillary works for 35k. For a high end shed possibly.

It was -snip- and the quote was the end of last year so I could be wrong, maybe that didn’t include all works, but they were by far the best quality . They’d cost nothing to heat , really well insulated and warm. When you say above “complies with building reg “ that still doesn’t mean you’ll get permission to live in it , right? So there’s no point . I wouldn’t take the risk of spending so much only to be told to take it down .
Having said that I’ve seen log cabins everywhere , lots here in Meath, most of them in the countryside.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It was Coppolla -snip- and the quote was the end of last year so I could be wrong, maybe that didn’t include all works, but they were by far the best quality . They’d cost nothing to heat , really well insulated and warm. When you say above “complies with building reg “ that still doesn’t mean you’ll get permission to live in it , right? So there’s no point . I wouldn’t take the risk of spending so much only to be told to take it down .
Having said that I’ve seen log cabins everywhere , lots here in Meath, most of them in the countryside.

Were they willing to provide you with a certificate of compliance? If not they are selling an expensive shed.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Were they willing to provide you with a certificate of compliance? If not they are selling an expensive shed.

He was upfront that there are no log cabins that will pass regulations in Ireland , even though the same log cabins are used for living spaces in Scandinavian and Eastern European countries. -snip- are a really good product and nothing like the stuff I’ve seen from Irish companies. Insulated Walls up to 180mm thick, also available in round logs up to 210 mm thick. All treated with fire retardant. These are sold as log houses , but in Ireland you still won’t get planning for one to live in. They’re anything but sheds . Check out -Snip- under ‘log houses ‘

They also do a selection of residential log cabins but wood in these is 70/90mm so not as sturdy a product. It’s a moot point anyway as you can’t live in any of the above here

You were right , I’m way off on the prices . These -snip- houses are over €60 K

Plumbthedepths

If you can't get permission to use these log structures as a permanent dwelling they are sheds, expensive attractive sheds but still sheds. Listing other countries is irrelevant as it is the Irish planning system that holds sway here.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

If you can't get permission to use these log structures as a permanent dwelling they are sheds, expensive attractive sheds but still sheds. Listing other countries is irrelevant as it is the Irish planning system that holds sway here.

I understand this, that’s the point I was making.

But I’m still puzzled why ........these log houses are no more flammable than any house , the wood is treated , it would be like trying to set fire to an ash tree with a match. Surely at the rate the world is advancing , increased demand, and rapid changes and improvements in building materials (including wood )a product could be made that would comply with planning in Ireland ?

There are lots of us who’d be interested in a log house/cabin as an option, single people, couples starting off, older people trading down etc etc.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I understand this, that’s the point I was making.

But I’m still puzzled why ........these log houses are no more flammable than any house , the wood is treated , it would be like trying to set fire to an ash tree with a match. Surely at the rate the world is advancing , increased demand, and rapid changes and improvements in building materials (including wood )a product could be made that would comply with planning in Ireland ?

There are lots of us who’d be interested in a log house/cabin as an option, single people, couples starting off, older people trading down etc etc.

It is possible to make a log structure compliant with Irish planning regs, but then you are in the territory of the log structure being of similar cost to a traditional build. Something the log 'house' companies fail to tell
or highlight potential customers.

sydthebeat

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I understand this, that’s the point I was making.

But I’m still puzzled why ........these log houses are no more flammable than any house , the wood is treated , it would be like trying to set fire to an ash tree with a match. Surely at the rate the world is advancing , increased demand, and rapid changes and improvements in building materials (including wood )a product could be made that would comply with planning in Ireland ?

There are lots of us who’d be interested in a log house/cabin as an option, single people, couples starting off, older people trading down etc etc.

I've listed some of the problems already in this thread