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Burger King drops the Ham in Hamburger as it's offensive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    But a hamburger gets its name from Hamburg, the city in Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Far from being dirty pigs are actually clean creatures. But hey irrational beliefs become the norm when you start believing in sky gods and fairy tales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Its a publicity stunt.
    Faux outrage/ faux offense category.

    Strap your product to politics and watch your google rating soar.

    Dont post about it.
    Delete the tread. Tired of this shyte.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Burger King now serves bacon in South Africa – but dropped ‘ham’ from the names of burgers ‘to be more respectful’ of halaal clients
    https://www.businessinsider.co.za/burger-king-south-africa-drops-ham-from-hamburger-name-after-halaal-store-change-2019-9

    I never really got why it was called a hamburger anyway. Scares me a little there just calling it a Burger though god only knows what it could be in it when you visit a foreign country.

    It got it's name from Hamburg in Germany I believe. I'm open to correction on that. Like the frankfurter and Frankfurt. Which makes this move by Burger King even more ridiculous. It's got nothing to do with ham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    But a hamburger gets its name from Hamburg, the city in Germany.

    So where does Mohammed get his name?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Why is everyone so desperate to be outraged...by the outraged? Hopefully it'll all fade away as we all become bored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    But a hamburger gets its name from Hamburg, the city in Germany.

    from article
    A hamburger is by definition made of minced beef and does not contain pork. The "ham" is in reference to the German city of Hamburg, where hamburger patties were supposedly first made.

    Burger King knows this, South African chief operating officer Juan Klopper told Business Insider South Africa on Friday, but it still wants to avoid any possible confusion.

    "It is just to be super-sensitive to perceptions, and to be super clear," he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    It got it's name from Hamburg in Germany I believe. I'm open to correction on that. Like the frankfurter and Frankfurt. Which makes this move by Burger King even more ridiculous. It's got nothing to do with ham.

    So you're saying there's no Frank in a furter, either??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    There's nothing like some nice steamed hams, prepared in the traditional style as they do in upstate New York.

    Steamed hams! yummmmmmmmm :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Burger King now serves bacon in South Africa – but dropped ‘ham’ from the names of burgers ‘to be more respectful’ of halaal clients
    https://www.businessinsider.co.za/burger-king-south-africa-drops-ham-from-hamburger-name-after-halaal-store-change-2019-9

    I never really got why it was called a hamburger anyway. Scares me a little there just calling it a Burger though god only knows what it could be in it when you visit a foreign country.

    Burgers are supposed to be beef so if anything the name should make you more suspect.

    This is ridiculous virtue signalling and I would say even the majority of the Muslim community find this to be farcical pandering. Gonna keep enjoying my XL Bacon Double Cheeseburgers and chilli cheese bites, the best fast food order from any chain in Ireland, don't @ me.

    Apart from their garbo chips, maybe they should be concentrating on that...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Out-reeeeeeeeeee-age!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Maybe they want to sell burgers to make sure that people know there is no ham in them. Not everyone knows the origin of every English word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Hopefully it'll all fade away as we all become bored.

    Well lets all hope Tess Holliday's statement dress doesn't fade away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Why is everyone so desperate to be outraged...by the outraged? Hopefully it'll all fade away as we all become bored.

    Because we want ham, not Islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Well lets all hope Tess Holliday's statement dress doesn't fade away.

    I've no idea who or what that is. I must have missed that meeting ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jimgoose wrote: »
    So you're saying there's no Frank in a furter, either??

    No guarantees on that one I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Because we want ham, not Islam.

    I would like neither in my burger.
    As a connoisseur of the cheeseburger I'm offended! ;)

    Most likely they want to sell burgers to the Muslims who might not want to buy them. There's all those invading Muslims right? All that terrorism makes you hungry, gotta eat something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    So they are dropping the word Ham to be more respectful to their Halaal clients, but have introduced Bacon to the menu in some of their oulets.
    What a load of laughable ballcocks.
    Next they will consider dropping all meat products so as not to offend vegans or some other headline grabbing rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Did you know that KFC had to change their name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because what they sell is so genetically modified that they're not legally allowed to call it chicken. The farm sentient beings with 6 breasts and 20 legs. I read it on a toilet wall once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    There's nothing like some nice steamed hams, prepared in the traditional style as they do in upstate New York.

    Steamed hams! yummmmmmmmm :)

    Utica or Albany?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    There likely wasn't any outrage or people claiming offence. But those outraged by made-up/one/a handful of complaints on Twitter is pretty great promotion.

    Probably didn't make much sense for Burger King to include the ham in hamburger in the first place considering it's dropped from the company's own name.

    🤪



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Did you know that KFC had to change their name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because what they sell is so genetically modified that they're not legally allowed to call it chicken. The farm sentient beings with 6 breasts and 20 legs. I read it on a toilet wall once.

    Actually they hide the 'fried'. They go by KFC not Kentucky Fried Chicken.

    I'm still hurting over the whole Marathon/Snickers thing. What's a f***ing Snickers ffs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    Far from being dirty pigs are actually clean creatures. But hey irrational beliefs become the norm when you start believing in sky gods and fairy tales.


    The (false) idea that pigs are dirty stems from their inevitable condition when penned in in numbers in a little sty. Which is how humans have known them for thousands of years.

    The taboo on pig meat in certain religions may be tied to very ancient connection between pig meat which apparently is close to human flesh in taste and taboo on cannibalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Did you know that KFC had to change their name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because what they sell is so genetically modified that they're not legally allowed to call it chicken. The farm sentient beings with 6 breasts and 20 legs. I read it on a toilet wall once.

    you steam a good ham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Did you know that KFC had to change their name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because what they sell is so genetically modified that they're not legally allowed to call it chicken. The farm sentient beings with 6 breasts and 20 legs. I read it on a toilet wall once.

    Yeah, I heard that one before.. so just for those who think it might be true.. :)

    490298.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    Actually they hide the 'fried'. They go by KFC not Kentucky Fried Chicken.

    I'm still hurting over the whole Marathon/Snickers thing. What's a f***ing Snickers ffs?

    I'm going out for a run, I'm training for a snickers.

    (Far easier than a marathon...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Read about this a couple weeks ago. They also made a handy list of all the outlets that wont be halaal anymore and listed the next closest halaal outlet. In some cases its only a couple hundred meters apart. In other cases its more than 400km apart. Would have to be a die hard burger king fan.

    https://www.businessinsider.co.za/burger-king-restaurants-in-south-africa-that-will-not-be-halaal-from-september-2019-8


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    . Not everyone knows the origin of every English word.

    Pretty sure Hamburg is a German word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    jimgoose wrote: »
    So you're saying there's no Frank in a furter, either??
    Nah, Frankfurt was a city of the Franks so it's all about them! But it could have originated in quite a few places.


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  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ich bin ein Berliner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The (false) idea that pigs are dirty stems from their inevitable condition when penned in in numbers in a little sty. Which is how humans have known them for thousands of years.

    The taboo on pig meat in certain religions may be tied to very ancient connection between pig meat which apparently is close to human flesh in taste and taboo on cannibalism.
    Quran apparently say you can't eat it unless you're starving! The Scottish pork taboo is very odd!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    As usual the right wing "snowflakes" are outraged by something absolutely ridiculously unimportant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Aegir wrote: »
    Ich bin ein Berliner
    Ich bin irre(I'm crazy) is another awkward slip of the tongue as against Ich bin ire(I'm Irish)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Maybe they want to sell burgers to make sure that people know there is no ham in them. Not everyone knows the origin of every English word.


    People who were niggardly with their education?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,990 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Outside of fast food places, any time I see this on a menu in Dublin it's down as a beef burger.
    I always disliked Hamburger as the name as it's not made from ham and I hate Germans. It's one of those reasons at least.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Aegir wrote: »
    Ich bin ein Berliner


    eh...I think your mean Ich bin ein Hamburger :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    But a hamburger gets its name from Hamburg, the city in Germany.

    How dare you try letting facts get in the way of a company's virtue signalling.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Jesus Christ some people really look to get outraged.

    I mean, if any of the virtue-signallers actually read the article, it shows that it’s making the change to highlight to Muslims that the burgers are not actually made from ham, despite the name.

    Like, move on and read what’s being said instead of reading the headline and coming on here to Muslim bash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    So it seems it has confused customers

    https://pluralist.com/burger-king-south-africa-ham-muslims/
    Juan Klopper, chief operating officer for Burger King’s South African market, told Insider that his company is aware of this fact.

    “It is just to be super-sensitive to perceptions, and to be super clear,” he said.

    Klopper also told Insider that Muslim customers have inquired about the “ham” part of its hamburger items in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    There is such a thing as a ham burger I got served one once, I can understand why people might ask. Sausages are a whole different kettle of fish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    hmm, I know a lot of Muslims living here in Hamburg, and I've yet to hear of any of them being offended by the city name. Maybe I should get the mayor to change to city name to Burg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    There's nothing like some nice steamed hams, prepared in the traditional style as they do in upstate New York.

    Steamed hams! yummmmmmmmm :)

    Well, Zero, you are an odd fellow but I must say you steam a good ham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Cant be real, outrage marketing, that said the UK handed a pub owner an asbo for naming his carpark a ‘porking lot’ next to a mosque , so the world is still screwed up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭quokula


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Outside of fast food places, any time I see this on a menu in Dublin it's down as a beef burger.
    I always disliked Hamburger as the name as it's not made from ham and I hate Germans. It's one of those reasons at least.

    This, it's perfectly normal and common to call it a burger or a beef burger. I can see how in some countries where western food is not as mainstream, or amongst people who might have moved there and not be fluent with English but have seen beef burgers sold elsewhere, they might be confused into thinking a hamburger is a burger made of ham.

    Simplifying the name is a pretty straightforward common sense thing to do in this situation that has no downside whatsoever, other than invoking faux outrage from a small number of deranged closet racists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    biko wrote: »

    Why highlight that they are muslims, rather than just ****ing idiots?


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