Is The Late Late Show Dying

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I may use this as my name here (based on soccer late goals moreso than Ryan Tubridy I may add!!) but is the TV chatshow of the same name dying?

One has to ask: tomorrow night all they can come up with is 3 candidates from the mediocre reality TV show Love Island and try and pass this off as exciting. It would seem this show and indeed the whole Irish entertainment scene is dying?

gmisk

Nope it is not dying I think the viewing figures are still insanely high.

Is it generally any good? Nope not really.

Taxburden carrier

This parrot is dead

Dakota Dan

It died as soon as the current gimp took it over, did you hear he’s hailed a hero now after saving a baby?

gmisk

The most watched irish tv programme of 2018
The late late toy show - Nov 30th - 1.55 Million

I actually think Tubridy is a lot better at it than Kenny ever was.

Murt10

Haven't watched it in years, and have absolutely no interest in ever watching it ever again.

The Toy Show however is the exception to its general viewing figures. It will be watched by loads of people with their kids, but it's just an annual Black Swan event. Most people who watch it won't have watched it the week before or the week after.

Dakota Dan

Murt10 wrote: »

Haven't watched it in years, and have absolutely no interest in ever watching it ever again.

The Toy Show however is the exception to its general viewing figures. It will be watched by loads of people with their kids, but it's just an annual Black Swan event. Most people who watch it won't have watched it the week before or the week after.

I don’t even watch that, it suits tubridy down to the ground as he is an over grown child at heart.

KevRossi

gmisk wrote: »

The most watched irish tv programme of 2018
The late late toy show - Nov 30th - 1.55 Million

I actually think Tubridy is a lot better at it than Kenny ever was.

Kenny was far better at the serious discussion side and with politicians, Tubridy simply cannot hide his bias as he has shown most notably with Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Enda Kenny. On the other hand is his simpering and fawning interview with Hilary Clinton.

That is simply appalling and above all, totally unprofessional behaviour from a broadcaster from a supposedly impartial state broadcaster.

He should have been sacked years ago, but he has been on the payroll at RTE since he was a teenager and he knows exactly where the skeletons are hidden there.

Dakota Dan

KevRossi wrote: »

Kenny was far better at the serious discussion side and with politicians, Tubridy simply cannot hide his bias as he has shown most notably with Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Enda Kenny. On the other hand is his simpering and fawning interview with Hilary Clinton.

That is simply appalling and above all, totally unprofessional behaviour from a broadcaster from a supposedly impartial state broadcaster.

He should have been sacked years ago, but he has been on the payroll at RTE since he was a teenager and he knows exactly where the skeletons are hidden there.

Tubridy is an idiot if he is interviewing a guest with a happy story he gets all shouty and jumpy if it's a guest with a sad story he drops his shoulders and puts on his mournful low voice, pure artificial.

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gmisk wrote: »

Nope it is not dying I think the viewing figures are still insanely high.

Is it generally any good? Nope not really.

A lot of people tune in out of tradition or to watch the odd good bit or to see some relative playing an audience game or whatever. Each season of this and the other chatshows has produced some good guests but mainly it is the same old people.

Taxburden carrier wrote: »

This parrot is dead

Yes!

Dakota Dan wrote: »

It died as soon as the current gimp took it over, did you hear he’s hailed a hero now after saving a baby?

I am not a particular fan of Tubridy or Pat Kenny either. The host can often be as bad on a chatshow as a bad referee blowing a whistle and interrupting the flow of the game. Sadly, both Kenny and Tubridy have ruined many an interview with a good guest (Tubridy will mess up the upcoming one with Margaret Atwood in some way you can be sure and this would come to light when you compare M. Atwood's other interviews from the same time). I think both Kenny and Tubridy are poor interviewing good guests because they are too used to interviewing guests who are basically RTE programme presenters like Baz, Bannon and Barry.

gmisk wrote: »

The most watched irish tv programme of 2018
The late late toy show - Nov 30th - 1.55 Million

I actually think Tubridy is a lot better at it than Kenny ever was.

Kenny and Tubridy have been poor overall but one thing Tubridy is good at is this. Of course, I am too old for this and have no interest but somehow Tubridy works fine in this environment.

Murt10 wrote: »

Haven't watched it in years, and have absolutely no interest in ever watching it ever again.

The Toy Show however is the exception to its general viewing figures. It will be watched by loads of people with their kids, but it's just an annual Black Swan event. Most people who watch it won't have watched it the week before or the week after.

That is true. Families will tune into the toy show but will be less likely to tune into the usual one featuring say Baz talking about his new series of Wingman, Bannon on about Room To Improve, Barry doing his usual hypnosis act or Louis Walsh telling us about the new boyband sensation he manages.

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I don’t even watch that, it suits tubridy down to the ground as he is an over grown child at heart.

Yes!

KevRossi wrote: »

Kenny was far better at the serious discussion side and with politicians, Tubridy simply cannot hide his bias as he has shown most notably with Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Enda Kenny. On the other hand is his simpering and fawning interview with Hilary Clinton.

That is simply appalling and above all, totally unprofessional behaviour from a broadcaster from a supposedly impartial state broadcaster.

He should have been sacked years ago, but he has been on the payroll at RTE since he was a teenager and he knows exactly where the skeletons are hidden there.

Kenny was supposedly 'better' will politicians than Tubridy. So, they gave Kenny his own chat show 100% focused on politics. The Frontline was another disaster and showed that while Kenny could interview politicians, he was not able to expand the topic basis for his debates. It was all about banks and very negative.

Tubridy's bias towards politicians is typical RTE. Gaybo's attitude to Gerry Adams was another variant of same back in the mid 1990s. It is debated often if political content should be on the LLS at all. With current Brexit, enough loud political debate exists already and there is Prime Time on RTE covering this in a better way than the LLS or Frontline ever could.

Interviews like the Hilary Clinton one were supposed to be major highlights but were forgettable. Sure, I'd have voted for her in 2016 and would vote for the Democrat in 2020 if I was American but going over to interview Clinton especially was not worth it and it was not very interesting. Republic of Gilead-style threats are on the rise within the Republicans and a more interesting debate would be with a Republican Irish American featuring on the same night Margaret Atwood is on! Tubridy did interview an IA Republican and that was bland too: Sean Spicer.

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Tubridy is an idiot if he is interviewing a guest with a happy story he gets all shouty and jumpy if it's a guest with a sad story he drops his shoulders and puts on his mournful low voice, pure artificial.

I have to agree. That is it exactly. Tubridy and Kenny pretending to be interested in people's sad stories reminds me of that Pat Shortt clip where the chatshow host interviews the farmer about 'Geraldine' who turns out to be his cow.

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And the new show's lineup includes Love Islanders, Keith Barry and Sinead O'Connor along with a tribute to firemen and the like.

Atlantic Dawn

They need to kill off D'arcy or anyone else running a show on a Saturday night in the same week as LLS, the country is too small for that guest base. My suggestion run them 6 months a piece and don't let the live staff of RTE all go on holiday in July and August like some bullsh!t from 1945, unionised handy number kip.

HailSatan

You're all dying one day at a time

JP Liz V1

Love Island was the big hit everywhere over the summer, so getting those 3 on this early is huge

Tubs will have fanny flutters

ButtersSuki

Dakota Dan wrote: »

It died as soon as the current gimp took it over, did you hear he’s hailed himself a hero now after saving a baby?

FYP.

lertsnim

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Love Island was the big hit everywhere over the summer, so getting those 3 on this early is huge

Tubs will have fanny flutters

I'd have thought Love Island was mostly forgotten about at this stage. The final was when?

Padraig Mor

Dying? It's a rancid corpse at this stage FFS.

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lertsnim wrote: »

I'd have thought Love Island was mostly forgotten about at this stage. The final was when?

Cannot understand RTE's obsession with Love Island since they didn't even show the damn thing

JP Liz V1

lertsnim wrote: »

I'd have thought Love Island was mostly forgotten about at this stage. The final was when?

The contestants are popular, some getting their own shows and clothing ranges, I think this past series was the highest rated so now two series a year

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Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They need to kill off D'arcy or anyone else running a show on a Saturday night in the same week as LLS, the country is too small for that guest base. My suggestion run them 6 months a piece and don't let the live staff of RTE all go on holiday in July and August like some bullsh!t from 1945, unionised handy number kip.

RTE have a habit of flooding the screens with chatshows. Now, they have Tubridy's LLS, D'Arcy's Show and the daytime show. Last year, they had Cutting Edge in there too and in the past, The Frontline. That is WAY TOO MUCH. Sometimes, these chatshows are general, others then are divided up as either light (very lightweight more like it!) entertainment or political (misery about banks more like it!).

Same guests, same topics, same presentation style. I agree there should only be one chatshow with what you say but would not run them for 12 months. Have it divided among 3 different presenters each of who can handle different topic types and run it from September to December and January to May as is. There is not enough room for 2 let alone multiple chatshows. And I'm only counting RTE here: TV3/Virgin and the Irish wing of ITV (now gone) also had theirs too often with Pat Kenny. Way too much covering the same old faces.

Sonny noggs

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RTE have a habit of flooding the screens with chatshows. Now, they have Tubridy's LLS, D'Arcy's Show and the daytime show. Last year, they had Cutting Edge in there too and in the past, The Frontline. That is WAY TOO MUCH. Sometimes, these chatshows are general, others then are divided up as either light (very lightweight more like it!) entertainment or political (misery about banks more like it!).

Same guests, same topics, same presentation style. I agree there should only be one chatshow with what you say but would not run them for 12 months. Have it divided among 3 different presenters each of who can handle different topic types and run it from September to December and January to May as is. There is not enough room for 2 let alone multiple chatshows. And I'm only counting RTE here: TV3/Virgin and the Irish wing of ITV (now gone) also had theirs too often with Pat Kenny. Way too much covering the same old faces.

Cheap programming as well as the opportunity to cross promote all their other programmes by having other programme presenters as guests.

saabsaab

It seems to me to be somehow "in" to complain about the late late but all chat shows have to work with what is available and can't be exciting all the time. Some may compare with the Graham Norton show. he has famous guests and I think Tubs would be just as good if he had the resources available.

gmisk

saabsaab wrote: »

It seems to me to be somehow "in" to complain about the late late but all chat shows have to work with what is available and can't be exciting all the time. Some may compare with the Graham Norton show. he has famous guests and I think Tubs would be just as good if he had the resources available.

I cant agree with that.....he is a world away from Norton - but he is ok and does a decent job IMO, who else exactly would do a better job and want the late late show gig?

funkey_monkey

Tubs is awful. Has no banter or of the cuff ability to adapt during an interview.
The format of the show is very stale too.

I doubt it could move to Norton style but certainly the James Corden show or any of the others in the USA is not unobtainable. Although anything I've seen them yet to do a 'fun' segment it has been or cringe.

You have you wonder what the programme planners in rte get paid for. T last in gaybo's time there was a bit of controversy every now and again.

Ash.J.Williams

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Cannot understand RTE's obsession with Love Island since they didn't even show the damn thing

tubs is driving this one

Ash.J.Williams

saabsaab wrote: »

It seems to me to be somehow "in" to complain about the late late but all chat shows have to work with what is available and can't be exciting all the time. Some may compare with the Graham Norton show. he has famous guests and I think Tubs would be just as good if he had the resources available.

the fact you put "in" in "" means you are definitely Ryan Tubridy or his father

it's not "hip" to watch it is it?

zoobizoo

The Late Late is day time television in a prime time slot.


Each 'interview' is like a mini This is Your Life - so rather than focus on the person, Ryan will focus on the biggest story of their life, regardless of how far in the past that is.

Mick McCarthy 'Saipan' for example rather than "so Mick, how are ya!". A star's biggest movie 30 years ago than what they are doing now.


Tubridy is the Peter Principle in action. He has risen to his level of inability.

I don't think that he's smart or aware enough to see his shortcomings to try to improve on them.

Agent Coulson

The Late Late has turned into Live at 3 actually that is an insult to Live at 3.


Where it was once a great mix of current affairs and great to really great interviews across all spectrums it is now a Z list light entertainment show.

Dakota Dan

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RTE have a habit of flooding the screens with chatshows. Now, they have Tubridy's LLS, D'Arcy's Show and the daytime show. Last year, they had Cutting Edge in there too and in the past, The Frontline. That is WAY TOO MUCH. Sometimes, these chatshows are general, others then are divided up as either light (very lightweight more like it!) entertainment or political (misery about banks more like it!).

Same guests, same topics, same presentation style. I agree there should only be one chatshow with what you say but would not run them for 12 months. Have it divided among 3 different presenters each of who can handle different topic types and run it from September to December and January to May as is. There is not enough room for 2 let alone multiple chatshows. And I'm only counting RTE here: TV3/Virgin and the Irish wing of ITV (now gone) also had theirs too often with Pat Kenny. Way too much covering the same old faces.

RTE had better shows back in the 70’s they’re on a downhill slope since. Mart and market was more interesting than Darcy or Tubridy, no fakery from Mick Dillon.

99problems1

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Cannot understand RTE's obsession with Love Island since they didn't even show the damn thing

They're still putting up articles about it.

Latest is about "clothes deals the stars have made since."

Man Vs ManUre

Would be good if they had Mcgregor on tonight to talk about the pub incident and this wknds Khabib fight!!

DublinWriter

Gaybo had the best idea of having the open panel format, which was later used to much success by Parkinson and Norton.

Many defining moments of Irish society were from the LLS back in the 70s/80s.

Now, the LLS is unwatchable. It's just a carousel of lightweight entertainment Z-listers being interviewed by a fairly incompetent host.

Dare I say it, even Kenny was better.

AndrewJRenko

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Mart and market was more interesting than Darcy or Tubridy, no fakery from Mick Dillon.

Bullocks, as he used to sat on Hall's Pictorial Weekly.

SirChenjin

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Love Island was the big hit everywhere over the summer, so getting those 3 on this early is huge

Three z list 'celebrities' IMO, sad to see that's what the LLS has sunk to. I doubt many chat shows are competing to have them as guests.

DublinWriter wrote: »

Gaybo had the best idea of having the open panel format, which was later used to much success by Parkinson and Norton.

Many defining moments of Irish society were from the LLS back in the 70s/80s.

Now, the LLS is unwatchable. It's just a carousel of lightweight entertainment Z-listers being interviewed by a fairly incompetent host.

Dare I say it, even Kenny was better.

I gave up watching since Tubridy took over. Tried every so often when I saw that there was someone interesting but it's too painful.
He has zero rapport with guests. He has his cue cards and regardless of what a guest says in response to his scripted questions, he can't make an interview flow. Dolores Keane, for example, some years ago, said she had been given the all clear from cancer. Tubridy's response - next scripted question.

The 50th anniversary show where both Gaybo and Pat Kenny were on with him really showed Tubridy up. They both wiped the floor with him, that night, as an interviewer, and they weren't in any way, setting out to do that. They simply were able to interact and respond to guests which Tubridy cannot do.

I don't watch the Toy Show, I will look at clips if I read about some particular moment that viewers enjoyed. But I think Tubridy tries to make it all about himself.

TLDR: I'm not a Tubridy fan and I think the LLS is dead.

Oasis1974

Once the older generation are gone it will die nobody wants to watch that overpayed clown talk to Grade Z celebrities. Isn't he doing a new slant for his next outing by not wearing a tie dreadful TV guy should be ashamed of himself.

ZeroThreat

Dakota Dan wrote: »

It died as soon as the current gimp took it over, did you hear he’s hailed a hero now after saving a baby?

I reckon he was just re-watching the 1987 film The Untouchables over the weekend and was imaging he was in the train station scene..

James Brown

It can't die. Ryan needs a job and after Ryan some other RTE inbred will be in line. It's been an entertainment zombie for decades. Once they fill air time it'll be on. I think I'm on next week. Have a sore ankle, misery slot.

lertsnim

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The contestants are popular, some getting their own shows and clothing ranges, I think this past series was the highest rated so now two series a year

Popular with the Late Late Show target audience?

JP Liz V1

lertsnim wrote: »

Popular with the Late Late Show target audience?

Maybe not, they prefer Nathan Carter, Dermot Bannon, Amanda Brunker and Francis Brennan

I find this is a very interesting thread, so here's my tuppence worth.

Whatever I may think of the presenter's ability, I do think LLS is a very demanding format which, to work well, needs an exceptional host.

It is almost the perfect broadcasting storm.... It's very long - at 135 minutes, it's longer than many feature films.

Filling that time results in a magazine programme with topics/themes that don't go together easily - interviews that reel from happy stories, ones of hope, the overcoming of struggles and survivors of hardship etc, then the roller coaster of a show heads down the slope to down-in-the-dumps stories of grief, hopelessness, tragedies and so on. It's not easy or comfortable for the audience, present or at home watching, to go from one emotional extreme to the other.

It's broadcast live (AFAIK, anyway); even a broadcaster with the talent and easy way of Graham Norton (I am a big fan - he's so quick witted and treats guests as equals, never superiors or - more importantly IMO - inferiors) his show is very well edited into a snappy, entertaining, flowing 50 minutes. The format Graham uses of having most of the guests on for all the show really works for me. There's cross-pollination (I need to think of a better expression!) between guests, who start to engage with one another and share experiences, so there's a multiplier of what on the LLS is often a one-on-one interview, backwards and forwards, cue cards being tapped on the desk and so on

I agree with the comment above that there simply isn't the number and calibre of guests available to provide 2 "chat shows", especially on consecutive nights!

Having only been here during Pat's and Ryan's tenure, I've only seen Gay on YouTube, but he does seem to have been entirely on top of his game, so capable of holding the miscellany of the show together. He still is a tough tough act to follow, it seems to me

saabsaab

Why the unjust moaning about Tubs. He is the number one broadcasting talent in Ireland at the moment and probably the only one who could move across the water and get a bigger salary.

Happy4all

Haven't watched it In years

jippo nolan

Dakota Dan wrote: »

RTE had better shows back in the 70’s they’re on a downhill slope since. Mart and market was more interesting than Darcy or Tubridy, no fakery from Mick Dillon.

“Cowjack”

Ash.J.Williams

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Would be good if they had Mcgregor on tonight to talk about the pub incident and this wknds Khabib fight!!

and the 2 rape accusations and payoffs and what not

Ash.J.Williams

saabsaab wrote: »

Why the unjust moaning about Tubs. He is the number one broadcasting talent in Ireland at the moment and probably the only one who could move across the water and get a bigger salary.

he bombed in he UK

splinter65

saabsaab wrote: »

Why the unjust moaning about Tubs. He is the number one broadcasting talent in Ireland at the moment and probably the only one who could move across the water and get a bigger salary.

The best he could hope for in GB is covering for some presenter on BBC radio 2. They always like to have a Henry Kelly type around.

briany

People should just admit that a Friday night talk show is no longer the end-all be-all. It's no longer 1981 where the Late Late dominates your entertainment landscape. I'm not saying it should be gotten rid of, but it should be recognised that its place is now relatively a small one.

It's Tommy Tiernan's show that now gives me a bit of the old Late Late feeling. It can be serious, it can be funny, but the host generally has the wit and the empathy to get a show out of whoever's on, and wouldn't be hitting a secret panic button whenever a guest does something unpredictable, like Ryan Tubridy would.

Dakota Dan

jippo nolan wrote: »

“Cowjack”

Who loves ya calfie

It died around the early-mid 90's but shhhhhh, don't tell anyone....

we're still claiming the tax credits from Revenue

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The lineup for yesterday's show seemed more like a midseason filler inner show than the opener. Let's take a look:

Keith Barry? The same old same old.
Lewis Capaldi? Yet another bland modern singer songwriter being overhyped.
Sinead O'Connor as a handmaid? Blessed be the fruit, may the lord open! Should have been kept back to go on with Margaret Atwood!
And the Love Island trio: tuned in briefly and saw clips of this awful show (which I didn't watch). Reliance on smut is all that such shows can offer. Someone has to replace Al Porter I suppose.

By and large, the show was bad and no change from what we had last year. I think it is time to park it and move on.

jeremyj1968

The show is dead as long as Tubridy is in charge. All the other late night talks shows have a comedian presenting. The Late Late Show is presented by a self confessed wannabe history teacher. He might be suited to that, but he is certainly not suited to this. A new host could give the show a new lease of life but I'd doubt RTE would be brave enough to even suggest this.