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Automated Tills

  • 03-09-2019 11:50AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭


    What is the story with all the people whinging about automated tills in shops?? I love them, quick, easy and scan and you're out. No inane small talk, no "have you got a store card", no waiting for them to count out the change. It's incredibly handy.

    I've seen people moaning that they "take jobs away from humans". But I doubt many people have been fired because of them. There are always tills open as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ok.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I've changed my f*cking mind





  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They're convenient if you're in a hurry, instead of being stuck in a queue behind some customer fumbling for change. A positive having another option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    They're convenient if you're in a hurry, instead of being stuck in a queue behind some customer fumbling for change. A positive having another option.

    They should have larger ones for trolleys too.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    They should have larger ones for trolleys too.
    and someone to scan the items for you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Unexpected Item in the Bagging Area.

    Yes, the decapitated head of your creator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The young one on standby in the local Dunnes could probably serve as many as the four automated tills.


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pain in the hole, most of the time.
    You can't quickly scan everything the same speed someone who's paid to sit there all day scanning can.
    Even if you could, you've to wait for the machine to register that you've placed the last item in the 'bagging area'.
    You can't do multiples at the same time such as pressing 6 and then scanning one can of beer or whatever......You have to scan each one individually, and place it down before scanning the next one.
    This means you've sometimes got to separate items that are bound together, like a 6-pack
    "UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA!!!!!!!!"
    You've to wait for the attendant to authorise any over-18s purchases or if anything goes wrong
    You've to search for anything that doesn't have a barcode
    Have the voice of Yoda, the ones in Dealz do..........I don't know how their employees aren't out massacring anyone under 3ft tall

    The advent of contactless payment sped up the whole process of paying for goods. Automated tills have slowed that down to a crawl, it's even worse than it was before. Anyone who thinks they're better because they "don't have to talk to the attendant" is a weirdo and has bigger issues going on than their inability to make small talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    It's not for your convenience. They are forcing you to get used to them letting queues build up at the normal checkouts, one less wage for them to pay.


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They're convenient if you're in a hurry, instead of being stuck in a queue behind some customer fumbling for change. A positive having another option.

    In my local Tesco, it's often quicker to use the main checkouts as the queue for the automated ones is 4 times longer and takes an age for the reasons listed above. If you're only getting a few bits, the people ahead often let you skip them as well, making it quicker. I've never seen that in the self-checkout queue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I particularly find it weird when someone stands behind me at a regular till with one or two items if I have a full trolley of shopping and there'a an automated checkout nearby.

    I never let these people in front of me - I would if there's no automated tills - but if they choose to go to a regular till, they're waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Hate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I go to Lidl/Aldi and have my shopping fired at me like a real man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    and someone to scan the items for you

    Why would you need someone to do that? Should shops have someone to walk around with you and put the items in the trolley for you too??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Why would you need someone to do that? Should shops have someone to walk around with you and put the items in the trolley for you too??

    Why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Pain in the hole, most of the time.
    You can't quickly scan everything the same speed someone who's paid to sit there all day scanning can.
    Even if you could, you've to wait for the machine to register that you've placed the last item in the 'bagging area'.
    You can't do multiples at the same time such as pressing 6 and then scanning one can of beer or whatever......You have to scan each one individually, and place it down before scanning the next one.
    This means you've sometimes got to separate items that are bound together, like a 6-pack
    "UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA!!!!!!!!"
    You've to wait for the attendant to authorise any over-18s purchases or if anything goes wrong
    You've to search for anything that doesn't have a barcode
    Have the voice of Yoda, the ones in Dealz do..........I don't know how their employees aren't out massacring anyone under 3ft tall

    The advent of contactless payment sped up the whole process of paying for goods. Automated tills have slowed that down to a crawl, it's even worse than it was before. Anyone who thinks they're better because they "don't have to talk to the attendant" is a weirdo and has bigger issues going on than their inability to make small talk.

    Sounds like someone has trouble using them. I've never had an issue with them. Searching for a bread roll is fairly handy. If you are constantly having issues, you are the common denominator. There should be one till for people like you, otherwise the queues of people that can actually use technology are being held up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    They're great. Anyone complaining about the UNEXPECTED ITEM IN BAGGING AREA is because 9 times our of 10 I see dopes not putting an item down on time or simply just not waiting for the goddamn lady putting the item down animation on the screen. You know, WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO.

    People will be acting like they're in a mad rush, just wait and do it properly and it is still quicker than any person automated till. Also bugs me seeing people in their 50's or 60's acting like it's a piece of alien technology.

    It's not like technology wasn't prevelant in your life and computers haven't been around now in a good functioning capacity since you were young enough and in your 30's. No excuse for the luddites, just conetemptuous stares as I wonder why their lazy a** is looking around giving me the "THeSe Bl00dY MaChines!" look. No it's just you and your unwillingness to learn something straight forward and new....FOLLOW THE DAMN INSTRUCTIONS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't get why anyone would hate them, but if you do no one is forced to use them.

    They do suit ppl with a handful of item. As a single guy that's the way I tend to shop and I don't miss the days when I would spend longer in a queue than it did to pick the items. I admit I'm quite impatient when it comes to being in a queue but I don't have to suffer than now anywhere near as much I used to.

    The first iteration of them are prone to errors but I've noticed the newer ones are better that I've seen in Dealz and the new ones in my local Dunnes.

    In the future I'm hoping you just pick up your times and your charged automatically as you exit via your smartphone :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because it's handier to swipe them through, pay and go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,482 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    They should have larger ones for trolleys too.

    In my homeland, 15 years ago, they introduced hand held scanners that you use when putting items into the trolley.

    Glad to see Ireland finally getting somewhere near catching up....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,514 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    In my homeland, 15 years ago, they introduced hand held scanners that you use when putting items into the trolley.

    Glad to see Ireland finally getting somewhere near catching up....

    they had those in Superquinn 15 years ago too, don't know why it's taken so long for them to reappear.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    loyatemu wrote: »
    they had those in Superquinn 15 years ago too, don't know why it's taken so long for them to reappear.

    A ha. I knew i remembered them being somewhere over here and can clearly recall them now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭oneilla


    Why Self-Checkout Is and Has Always Been the Worst


    The key point is that installing self-checkout is an opportunity for employers to reduce employee hours—these are rarely salaried workers—regardless of whether the system “works.” This is a phenomenon that Astra Taylor dubbed “fauxtomation”—whereupon the logic of automation is deployed to offer companies to slash wages, hours, benefits, or entire jobs, regardless of whether the system replacing them is actually up for the task (it often isn’t)—and it often arrives hand-in-hand with ****ty automation.

    So grocery store and retail employees are scrambling to make the “labor-saving” technologies “work,” at behest of management, which is well aware that many tens of thousands of dollars have been sunk into this technology, which everyone hates.

    Employees who had been hired as cashiers have to learn how to do things that are not at all in their original job description, like repair malfunctioning machines, how to walk shoppers through the system, and how to soothe them when they became frustrated, lest the worker face management’s displeasure. They’re also subjected to experimentation with confusing and freshly ****ty automated systems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    loyatemu wrote: »
    they had those in Superquinn 15 years ago too, don't know why it's taken so long for them to reappear.


    Much easier to nick a few items I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    In my homeland, 15 years ago, they introduced hand held scanners that you use when putting items into the trolley.

    Glad to see Ireland finally getting somewhere near catching up....
    I remember Superquinn used to have those here, must be more than 20 years ago, but they never seem to have taken off in a big way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    I go to Lidl/Aldi and have my shopping fired at me like a real man
    I race the till operator to fill my trolley quicker than they can scan,packing with both hands and strategically placing loose veg that need to be weighed or fresh bread that needs a code to be keyed in shopping on the conveyor to slow them down.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I race the till operator to fill my trolley quicker than they can scan,packing with both hands and strategically placing loose veg that need to be weighed or fresh bread that needs a code to be keyed in shopping on the conveyor to slow them down.


    you should open a tin of peas on the conveyor belt, that'll learn em


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I go to Lidl/Aldi and have my shopping fired at me like a real man

    The amount of times I've lightly grazed the hand of the Aldi person when gabbing my stuff is far too great to count at this stage. I'm fairly positive we are basicslly dating at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,043 ✭✭✭gifted


    Why would you need someone to do that? Should shops have someone to walk around with you and put the items in the trolley for you too??


    Sure that's why we bring the young kids shopping.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    kneemos wrote: »
    Much easier to nick a few items I'd imagine.

    They used to select self scan trolleys at random to have everything scanned at a standard checkout to keep people honest.


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