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TrainerRoad - over 18 euro a month?

  • 02-09-2019 12:37pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭


    I wanted to get back on the trainer and on a training plan again only to find out that now TrainerRoad has gone up to 19.95 US Dollars p/month
    Are they gone mad?

    :mad:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    More than just the indoor stuff now. I'm "grandfathered" in at the price I was at, but have been able to drop Training Peaks premium sub with the analytics and calendar options they have. Also, outdoor workouts live with Garmin bike computers and watches, and due this month with Wahoo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    I've bought a power meter and I wanted to get on a training plan like I said... I read about the analytics, but I was totally oblivious about the outdoor thing... Did you say that now with TR you can do workouts outdoor? I have a Garmin Edge 520 and now also a pedal based PM, so if that's the case, this is becoming a lot more interesting all of a sudden...


  • Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    wow, this is a game changer!


    https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024352332-Outside-Workouts#targetText=Outside%20workout%20files%20uploaded%20to,sync%2C%20or%20through%20manual%20upload.&targetText=Not%20everyone%20has%20a%20way,can%20manually%20complete%20outside%20workouts.

    If you have a power meter, outside workouts can be sent directly to your Garmin head unit. This allows you to follow a workout directly without writing down the instructions of the workout. For more information on how to push a workout to your Garmin, click here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    It's a lot cheaper than a coach, let me tell you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    I'm glad I bought a power meter as opposed to a smart trainer now...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭joey100


    Yep can now do workouts outside on a garmin. And I think they alter any parts of the workout too that may make it difficult to do outside, trying to make it more outside friendly. I'm 'grandfathered' in too, think I pay 8 euro a month. I'm not sure there's a better 8 euro (or probably even 18 euro) a month I could spend on my cycling. Most of the sessions are easily replicated and you could do them without having trainer road, just using your computer and power meter but personally something about having that line on the screen makes me work harder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,520 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Miklos wrote: »
    It's a lot cheaper than a coach, let me tell you!

    Agreed but as a former TR user the plans brought me so far but when my racing progressed the coaching brought it to another level that with two winters of TR couldn't get me.

    It all depends on what you want from your bike at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    joey100 wrote: »
    And I think they alter any parts of the workout too that may make it difficult to do outside, trying to make it more outside friendly.
    Yes, they are modified. It's not a direct like for like, more training benefit based taking into the realities of outside workouts. I don't think they've reworked every inside workout, but as far as I'm aware most have an outdoor alternative.

    When you're scheduling a workout you just select "outside" and it puts that in the calendar and pushes to your garmin. If you're scheduling a training plan on the calendar, you can pick which workouts on what days, and do (for example) every Saturday as the outside option. I'm still waiting to test them as I have a bolt. Planning on at seeing whether the outside workouts work better on the non-smart hybrid rollers I use for a lot of my workouts.

    The Calendar is great, as you can work back from your A Race/ Main event. And you can sync it with external calendars. About the only functionality it's missing is the automatic upload of non-cycling activities.

    The only bad thing about the calendar and outdoor workouts is that they're so dead against HR measures. If you don't have power, it's all RPE.


  • Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    dahat wrote: »
    Agreed but as a former TR user the plans brought me so far but when my racing progressed the coaching brought it to another level that with two winters of TR couldn't get me.

    It all depends on what you want from your bike at the end of the day.

    Totally agree. I raced through A4 on a TrainerRoad program but once I got out it didn't quite cut the mustard for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭joey100


    What do you think was the big limitation of trainer road compared to the coach? Trainer road not individual enough?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,520 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Miklos wrote: »
    Totally agree. I raced through A4 on a TrainerRoad program but once I got out it didn't quite cut the mustard for me.

    Exactly the same position as I was in. I landed in A3 as a strong A4 with a win & 4tj place across a season. However it was obvious very early that in order to avoid being dropped on a regular basis I needed to make the next step.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,520 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    joey100 wrote: »
    What do you think was the big limitation of trainer road compared to the coach? Trainer road not individual enough?

    TrainerRoad is fantastic and I credit my A4 win to the work done there but its general stuff that is nor specific to a riders needs or weaknesses.

    The one to one aspect cannot be underestimated but its a two way process, honest self assessment is critical in order for coach to give sessions or blocks that are suitable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Don Juan II


    I was on TR for a couple of years - thought it was brilliant (as an A4/A3).
    However, I stopped using it and started using Golden Cheetah ... that brought me to A2 and then A1. It's Open Source software (i.e. FREE)
    https:// www .goldencheetah.org/

    There are 2 keys aspects to Golden Cheetah:

    1. Using it while sitting on the turbo like Trainer Road (you can download 4,000+ different workouts from here: https: // ergdb.org/ or easily make your own ... i.e. copy your favourites from TR)

    2. Analysing your training. Once you have months/years of data training with a PM, Golden Cheetah will give you a form/stress lines. It takes a bit of getting used to, but it's an incredible tool and will get rid of the need for a coach. All this PM data can be gathered on the trainer or on the road.


    #2 above is very like Training Peaks. If you want to peak for a specific race in 3 weeks time, you can work backwards from that date and design a specific training load that will have your "form line" in the graph peaking while the "stress line" in the same graph dipping.

    (sorry - I can't post links yet as I'm a new user)


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭bren_mc


    I have a trainerroad sub (at the "grandfathered" rate of $10/month) that I don't intend renewing. Username, email and payment method are all updateable so if anyone is interested in taking it over, let me know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    Trainerday (4$ pm) and intervals.icu fantastic combination and can be used in a mobile capacity.(warm up pre race).

    seems to do all trainerroad and training peaks does,for a fraction!

    The Only Cycling Workout Sharing Platform, Cycling Training App and Coach Jack - TrainerDay

    TrainerDay + Intervals.Icu - Brings you affordable cycling training plan solutions. - YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    steep learning curve on how to use it, not very user friendly.

    believe me i have tried!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭wersal gummage


    Interested in this Bren mc, will try send you a message if still available, thanks




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I set up a new account yesterday and was going to start a thread asking if anyone had a discount. My money is paid so I'm too late now!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I would think that you have 13 days left on a distance selling cooling off period, but I'm no expert.



  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭bren_mc


    I've handed it over to wersal gummage yesterday so too late anyway, sorry.



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