Shooting in US!

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1167912378215743490


Ongoing - nutter in Texas

I would just like to give my thoughts and prayers in advance.

riffmongous

Jesus 30 people. F'ed up

Spare the thoughts and prayers. This is an out of control epidemic with innocent lives lost by the dozen.

McDermotX

Here we go again.


If only every US citizen exercised their God-given right to be tooled up, none of this would be happening.


Or something.

bilston

This is mental.

Why are there not tens of millions of Americans marching against their ridiculous gun laws?

Part of me thinks that the horse has bolted to such an extent (or there's that many guns out there already) that changing the gun laws now wouldn't make a not of difference.

Anyway hopefully casualties are at a minimum, particularly amongst kids. All loss of life is tragic, but when government inaction leads to the needless deaths of kids then you have to wonder what the actual f*** is going on.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

rom

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/odessa-texas-shooting/

They are saying there are two shooters.

alchemist33

delminteop wrote: »

Multiple gunshot victims. Some people on Twitter saying this will overtake the Vegas shooting as the worst in US history!

Jaysus wept!

Hopefully most of those 30 are just injured.

c.p.w.g.w

Hunky Monster wrote: »

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

But it's the ease at which mentally ill persons are legally obtain firearms is the issue

rom

Hunky Monster wrote: »

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

You need a license to get a truck at least as pass some sort of test.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

But it's the ease at which mentally ill persons are legally obtain firearms is the issue

Agreed. The checks only go so far. How can you tell if someone buying a gun is mentally unstable or not?

IvySlayer

Hunky Monster wrote: »

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

Guns are designed to kill as many people in a short time.

After the truck attacks they put up barriers to stop them. After gun attacks all you get is thoughts and prayers.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

rom wrote: »

You need a license to get a truck at least as pass some sort of test.

Do you think ISIS have the correct license for a van or a truck before they kill 30 people?

Rows Grower

rom wrote: »

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/odessa-texas-shooting/

They are saying there are two shooters.

Yeah we know because it's in the opening post.

c.p.w.g.w

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Agreed. The checks only go so far. How can you tell if someone buying a gun is mentally unstable or not?

Medical checks as part of the current checks for a start

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

IvySlayer wrote: »

Guns are designed to kill as many people in a short time.

After the truck attacks they put up barriers to stop them. After gun attacks all you get is thoughts and prayers.

Concrete barriers are akin to everyone wearing bullet proof vests. It doesn’t solve a problem. Guaranteed this is from a high powered semi automatic rifle. Nobody needs those. Gun laws need reform for sure. My point still stands though. If you get someone crazy enough they’ll kill just as many with a car as with a gun.

careless sherpa

McDermotX wrote: »

Here we go again.


If only every US citizen exercised their God-given right to be tooled up, none of this would be happening.


Or something.

If everyone would walk around in ned Kelly type outfits there would be a lot less fatalities. Would be hot in the helmets but a small price to pay

sdanseo

If the very first, early reports say 30... holy fúck what will the final toll be.

America is broken.

rom

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Do you think ISIS have the correct license for a van or a truck before they kill 30 people?

Yes :pac::pac::pac:

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Medical checks as part of the current checks for a start

Medical checks will show up nothing I’m afraid. A lot of these shooters are young white males with no criminal/mental history. You’d learn more about them from their browser history than them.

fritzelly

Barely a day goes by where someone isn't shot in the US
Pretty much inured to it at this point and so it seems are the people to prevent it
Be all forgotten about in a few days til the next one.

c.p.w.g.w

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Medical checks will show up nothing I’m afraid. A lot of these shooters are young white males with no criminal/mental history. You’d learn more about them from their browser history than them.

Haven't a few been on medication for mental illness...thus diagnosed

Pinch Flat

As long as you can get a military grade automatic weapon as easy as a toaster these tragedies will continue to happen. The American obsession with the gun is truly tragic.

IvySlayer

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Concrete barriers are akin to everyone wearing bullet proof vests. It doesn’t solve a problem. Guaranteed this is from a high powered semi automatic rifle. Nobody needs those. Gun laws need reform for sure. My point still stands though. If you get someone crazy enough they’ll kill just as many with a car as with a gun.

Glad we agree, make it much harder for these nutjobs to buy guns.

Then if they use vehicles start introducing technology/legislation to stop that and so on.

biko

It has been confirmed that the active shooter was shot and killed at the Cinergy in Odessa.

There is no active shooter at this time. All agencies are investigating reports of possible suspects,” says the Midland Texas police department.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

IvySlayer wrote: »

Glad we agree, make it much harder for these nutjobs to buy guns.

Then if they use vehicles start introducing technology/legislation to stop that and so on.

Just to be clear I am 100% pro gun. But absolutely not high powered rifles. Ideally the second amendment should be limited to handguns and hunting rifles. I believe in the right to defend yourself.

Will never happen in the US.

taytobreath

whats the best news channel for this?

BorneTobyWilde

Only 1 person dead. Mass shooting fail.
Good to see the shooter got took out, he lived a failure, and died one too.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

delminteop wrote: »

BBC, they are unbiased unlike CNN.

Unbiased my hole. Ever read bbc.co.uk? It’s like reading the VICE website.

Atlantic Dawn

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

c.p.w.g.w

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Unbiased my hole. Ever read bbc.co.uk? It’s like reading the VICE website.

Agreed...BBC has shown it's true colours with its "coverage" of Brexit

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

It’s RTE. They’ll have the story in a few hours.

Insect Overlord

delminteop wrote: »

Now we have to wait to see if this is the worst mass shooting in US history.

You seem positively aroused at the idea...

sdanseo

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

Read that article. Easily the laziest piece of journalism I've seen ever.

It is thought the fire could impact on the operation of the centre whose flagship tenants include Tesco and Marks and Spencer.

Its carpark, at least, is burnt to a damn crisp.
No **** it will be affected.

taytobreath

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

only 2 dead so far, not 30

BorneTobyWilde

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

Reports are 1 dead though. Seems this was a traffic stop gone bad. Guy was stopped, lost the plot, shot the cop, and then sped off.

IvySlayer

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Just to be clear I am 100% pro gun. But absolutely not high powered rifles. Ideally the second amendment should be limited to handguns and hunting rifles. I believe in the right to defend yourself.

Will never happen in the US.

I know if I lived in America I would probably consider buying a handgun for my protection. At least something in the house to fightcriminals. Never understand the need for an assault rifle though.

If Trump wants to go down in history as a good President, he can do something that Obama or Clinton could never do. Pass common sense gun laws. Limiting magazine sizes, gun licenses, registration. Mandatory backgrounds checks etc etc

taytobreath

Its a weekly basis this stuff is happening over there now.

BorneTobyWilde

delminteop wrote: »

...and proceeded to shoot 30-50 people?

No, just one it seems. Reports say injures to multiple people, but that those injures could be falling over trying to run away.

Only repeating what CNN are saying.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

IvySlayer wrote: »

I know if I lived in America I would probably consider buying a handgun for my protection. At least something in the house to fightcriminals. Never understand the need for an assault rifle though.

If Trump wants to go down in history as a good President, he can do something that Obama or Clinton could never do. Pass common sense gun laws. Limiting magazine sizes, gun licenses, registration. Mandatory backgrounds checks etc etc

I think if anyone can/will do it it’ll be trump. But it won’t happen before 2020, the NRA will throw millions at anyone that’ll keep the cash piling in.

Mandatory checks are in place by the way.

It will happen but it’ll happen in stages...and itll take years.

sdanseo

https://twitter.com/StevenDialFox4/status/1167932991064031238

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

delminteop wrote: »

You mean fake news CNN?

No, this is a very serious incident.

CNN/FOX it’s all fake.

Watch the extreme left, young Turks etc. and watch the extreme right, Alex Jones. Make your mind up. If you believe a specific channel ie. the BBC, RTÉ doesn’t have an agenda you’re sadly mistaken.

BorneTobyWilde

5 confirmed dead now.

StinkyMunkey

Cycle continues.

People will demand tighter gun controls, nothing will happen.

Gun nut will deny the one common denominator is the problem.

Rinse and repeat.

greencap

Hunky Monster wrote: »

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

but it just happens that near military grade weapons are a really really great way.

Atlantic Dawn

Is there an Oirish bar in the area that Joe Duffy can call on Monday to see what colour the bullets were?

bilston

bilston wrote: »

This is mental.

Why are there not tens of millions of Americans marching against their ridiculous gun laws?

would you gather in a crowd in the US to protest firearm ownership?

i wouldnt tbh

alchemist33

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.

Havent seen any reports of 30 dead yet. Where did you see it?

tuxy

Hunky Monster wrote: »

One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

True but even the Omagh bombing does not come close to the death toll of some of the more recent shootings in the U.S.
One lone gunman is more of a threat than a well equiped and organised paramity operatation!

splinter65

bilston wrote: »

This is mental.

Why are there not tens of millions of Americans marching against their ridiculous gun laws?

Part of me thinks that the horse has bolted to such an extent (or there's that many guns out there already) that changing the gun laws now wouldn't make a not of difference.

Anyway hopefully casualties are at a minimum, particularly amongst kids. All loss of life is tragic, but when government inaction leads to the needless deaths of kids then you have to wonder what the actual f*** is going on.

Tens of millions of Americans dearly want to hold on to their guns far too much to give them up.
It’s always been my point that there are far too many guns out there to do anything about it now. It’s twenty years since Columbine and successive administrations have done nothing about it every since, so it’s kinda ridiculous to lay the responsibility at the door of the current admin.
I don’t think anything can be done to be honest.

splinter65

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I think if anyone can/will do it it’ll be trump. But it won’t happen before 2020, the NRA will throw millions at anyone that’ll keep the cash piling in.

Mandatory checks are in place by the way.

It will happen but it’ll happen in stages...and itll take years.

At least 50 years. De-gunning the Americans would be the same as retraining Irish people not to make every celebration/family event into a reason to get rat arsed drunk to the point of death.