Dave Chappelle triggers the Woke Left..

biko

As soon as I saw this thread was back I knew what was posted.

I love Chapelle and the last 2/3 mins are very good of that vid.

Tony EH

Feisar wrote: »

It is funny that on boards ****** is censored while knacker is not. One can argue that knacker also refers to a trade but why is ****** censored, it has a culinary meaning as well.

Why can't I call a black person the n word? Well firstly why would I? After that though, this is an American thing going back to slavery times. Whites in America treated blacks as commodities, so that's conjured up when a white American refers to a black American as a ******. If I rock up in the Congo and call a lad I meet a ****** it's kind of pointless. At the time his ancestors were selling lads to the American's mine were starving (and not taking the soup). However due to America's culture's reach it'll probably land me in trouble.

The word "Knacker" has multiple meanings. "I was knackered".

The word "nigger" really only goes one way in the modern world and outside of an academic discussion about the word itself, it's usage is strictly limited to a verbal offence.

suicide_circus

It's almost as if Chappelle can hold two thoughts in his head simultaneously; wokeism is bad AND Trump is bad - these are not contradictory thoughts.

Tony EH

suicide_circus wrote: »

It's almost as if Chappelle can hold two thoughts in his head simultaneously; wokeism is bad AND Trump is bad - these are not contradictory thoughts.

In the world of simplistic binary thought, such things are impossible to comprehend for some people.

Feisar

Tony EH wrote: »

The word "Knacker" has multiple meanings. "I was knackered".

The word "nigger" really only goes one way in the modern world and outside of an academic discussion about the word itself, it's usage is strictly limited to a verbal offence.

Yes but why is fággot, can mean a meatball type thing and it's censored.

gmisk

Feisar wrote: »

Yes but why is fággot, can mean a meatball type thing and it's censored.

...take a wild guess?
Do you think a lot of people still eat those?
Use it as an insult to mean a meatball? Come on let's not play silly games here.

lemonTrees

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, it is a bit ridiculous that Black people can call each other the N word without offense, but anyone else who does it is a racist. It should be the manner in which the word is used rather than the word itself.

And honestly, Liberals have been pushing their sensitivity down the throats of everyone for ages, they deserve some offence directed their way. The US has become incredibly PC, it's not comparable to Ireland or Europe (yet)

You can't even call black people blacks anymore according to woke liberals.

McHardcore

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

That was awful stuff compared with his specials. Couple of laughs here and there but generally lazy stuff.

The whole white people thing is getting old now.

What made Chappelle worthy of being called a genius for a very long time was that there was always a nugget of truth in his observations when the laughter died down. Never did 'Funny cause it's true' apply more to a comedian than it did with him.

These days though? Not so much.

Oh come on. He was funny "triggering the Woke left" but not when he started making jokes about Trump? From his latest SNL monologue:

“Helicopter took him to Walter Reed Hospital.... Team of doctors waiting for him, doctors came around, gave him experimental medicine and stuff. Flew him back home in the helicopter .... Then walked right in the house, killed four more people. I said, ‘$750.50 in taxes goes a long way, doesn’t it, sir?’”

Thats hilarious, and has a "nugget of truth" in it too.

Tony EH

Feisar wrote: »

Yes but why is fággot, can mean a meatball type thing and it's censored.

Now you're just moving the goalposts.

You asked about a specific word. You got your answer (though you already knew why it is censored). But I'm really not interested in a rabbit hole of what about this/what about that, because if you really want to get around the censorship of a particular word, it isn't that hard.

If you have a problem with any word being censored, take it up with the owners of the website.

Feisar

Tony EH wrote: »

Now you're just moving the goalposts.

You asked about a specific word. You got your answer (though you already knew why it is censored). But I'm really not interested in a rabbit hole of what about this/what about that, because if you really want to get around the censorship of a particular word, it isn't that hard.

If you have a problem with any word being censored, take it up with the owners of the website.

Actually, I had fággot in my original. Why would have mentioned culinary otherwise.

Feisar

gmisk wrote: »

...take a wild guess?
Do you think a lot of people still eat those?
Use it as an insult to mean a meatball? Come on let's not play silly games here.

Fair point, I'm only splitting hairs for the sake of it.

gmisk

Feisar wrote: »

Fair point, I'm only splitting hairs for the sake of it.

Well don't, it's extremely unpleasant.
I am guessing if you had experienced being called that word you wouldn't take how it can be used as a horrible insult so lightly.

One eyed Jack

Feisar wrote: »

Yes but why is fággot, can mean a meatball type thing and it's censored.

Dave Chapelle has a good point about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFLcuA5CRg

iebamm2580

Would it be ok for Ricky Gervais to start laughing at how covid reduced black youths stabbing each other in London during covid?

iebamm2580

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would it be ok for Ricky Gervais to start laughing at how covid reduced black youths stabbing each other in London during covid?

Depends how he delivers it

Baggly

Mod

Feisar, feedback can go to the Feedback Forum or Help Desk Forum as appropriate. Its off topic here.

iebamm2580

Deleted User wrote: »

Depends how he delivers it

yeah i can agree to that but i reckon a lot of the "woke" left would think its only ok to joke about white people, if it goes one way it should go the other, i do feel white people just shouldnt use the n- word though.

Eric Cartman

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would it be ok for Ricky Gervais to start laughing at how covid reduced black youths stabbing each other in London during covid?

in my head - yes, in a tv producers head - no.

lemonTrees

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would it be ok for Ricky Gervais to start laughing at how covid reduced black youths stabbing each other in London during covid?

Would be career suicide.

iebamm2580

lemonTrees wrote: »

Would be career suicide.

like it should be for Chapelle, its the hypocrisy of it all that gets me.

One eyed Jack

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would it be ok for Ricky Gervais to start laughing at how covid reduced black youths stabbing each other in London during covid?

Of course it would, and he’d be celebrated for it too, being the “edgelord” that he is -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg

At least Chapelle does clever satire that’s actually risky.

iebamm2580

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Of course it would, and he’d be celebrated for it too, being the “edgelord” that he is -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg

At least Chapelle does clever satire that’s actually risky.

dont think it would go down the same way tbh, the media would be calling for his head.

One eyed Jack

iebamm2580 wrote: »

dont think it would go down the same way tbh, the media would be calling for his head.

They wouldn’t, Ricky Gervais is loved by the Hollywood set, because his jokes are perfectly safe. There’s nothing risqué about his act. He’s just playing to a safe crowd of like-minded people, just the same as himself.

Dave Chapelle on the other hand, is responsible for some of the greatest characters in satirical comedy, like Clayton Bigsby -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ

iebamm2580

One eyed Jack wrote: »

They wouldn’t, Ricky Gervais is loved by the Hollywood set, because his jokes are perfectly safe. There’s nothing risqué about his act. He’s just playing to a safe crowd of like-minded people, just the same as himself.

Dave Chapelle on the other hand, is responsible for some of the greatest characters in satirical comedy, like Clayton Bigsby -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ

dont think you are understanding my point, if he was to say something about black people that would be considered very risque and not safe at all in todays world.

One eyed Jack

iebamm2580 wrote: »

dont think you are understanding my point, if he was to say something about black people that would be considered very risque and not safe at all in todays world.

I do understand your point, that’s why I’m pointing out that nobody would bat an eyelid if Ricky Gervais made a joke about black people, because he’s practically a protected species, one of the intelligentsia, the left liberals appear to be under the impression the prick could walk on water. He could parrot Donald Trump and say he could shoot someone and the Hollywood elite would still protect him.

The same could not be said of Dave Chapelle, who built his career on tackling stereotypes and showing people how stupid they actually are. He walked away from a $50m deal with the network, while Ricky Gervais claims he doesn’t care if he doesn’t host the Oscars. He knows well that as a protected species, he will never actually have to care.

iebamm2580

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I do understand your point, that’s why I’m pointing out that nobody would bat an eyelid if Ricky Gervais made a joke about black people, because he’s practically a protected species, one of the intelligentsia, the left liberals appear to be under the impression the prick could walk on water. He could parrot Donald Trump and say he could shoot someone and the Hollywood elite would still protect him.

The same could not be said of Dave Chapelle, who built his career on tackling stereotypes and showing people how stupid they actually are. He walked away from a $50m deal with the network, while Ricky Gervais claims he doesn’t care if he doesn’t host the Oscars. He knows well that as a protected species, he will never actually have to care.

i get you but i think joking about black people not stabbing during covid ala Chappelle and white terrorists would not do down aswell, we will agree to disagree so.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

iebamm2580 wrote: »

yeah i can agree to that but i reckon a lot of the "woke" left would think its only ok to joke about white people, if it goes one way it should go the other, i do feel white people just shouldnt use the n- word though.

Whats the n-word?

iebamm2580

Chelsea Greasy Headache wrote: »

Whats the n-word?

google is your friend.

James Brown

biko wrote: »

As soon as I saw this thread was back I knew what was posted.

I love Chapelle and the last 2/3 mins are very good of that vid.

If he had of stuck to making light of the same things they would have loved it but he took aim at white privilege, Trump and they got 'triggered' I guess.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

SNL after election was called

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_VvR_WqNs

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

That was awful stuff compared with his specials. Couple of laughs here and there but generally lazy stuff.

The whole white people thing is getting old now.

What made Chappelle worthy of being called a genius for a very long time was that there was always a nugget of truth in his observations when the laughter died down. Never did 'Funny cause it's true' apply more to a comedian than it did with him.

These days though? Not so much.

Dave Chappelle Triggers The Woke Right?

vojiwox

Bowie wrote: »

If he had of stuck to making light of the same things they would have loved it but he took aim at white privilege, Trump and they got 'triggered' I guess.

Yes I watched it and thought.. the guys who like hearing it like it is, won't like hearing this!

Overheal

biko wrote: »

As soon as I saw this thread was back I knew what was posted.

I love Chapelle and the last 2/3 mins are very good of that vid.

Some of the sketches were the best of the season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLuGVOWlkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWR1wimuQic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au99vdcH_uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsD7ygbFeY

Comedy is very subjective... SNL is awful

DavidLyons_

https://news.sky.com/story/dave-chappelle-attacked-on-stage-during-stand-up-netflix-show-at-the-hollywood-bowl-12605098

No putting the lid back on this can of worms. Some will just think it's open season on comedians now if they say something that they don't agree with.

Pathetic.

drunkmonkey

He should do a double act with the Diceman and make their heads explode.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013263#Comment_119013263

Will Smith has a lot to answer for.

Sonics2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013392#Comment_119013392

I mean, it's funny to blame Will Smith because he lost his mind, but he's nowhere near the first person to attack a comedian on stage.

Captain Barnacles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013424#Comment_119013424

Maybe not, but he has normalised it and made it "okay" for a lot of people.

The MSM cheering it on won't help things either.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013755#Comment_119013755

Shouldn"t happen but comedians being attacked on stage isn't new. Billy Connolly even made the fact he was attacked by a audience member a part of his act. Not that he wasn't capable of throwing the odd punch himself.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013424#Comment_119013424

Ah, but what was the fitting punishment for Smith? Sort of puts a precedent in place for new wannabes.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013755#Comment_119013755

I don't think he normalised it or made it okay. The backlash to what he did was pretty huge and that was largely led by the mainstream media, who were not "cheering it on" (but feel free to provide examples). Pretty much everybody rightfully condemned Will Smith for what he did, and were calling out not just Smith but also the Academy for not removing him immediately after.

I think there's been a growing shift (quite a damaging one) in a lot of people, pre-pandemic to a degree but especially post-pandemic, where people have taken on this idea that if something isn't as they want it, everyone else is wrong and therefore they're completely justified in however they choose to act. There are constantly clips of people screaming at or attacking the likes of airline staff, fast-food staff, even just random people on the street who might be doing something that just ever so slightly annoys someone.

There's a shift from personal responsibility to righteous fury. It's not unique to people at standup shows, it's permeating throughout society, in America particularly.

Will Smith's actions didn't normalise it or make it okay. It's just another example of what's been happening and building for several years imo.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119013392#Comment_119013392

Yeah, "After Earth" was a sh1te film.

Boggles

Jaysus the attackers arm is at some angle.

Silly rabbit.

Penn

Chappelle was doing a show last night and talked about the attack. He said he spoke with the attacker afterwards.

Chappelle also spoke about convincing the cops to let him speak with Lee, who was detained after the incident. When the comedian asked Lee what prompted the attack, Lee reportedly told him it was because his grandmother was being forced out of her Brooklyn neighborhood because of gentrification, and he hoped to draw attention to her story.

The guy's brother also said he has a history of mental illness and may have been off his meds.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/dave-chappelle-attack-chris-rock-comedy-set-1349157/

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Attacking comedians seems to be all the rage these days - I blame Putin.

Overheal

Welcome back to this sideshow.

Rumors are that SNL writers are boycotting the upcoming Dave Chapelle episode. Chapelle last hosted 2 years ago (Nov 8 2020) and had some great sketches like “Uncle Ben” but has since expanded his public thoughts on TERFdom etc and divided more folks.

Heres the scoop-lite: Chapelle spokespersons deny this is happening and say they were pitched 40 sketches, but when NBC was reached out for comment, they flatly refused to comment.

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/chappelle-reps-deny-snl-writer-boycott-of-dave-chappelle-episode-over-his-years-of-mocking-trans-people-nbc-is-a-no-comment/

Probably the half truth is that some but not all writers have boycotted.

I imagine whatever his monologue is will mark the next pivot point in the Dave Chappelle narrative. Airs tomorrow night.

AllForIt

SNL writers object to satire?

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119024440#Comment_119024440

Off your meds should not be an excuse. Its trotted out constantly in defence of attacks. If I go off my meds I wont attack anyone.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119864221#Comment_119864221

Ye…

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119864221#Comment_119864221

Depends what the meds are.