F1 2019 - Round 13 Belgium

Harika

Very boring weather prediction until the weekend.

Live on Sky

Sessions
Friday – 10:00 to 11:30 – Practice 1
Friday – 14:00 to 15:30 – Practice 2
Saturday – 11:00 to 12:00 – Practice 3
Saturday – 13:00 to 14:00 – Qualifying
Sunday – 14:10 to 16:10 – Race

H3llR4iser

Raikkonen might skip friday practice due to a pulled muscle during training. Ericsson on stand-by to fill in if necessary.

When asked about what the problem is during the media conference, he gave a classic, epic Kimi answer:

""Sport. Injuries. Getting old."

supremenovice

With a chance of rain on Sunday, I threw a fiver on Russell to get a point at 66/1.
Wouldnt be right if Kubica got a point and he didnt by year end.

weekaizer

supremenovice wrote: »

With a chance of rain on Sunday, I threw a fiver on Russell to get a point at 66/1.
Wouldnt be right if Kubica got a point and he didnt by year end.

One thing that may annoy Russell is that even if he does score a point in one of the remaining races, kubica will still be classified ahead of him as he scored his point earlier in season!.

pjohnson

Kimi plans to do FP1 and will evaluate if he can continue with the weekend after that. Ericsson is on standby for FP2 onwards.

Norris has, as expected, recovered from his own injury in time. Sirotkin isnt required to replace him this weekend

Joeface

Interesting enough FP1 , Team Red well clear and Team Blue reasonable clear of Team silver .
I suppose its good to see Force india up the top tier for a race.
Lot of teams taking penalties this weekend as well.

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m44.574s - 20
2 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m44.788s 0.214s 20
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m45.507s 0.933s 18
4 Alexander Albon Red Bull/Honda 1m45.584s 1.010s 19
5 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m45.882s 1.308s 25
6 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m45.973s 1.399s 16
7 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1m46.198s 1.624s 16
8 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1m46.426s 1.852s 23
9 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1m46.433s 1.859s 22
10 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1m46.557s 1.983s 20
11 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1m46.669s 2.095s 23
12 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1m46.670s 2.096s 19
13 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m47.024s 2.450s 20
14 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 1m47.176s 2.602s 18
15 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m47.333s 2.759s 22
16 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m47.488s 2.914s 21
17 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.636s 3.062s 20
18 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.968s 3.394s 26
19 Nicholas Latifi Williams/Mercedes 1m48.784s 4.210s 24
20 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m48.966s 4.392s 24

skipper_G

weekaizer wrote: »

One thing that may annoy Russell is that even if he does score a point in one of the remaining races, kubica will still be classified ahead of him as he scored his point earlier in season!.

That's not how it works, they work on count backs if two drivers are tied on points. So if Russell managed to score a point somehow he would be ahead on account of his 11th place finish in Germany

weekaizer

skipper_G wrote: »

That's not how it works, they work on count backs if two drivers are tied on points. So if Russell managed to score a point somehow he would be ahead on account of his 11th place finish in Germany

You are correct. I’m thinking of quail lap times.

AMKC

pjohnson wrote: »

Kimi plans to do FP1 and will evaluate if he can continue with the weekend after that. Ericsson is on standby for FP2 onwards.

Norris has, as expected, recovered from his own injury in time. Sirotkin isnt required to replace him this weekend

Delighted to here that. He is young so should have quick recovery times.

As for Kimi maybe it is time he started thinking about retiring now. Maybe Alfa will have a whole new driver line up next year.

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Raikkonen might skip friday practice due to a pulled muscle during training. Ericsson on stand-by to fill in if necessary.

When asked about what the problem is during the media conference, he gave a classic, epic Kimi answer:

""Sport. Injuries. Getting old."

Is it time for Alfa to start thinking about what two drivers they will have for next year? As Kimi might retire and Giovinazzi might get dropped.

Joeface wrote: »

Interesting enough FP1 , Team Red well clear and Team Blue reasonable clear of Team silver .
I suppose its good to see Force india up the top tier for a race.
Lot of teams taking penalties this weekend as well.

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m44.574s - 20
2 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m44.788s 0.214s 20
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m45.507s 0.933s 18
4 Alexander Albon Red Bull/Honda 1m45.584s 1.010s 19
5 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m45.882s 1.308s 25
6 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m45.973s 1.399s 16
7 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1m46.198s 1.624s 16
8 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1m46.426s 1.852s 23
9 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1m46.433s 1.859s 22
10 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1m46.557s 1.983s 20
11 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1m46.669s 2.095s 23
12 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1m46.670s 2.096s 19
13 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m47.024s 2.450s 20
14 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 1m47.176s 2.602s 18
15 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m47.333s 2.759s 22
16 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m47.488s 2.914s 21
17 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.636s 3.062s 20
18 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.968s 3.394s 26
19 Nicholas Latifi Williams/Mercedes 1m48.784s 4.210s 24
20 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m48.966s 4.392s 24

When I seen Team Red my first thought was Red Bull but then I seen the table and went Awe Ferrari. So same as every FP1 session then. Come Qualifying Mercedes will be back on top. Would be great to see Ferrari or Red Bull there instead do.

AMKC

I see FP2 is going to be live on You-Tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlBn6KkYjok

Still no highlights for FP1 yet do.

Joeface

AMKC wrote: »

When I seen Team Red my first thought was Red Bull but then I seen the table and went Awe Ferrari. So same as every FP1 session then. Come Qualifying Mercedes will be back on top. Would be great to see Ferrari or Red Bull there instead do.

Ha , sorry I realise now that it is a bit confusing ...that maybe because I actually managed to stay away from F1 for the entire break and I could only remember team Colours

elperello

Watching Sky earlier I spotted David Coulthard in the background chatting to a mechanic. Putting in the leg work for the C4 coverage.
It's not all champagne and canapes.

Jordan 199

vectra

AMKC wrote: »

Delighted to here that. He is young so should have quick recovery times.

As for Kimi maybe it is time he started thinking about retiring now. Maybe Alfa will have a whole new driver line up next year.


Is it time for Alfa to start thinking about what two drivers they will have for next year? As Kimi might retire and Giovinazzi might get dropped.

Where are people getting the notion Kimi might retire or could be finished this season?

antodeco

Jordan 199 wrote: »

I like the way they put in a small musical keyboard, just in case!

Jordan 199

antodeco wrote: »

I like the way they put in a small musical keyboard, just in case!

Well done sir, well done.

AMKC

vectra wrote: »

Where are people getting the notion Kimi might retire or could be finished this season?

From this \/.
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When asked about what the problem is during the media conference, he gave a classic, epic Kimi answer:

""Sport. Injuries. Getting old.''

As I said even Kimi has said it. He is getting old.

skipper_G

Joeface wrote: »

Interesting enough FP1 , Team Red well clear and Team Blue reasonable clear of Team silver .
I suppose its good to see Force india up the top tier for a race.
Lot of teams taking penalties this weekend as well.

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m45.507s 0.933s 18
4 Alexander Albon Red Bull/Honda 1m45.584s 1.010s 19
17 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.636s 3.062s 20
18 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso/Honda 1m47.968s 3.394s 26
19 Nicholas Latifi Williams/Mercedes 1m48.784s 4.210s 24
20 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m48.966s 4.392s 24

A few things jump out from the FP1 times, Albon within a tenth of Verstappen on his first time in the car. Meanwhile Gasly 3 tenths off Kvyat…. the change begins to make even more sense. And Kubica 2 tenths slower than Latifi, only way Kubica keeps the drive next season is if his sponsors find more millions.

Frank Bullitt

This looks like Ferraris to lose...watch them go and lose it.

vectra

AMKC wrote: »

From this \/.
\/
When asked about what the problem is during the media conference, he gave a classic, epic Kimi answer:

""Sport. Injuries. Getting old.''

As I said even Kimi has said it. He is getting old.

Well,
That doesn't take rocket science to figure he is getting old,
Where did the finishing or leaving this season come from is what I am wondering?

chicorytip

skipper_G wrote: »

A few things jump out from the FP1 times, Albon within a tenth of Verstappen on his first time in the car. Meanwhile Gasly 3 tenths off Kvyat…. the change begins to make even more sense. And Kubica 2 tenths slower than Latifi, only way Kubica keeps the drive next season is if his sponsors find more millions.

Hamilton playing his usual game claiming Merc are miles off the pace tops qualifying and wins the race. Verstappen to qualify at least three tenths ahead of Albon.Leave Kubica in situ next year. Russell still almost two seconds behind the car in front despite running the new Merc engine. The new aero "upgrades" are clearly not working.

Joeface

Ooooh Lewis crashed out of FP3 , bit of strange one but did hit the barrier reasonably Hard

Cool_CM

Joeface wrote: »

Ooooh Lewis crashed out of FP3 , bit of strange one but did hit the barrier reasonably Hard

Big of a repair job on that given the angle!

antodeco

That was quite an impact. I'd say they could struggle for qualifying. I'd see a penalty of some sort because something will have to have broken in that car!

skipper_G

Mercedes may be sandbagging a bit but Ferrari seem to have the quickest car. Ah well not to worry, I'm sure they'll find a way to cock up the weekend somehow

Itssoeasy

Just watching the coverage on sky and that front of Hamilton’s car looked like it took a heavy shunt.

Itssoeasy

Just watching the coverage on sky and that front of Hamilton’s car looked like it took a heavy shunt.

Inviere

What struck me was Lewis didn't let go of the steering wheel, which is odd. He clearly passed the point of no return in the crash, but held onto the wheel.

Cool_CM

Jaysus, two Mercedes engines go up this weekend

That's a proper mid-late 90s blowout

Inviere

2nd separate Merc Spec 3 engine up in smoke? This is going to be an issue I feel...

wally1990

Fire in the hole!!!

flazio

"looks like we won't have Lewis' car ready before the end of Q1, blow up a Williams to give us more time."

Cool_CM

Something up in LeClerc's car?

Edit: nope!

Cool_CM

Jaysus, another red flag. Engine blow for Giovinazzi

Jordan 199

Oh? That's a bit of a blow.

Faugheen

Giovanazzi had looked quick today as well.

Inviere

3rd car up in smoke? Mad Ted.

Faugheen

All from new spec engines as well.

I don’t think Ferrari will have the new spec in until Monza so they should be ok.

flazio

Faugheen wrote: »

All from new spec engines as well.

I don’t think Ferrari will have the new spec in until Monza so they should be ok.

Are you saying the Alfa has a newer spec then the works team?

Faugheen

flazio wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

All from new spec engines as well.

I don’t think Ferrari will have the new spec in until Monza so they should be ok.

Are you saying the Alfa has a newer spec then the works team?

I thought that’s what I heard but on reflection that might have been Haas they were talking about.

flazio

I thought Giovinazzi was about to drive the low loader before remembering it's left hand drive over there.

Cool_CM

flazio wrote: »

Are you saying the Alfa has a newer spec then the works team?

Yup, Ferrari aren't running it until next weekend, but Haas and Alfa ran it yesterday.

Looking to keep the milage down apparently

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/145678/ferrari-explains-why-it-didnt-take-new-engine

skipper_G

That was all very scruffy stuff on the warm up there. Drivers tripping over each other all over the place

flazio

Good man Tim, doing the O'Glocks proud on the grid.

Cool_CM

Jesus, huge crash in F2. Race red flagged and cancelled - hope everybody is ok

skipper_G

Cool_CM wrote: »

Jesus, huge crash in F2. Race red flagged and cancelled - hope everybody is ok

That was a terrifying accident. I think the arden was ripped in half. I hope that's not what it looked like

JPF82

Cool_CM wrote: »

Jesus, huge crash in F2. Race red flagged and cancelled - hope everybody is ok

It was horrendous. Could see the feet of the driver in the upside down car as it slid up the track. Hubert's car split in two after he hit the wall and came back across the track and got T-boned by the white car. That was the driver whose feet I could see.

podmu80

Cool_CM wrote: »

Jesus, huge crash in F2. Race red flagged and cancelled - hope everybody is ok

JPF82 wrote: »

It was horrendous. Could see the feet of the driver in the upside down car as it slid up the track. Hubert's car split in two after he hit the wall and came back across the track and got T-boned by the white car. That was the driver whose feet I could see.

Horrific. Reminded me of the Alex zanardi accident in 2001.

doubledown

Sadly the FIA have confirmed that Anthoine Hubert has died as a result of the crash.

skipper_G

doubledown wrote: »

Sadly the FIA have confirmed that Antoine Hubert has died as a result of the crash.

Just saw the confirmation, horrific news. RIP

Cool_CM

That's horrible - poor guy.