Emergency vehicle used to pick up family

mea_k

Hi.
I work with girl who father drives fire truck. Girl is 19 and it wa 6pm on sunny evening and no she was not sick or remotely in danger.
Her father picked her up with blue lights and all
Just wondering is it normal practise for emergency vehicles?
Can they be used to pick family up and braught home?

Graces7

mea_k wrote: »

Hi.
I work with girl who father drives fire truck. Girl is 19 and it wa 6pm on sunny evening and no she was not sick or remotely in danger.
Her father picked her up with blue lights and all
Just wondering is it normal practise for emergency vehicles?
Can they be used to pick family up and braught home?

Your concern is???

Not sure of the legality but it certainly happens a lot.

I'll be following this thread to get an answer from the legal hawks.

mea_k

Graces7 wrote: »

Your concern is???

One truck out of one is used to pick up member? Petrol / diesel used that is funded by council?
But I guess its normal so. Just thought I'll ask.

arybvtcw0eolkf

mea_k wrote: »

Hi.
I work with girl who father drives fire truck. Girl is 19 and it wa 6pm on sunny evening and no she was not sick or remotely in danger.
Her father picked her up with blue lights and all
Just wondering is it normal practise for emergency vehicles?
Can they be used to pick family up and braught home?

Completely normal for the emergency services to avail of such perks.

I'm a soldier and used to drop my kids off to school in my tank, on Halloween I'd even let them fire the main gun.

Juanito13

mea_k wrote: »

One truck out of one is used to pick up member? Petrol / diesel used that is funded by council?
But I guess its normal so. Just thought I'll ask.

Was it a fire appliance or some sort of support vehicle? Jeep/van.

branie2

If it happens, it happens

rizzodun

Maybe she's a volunteer and he was grabbing her on the way to a call...

Graces7

mea_k wrote: »

One truck out of one is used to pick up member? Petrol / diesel used that is funded by council?
But I guess its normal so. Just thought I'll ask.

He is on the road, has radio contact, is available for a shout. Were he to use his car ? He is doing the responsible thing.

I am tempted to say MYOB.

Gregor Samsa

My dad tried to do the same once. But he drove a hearse, and was blaring the Last Post with a bugle, so I hid in the jacks until he left. That was the longest day I spend in kindergarten.

Allinall

Did this happen in Nenagh?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's done but it's also, officially, not permitted for many reasons - insurance, vehicle may get a call etc.

I know an ambulance driver who did the same, even using the lights to get home for lunch. On complaints being made, he was suspended for a period.

whisky_galore

You're jealous OP, who wouldn't want to be picked up by fire truck?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

whisky_galore wrote: »

You're jealous OP, who wouldn't want to be picked up by fire truck?

Prefer a rescue helicopter, if the offer's still on...

Graces7

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Prefer a rescue helicopter, if the offer's still on...

Yearning! Preferably to take me to the top of Croagh Patrick....we have a helipad here...

_Brian

Hell of a cool dad.

OP, eyes front and mind your own business.

mea_k

whisky_galore wrote: »

You're jealous OP, who wouldn't want to be picked up by fire truck?

Why jealousy has to come in to this. I enquired about something I don't feel is ethical. I wouldn't abuse my work vehicle for my own perks and just wanted to know is it legal. So this is why i asked.
The fact you could find in my question some sort of jealous remark is just strange. Plain simple question.

not yet

mea_k wrote: »

Hi.
I work with girl who father drives fire truck. Girl is 19 and it wa 6pm on sunny evening and no she was not sick or remotely in danger.
Her father picked her up with blue lights and all
Just wondering is it normal practise for emergency vehicles?
Can they be used to pick family up and braught home?

So many questions..

So few answers.

My advice would be.... GET A LIFE.

Car99

Why these days is the internet forum the first port of call for anyone looking for an answer to a question that can't be answered without more facts being known?

OP you know how to contact the person in charge of the local fire station to get an answer to your question why not contact them? If you don't want to cause any trouble or think it's not worth the call why post on here about it?

Edgware

My da collected us in the cattle lorry every Friday after the mart.

Raconteuse

Graces7 wrote: »

Your concern is???

Graces7 wrote: »

I am tempted to say MYOB.

_Brian wrote: »

OP, eyes front and mind your own business.

not yet wrote: »

My advice would be.... GET A LIFE.

When someone simply asks a question, show a bit of restraint instead of becoming so defensive/hostile immediately.

whisky_galore

mea_k wrote: »

Why jealousy has to come in to this. I enquired about something I don't feel is ethical. I wouldn't abuse my work vehicle for my own perks and just wanted to know is it legal. So this is why i asked.
The fact you could find in my question some sort of jealous remark is just strange. Plain simple question.

You're new here, aren't you?

Write a strongly worded letter to the fire putting out people.

Ursus Horribilis

Braught?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Car99 wrote: »

Why these days is the internet forum the first port of call for anyone looking for an answer to a question that can't be answered without more facts being known?

OP you know how to contact the person in charge of the local fire station to get an answer to your question why not contact them? If you don't want to cause any trouble or think it's not worth the call why post on here about it?

Discussion forum innit.

I’m interested in the legality of this as well.

Force Carrier

How did the Fire Truck even get here from America?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Raconteuse wrote: »

When someone simply asks a question, show a bit of restraint instead of becoming so defensive/hostile immediately.

Seems a bit defensive alright. It’s perfectly legit to ask the legality or morals as to how publically funded vechicles are used (if that’s the case here).

padd b1975

Nikolas Hallowed Shyness wrote: »

Completely normal for the emergency services to avail of such perks.

I'm a soldier and used to drop my kids off to school in my tank, on Halloween I'd even let them fire the main gun.

I didn't know the irish army had any tanks.

Forty Seven

After watching the absolute piss taking abuse of the ambulance service a few years ago this shouldn't really surprise anyone.

It's only taxes, not like they should be put to proper use or anything.

Gregor Samsa

It’s such an American thing to be always on guard about every little detail regarding how public money is being used. The general Irish attitude is to be a bit more relaxed about things and appreciate that not everything has to be done by the book. But unfortunately we’re being more and more influenced by US culture all the time, where they care about the price of everything but the value of nothing. It won’t be long before we have people banging on about their “tax dollars”, “pocket books” and “401Ks” over here. I was going to add “fire truck” to the list, but it seems we’re already past that.

Abba987

I don't see a problem with using the truck but the blue lights is a problem. They are only meant to be used in genuine emergencies and I would imagine he would get in trouble if caught doing this or in an accident .

greencap

phutyle wrote: »

It’s such an American thing to be always on guard about every little detail regarding how public money is being used. The general Irish attitude is to be a bit more relaxed about things and appreciate that not everything has to be done by the book. But unfortunately we’re being more and more influenced by US culture all the time, where they care about the price of everything but the value of nothing. It won’t be long before we have people banging on about their “tax dollars”, “pocket books” and “401Ks” over here. I was going to add “fire truck” to the list, but it seems we’re already past that.

You'll probably find its kind of a German thing too.

And French.
And Japanese.
And British.
And Swiss.

Although its probably cool to do in Liberia, Libya, Bangladesh. ... and Ireland of course.

dxhound2005

greencap wrote: »

You'll probably find its kind of a German thing too.

And French.
And Japanese.
And British.
And Swiss.

Although its probably cool to do in Liberia, Libya, Bangladesh. ... and Ireland of course.

Seeing what some French firemen get up to, I wouldn't be so sure of their high standards.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/05/firefighters-accused-of-gang-rape-in-paris

Irish Guitarist

The answer might be here somewhere if you feel like reading through a load of legalese. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1981/act/30/enacted/en/html

freshpopcorn

I know sometimes if a fire engine was returning from a call, getting water, training, etc.
They might call in to see relatives/kids on it or they were passing somebody who needed collecting they'd probably pick them up.

punisher5112

The wife got dropped home in a Garda car after night out..... Yes it's a waste in a way but then again so is taking up a cell or hospital bed when home was the best place for her... Few too many fizzies.....

All I know is that if one of my parents had access to a Nee-Naw when I was a kid and didn't pick me up in it, sirens wailing, I would have never forgiven them.

Mrs OBumble

It's theft of publically funded petrol/diesel. And potentially of staff time.

Also hell of a risky if a call came in or there was an accident. Seriously poor judgement on the part of the employee.

punisher5112

Who honestly gives a fluck though.....

They weren't driving dangerously and to be honest I think it's a good thing especially for the kids to see them out and that they are normal people and can be cool.


Kids love lights and sirens and especially seeing the fire trucks....

Look at all the good work they do and the people they save ...

I say be more peed off with the scum attacking them and others and those scum bags that make everyone else's life hell

Muahahaha

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's theft of publically funded petrol/diesel. And potentially of staff time.

Also hell of a risky if a call came in or there was an accident. Seriously poor judgement on the part of the employee.

Agreed, its a fire brigade and time is of the essence with fires and getting people out of a building. It might be a small risk but if it was the far side of town and a fire breaks out there would be serious trouble.

tayto lover

mea_k wrote: »

One truck out of one is used to pick up member? Petrol / diesel used that is funded by council?
But I guess its normal so. Just thought I'll ask.

My uncle used to drive a fire brigade.
If he got a hoax call he'd just start a small fire in the garden of that house so as to make the call out worthwhile.

Gregor Samsa

Muahahaha wrote: »

Agreed, its a fire brigade and time is of the essence with fires and getting people out of a building. It might be a small risk but if it was the far side of town and a fire breaks out there would be serious trouble.

On the other hand, if a fire broke out just beside where the girl they were picking up worked, maybe they’d get a medal.

andekwarhola

This has confirmed my suspicion that I'm a tier 2 dad.

One day I will pull up to school in a fire engine.

One day

Mrs OBumble

phutyle wrote: »

On the other hand, if a fire broke out just beside where the girl they were picking up worked, maybe they’d get a medal.

Nope. Not unless a whole crew had gone along for the trip.

A truck with just a driver is very little use.

If a call came in, he's have to go back to the station to pick up the team, and then head to the incident.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Nope. Not unless a whole crew had gone along for the trip.

A truck with just a driver is very little use.

If a call came in, he's have to go back to the station to pick up the team, and then head to the incident.

That makes it a bit more serious.

ILoveYourVibes

Originally Posted by Mrs OBumble
Nope. Not unless a whole crew had gone along for the trip.

A truck with just a driver is very little use.

If a call came in, he's have to go back to the station to pick up the team, and then head to the incident.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

that makes it a bit more serious.

It could be a retired truck. Or one not in use at that moment.

sdanseo

Was it definitely a fire truck / fire engine as opposed to a Land Rover / 4x4?

I don't know of a firefighter in the country who takes a fire engine home with them. On the other hand, there are plenty of fire officers who are issued a marked car for their personal use.
There are two in my estate alone (one fire, one civil defence). One is a beast of a thing, Land Rover defender, the other is a Ford Ranger.

Not 100% on the insurance side of things but I imagine it would be perfectly normal for family to be carted around in these when off duty.

wiggle16

Now I know you say she was not sick or in any danger, but is it possible she was on fire and no one noticed?

SmartinMartin

wiggle16 wrote: »

Now I know you say she was not sick or in any danger, but is it possible she was on fire and no one noticed?

Now THAT was fcukin funny..

punisher5112

wiggle16 wrote: »

Now I know you say she was not sick or in any danger, but is it possible she was on fire and no one noticed?

That's very possible as there are occasions where fuel burns aren't detected till it's too late.

cj maxx

Maybe he was just giving her a thrill putting the sirens on. I know being brought by ambulance when as a child I was chuffed when he put the siren on through Dublin . I was about 3 though .

Peregrine

After watching that RTÉ documentary about the widespread abuse of response vehicles by managers in the HSE, I wondered why so many people around them didn't say anything and why the response to the revelations was so weak. Now I know why. 'Mind your own business' seems to be the attitude of a lot of people. We don't want to be like the US, do we?

https://www.thejournal.ie/prime-time-ambulance-1385415-Mar2014/
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/ambulance-bosses-who-use-emergency-3466803

I sincerely hope none of you ever need an emergency response vehicle while it's being used to pick up the kids or parked up in the driveway. Unfortunately, others did.