RIP David Koch

nkl12xtw5goz70

David Koch, the younger of the Koch brothers, died today aged 79.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/billionaire-david-koch-who-spent-heavily-to-back-conservative-causes-dies-11566563837

Guy:Incognito

https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/charles-koch-the-luke-skywalker-of-rich-people.htm

That ones about Charles but David gets plenty of mentions iirc. Plus they come up plenty in other episodes.

Robert Evans is not a fan

KyussB

Funny, I just came here for the first time in a while, to see if there was a thread on this.

A day for celebration - haven't been so delighted at someones death since Thatcher died. One of the leading propagandists who helped delay the fight against climate change, dead.

PopePalpatine

The White House's flags will be at half-mast.

Yer Da sells Avon

Climate change ain't got nothin' on where he's going.

Pure evil. Good riddance to him.

Brian?

Angela Melodic Mullet wrote: »

David Koch, the younger of the Koch brothers, died today aged 79.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/billionaire-david-koch-who-spent-heavily-to-back-conservative-causes-dies-11566563837

Honest question. If there is a heaven, do you think he qualified to rest in peace there?

NoteAgent

Whatever his views, he still employed hundreds of thousands of people.
If he was poor and he held these views you wouldnt care as much I bet LMAO

endacl

NoteAgent wrote: »

Whatever his viLMA, he still employed hundreds of thousands of people.
If he was poor and he held these views you wouldnt care as much I bet LMAO

If he was poor and held those views, he wouldn’t have been in a position to influence policy. He’d just have been a cnut nobody hsd heard of.

batgoat

NoteAgent wrote: »

Whatever his viLMA, he still employed hundreds of thousands of people.
If he was poor and he held these views you wouldnt care as much I bet LMAO

He used his wealth in an incredibly negative way. A poor person doesn't have that power so it's unlikely to make it onto any person's radar.

Yer Da sells Avon

NoteAgent wrote: »

Whatever his views, he still employed hundreds of thousands of people.

That's not a get out of hell card.

McMurphy

He was a right grade A koch.

NoteAgent

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

That's not a get out of hell card.

So putting food on all these peoples tables doesnt count for anything?

Its awful what he did to politics but still

BDI

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

That's not a get out of hell card.

You want to put him in jail?

He bluppin dead!

ancapailldorcha

Can't bring myself to take pleasure from anyone's death. Unfortunately, the Kochs have deployed their vast fortune, influence and resources in a manner intended to benefit them by dividing society. This is no loss.

Even the maggots will give him a wide berth.

Morgans

NoteAgent wrote: »

Whatever his views, he still employed hundreds of thousands of people.
If he was poor and he held these views you wouldnt care as much I bet LMAO

He called in ICE to deport hundreds of illegal immigrant workers (who he employed) after a threatened lawsuit

https://newfoodeconomy.org/u-visa-ice-immigration-raid-koch-foods-labor-abuse-poultry-slaughterhouse-mississippi/

A person who does horrible things when alive, should NOT have their record wiped clean because they died. A count is still a count.

Force Carrier

Every individual wants to consume huge amounts of goods and services every day of their life. That's what our civilisation is based on. Mass production of and mass consumption of goods and services. The human species is responsible for the depletion of the earths resources and destruction of its environment.

Can't lay it all on one bogey man industrialist.

Sir Oxman

Zero loss to humanity.

Morgans

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Zero loss to humanity.

net plus I would have thought

Professor Moriarty

Force Carrier wrote: »

Every individual wants to consume huge amounts of goods and services every day of their life. That's what our civilisation is based on. Mass production of and mass consumption of goods and services. The human species is responsible for the depletion of the earths resources and destruction of its environment.

Can't lay it all on one bogey man industrialist.

No, not all. But Koch and his ilk are infinitely more culpable than you and me.

James Brown

Force Carrier wrote: »

Every individual wants to consume huge amounts of goods and services every day of their life. That's what our civilisation is based on. Mass production of and mass consumption of goods and services. The human species is responsible for the depletion of the earths resources and destruction of its environment.

Can't lay it all on one bogey man industrialist.

Some people will leave a biscuit for someone else, others want all the biscuits and to own the plate so they can rent it back to you. When is enough enough? In short we are all capable of being Kochs, but most of us aren't.

NoteAgent

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Some people will leave a biscuit for someone else, others want all the biscuits and to own the plate so they can rent it back to you. When is enough enough? In short we are all capable of being Kochs, but most of us aren't.

How do you suppose the people who take the risk in setting up a business are rewarded for employing people (who dont take any risk)?

Looks to me that he was an exceptional business man. He was obviously a c*nt for his political donations but do you feel the same about business people in general?

Sir Guy who smiles

NoteAgent wrote: »

How do you suppose the people who take the risk in setting up a business are rewarded for employing people (who dont take any risk)?

Looks to me that he was an exceptional business man. He was obviously a c*nt for his political donations but do you feel the same about business people in general?

People who take the risk in setting up a business...are rewarded by the success of their business. The money is their reward.

Employers are rewarded by their employees..with their work.

The days of grovelling because the nobility let you eke out a living on their estate are gone.

The argument that being an employer excuses everything is a common one, but how far do you take it?

Danzy

PopePalpatine wrote: »

The White House's flags will be at half-mast.

They and Trump disagreed on a lot of key issues, especially his position on migration and the Wall.

Which they saw as essentially Socialist in that it was the State interfering in the free market, benefiting workers at the cost of corporate business. Libertarians for ya.

No love lost there.

nkl12xtw5goz70

KyussB wrote: »

A day for celebration - haven't been so delighted at someones death since Thatcher died.

It's not quite the same, though, is it? When Thatcher was gone, she was gone. But Charles Koch lives on.

(In fact, there are four Koch brothers — Frederick, Charles, Bill, and the late David — not two, as commonly assumed.)

Professor Moriarty

Angela Melodic Mullet wrote: »

It's not quite the same, though, is it? When Thatcher was gone, she was gone. But Charles Koch lives on.

(In fact, there are four Koch brothers — Frederick, Charles, Bill, and the late David — not two, as commonly assumed.)

Plenty of Thatcherites in the Tory party today.

Realt Dearg Sec

It would be difficult to find anyone, anywhere in the world, more responsible for endangering the future of humanity, than this man. I wouldn't say I'm celebrating his death. (Nor is his death somehow going to kill the ideas he stood for and the policies he helped enact). But the world is better off without him. It would have been better still if he and his brother were dead thirty years ago.

KyussB

Angela Melodic Mullet wrote: »

It's not quite the same, though, is it? When Thatcher was gone, she was gone. But Charles Koch lives on.

(In fact, there are four Koch brothers — Frederick, Charles, Bill, and the late David — not two, as commonly assumed.)

There's plenty more were both Thatcher and David came from - what they have in common is both being high up in terms of hard earned detestability.

20Cent

Hope the Koch brothers are reunited together as soon as possible.

Professor Moriarty

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Angela Melodic Mullet wrote: »

It's not quite the same, though, is it? When Thatcher was gone, she was gone. But Charles Koch lives on.

(In fact, there are four Koch brothers — Frederick, Charles, Bill, and the late David — not two, as commonly assumed.)

Plenty of Thatcherites in the Tory party today.

And the Labour Party

kildare lad

Good , a man who used his money to corrupt and influence politicians so he could make more money . Hes prime example of everything that wrong with politicians stateside.

Mad_maxx

Can't remember the death of a public figure been treated with such warm welcome.

Were the brothers in the movie trading places based on the koch bros?

robindch

In the words of Mark Twain:

Mark Twain wrote:

I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.

Force Carrier

Force Carrier wrote: »

Every individual wants to consume huge amounts of goods and services every day of their life. That's what our civilisation is based on. Mass production of and mass consumption of goods and services. The human species is responsible for the depletion of the earths resources and destruction of its environment.

Can't lay it all on one bogey man industrialist.

I absolutely don't, and it sickens me that so many of us cannot get off that wheel and just ask ourselves do we need all the stuff we buy (we don't). There are many, many people in my parents' generation who consume much less than people in my generation and they're arguably happier. There is zero leadership from above here because the entire capitalist system, as we've currently constituted it, depends on our consuming more and more and more of all these things which we don't need. Reducing production/consumption would help the world far more than increasing recycling would. And while I recycle as much as possible, it is clear there is not the political will to do anything but promote greater consumption.

I've started leaving as much of the packaging as possible in the supermarkets which offer that service as my small message to them to come up with environmentally smarter ways to sell their products (my recycling at home is a set fee regardless so that's not my incentive to leave my packaging in Aldi/Lidl). But resolving the systemic destruction of our current capitalist system is much bigger than any of us and we need to have a load of destructive practices outlawed and make it much easier for us to be kinder to our planet. This is the issue which future generations will look back in horror at us for.

notobtuse

I see the gross, hateful and soulless ghouls have crawled out from behind the woodwork to rejoice in the death of a philanthropist. His mortal sin... he sometimes donated money to conservative causes despite supporting women’s causes, broke with the GOP when it came to gay marriage and the war in Iraq, and even supported delving deep into how much funding the military really needs.

He contributed more than $1.295 billion to medical research, education, arts, and public policy. And with the vast wealth he left behind his philanthropic legacy will likely continue and grow bigger.

Some of the evil things he has done with his money?

Given...

$185 million
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
According to Koch Industries records, the money helped fund cancer research, a childcare center, biology building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical Engineering.

$150 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
It was the largest single gift the center received. The money went to build an outpatient medical facility.

$100 million
New York-Presbyterian Hospital
Koch sent the nine-figure donation to help build an ambulatory care center in his honor. Another $28 million went to other needs for the hospital.

$100 million
New York State Theater at Lincoln Center
The theatre is now known as the David H. Koch Theatre.

$66.7 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
This donation went to assist the center with additional research funds.

$65 million
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The New York museum had their plaza renovated with the money.

$35 million
Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History
Koch’s money was spent renovating the museum’s dinosaur hall and $15 million went toward the David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins.

$26.5 million
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
The donation assisted with the research of genitourinary cancers, resulting in a center bearing his name.

$26.2 million
The Hospital for Special Surgery in New York
This charitable donation served as a capital campaign along with other causes

$20 million
American Museum of Natural History, New York
The Dinosaur Wing of the museum was named for his monetary assistance.

$20 million
Johns Hopkins University
The eight-figure donation sent to cancer research at a center named for Koch.

$10 million
Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
This donation created the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics

Continue to stay classy boards. Douchbags!

batgoat

They also blackmailed their gay brother to sell his shares or they were gonna out him to their father.. They're pretty reprehensible.
https://twitter.com/oceanclub/status/1164982966105387010?s=19

martingriff

notobtuse wrote: »

I see the gross, hateful and soulless ghouls have crawled out from behind the woodwork to rejoice in the death of a philanthropist. His mortal sin... he sometimes donated money to conservative causes despite supporting women’s causes, broke with the GOP when it came to gay marriage and the war in Iraq, and even supported delving deep into how much funding the military really needs.

He contributed more than $1.295 billion to medical research, education, arts, and public policy. And with the vast wealth he left behind his philanthropic legacy will likely continue and grow bigger.

Some of the evil things he has done with his money?

Given...

$185 million
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
According to Koch Industries records, the money helped fund cancer research, a childcare center, biology building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical Engineering.

$150 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
It was the largest single gift the center received. The money went to build an outpatient medical facility.

$100 million
New York-Presbyterian Hospital
Koch sent the nine-figure donation to help build an ambulatory care center in his honor. Another $28 million went to other needs for the hospital.

$100 million
New York State Theater at Lincoln Center
The theatre is now known as the David H. Koch Theatre.

$66.7 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
This donation went to assist the center with additional research funds.

$65 million
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The New York museum had their plaza renovated with the money.

$35 million
Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History
Koch’s money was spent renovating the museum’s dinosaur hall and $15 million went toward the David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins.

$26.5 million
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
The donation assisted with the research of genitourinary cancers, resulting in a center bearing his name.

$26.2 million
The Hospital for Special Surgery in New York
This charitable donation served as a capital campaign along with other causes

$20 million
American Museum of Natural History, New York
The Dinosaur Wing of the museum was named for his monetary assistance.

$20 million
Johns Hopkins University
The eight-figure donation sent to cancer research at a center named for Koch.

$10 million
Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
This donation created the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics

Continue to stay classy boards. Douchbags!

While he has funded a lot of stuff (been it called your name is very egotistical) he did do some bad things see post below the quoted post. So just because he did good does not mean it wipes anything out. Epstein, Saville, Harris all did financial contribution to and y.

However I agree I can never celebrate a death even if it is good there gone. Some on here seem to believe with him gone (and soon the brothers) as if all will be good. How about the millions of others with there ideals and how about the politicans, it seems some here are giving them a free pass as if it was all Kosh doing.

KyussB

By far their favoured 'donated' activity was/is funding propaganda aimed at spreading falsehoods and withholding/delaying truths from mainstream discussin - in ways that, among other things, greatly delayed proper public realization of the seriousness of climate change, and still today is delaying a proper response to climate change despite that growing realization.

He was a wilful doubt peddlers of the most unethical kind, with an ability to influence the world, in a way that has an indirect death toll attached to it.

Celebrating the death of someone who played a key enabling part, in upholding a system that he knows will lead to enormous numbers of deaths - there is pretty much zero ethical/moral ambiguity to it.

Morgans

notobtuse wrote: »

I see the gross, hateful and soulless ghouls have crawled out from behind the woodwork to rejoice in the death of a philanthropist. His mortal sin... he sometimes donated money to conservative causes despite supporting women’s causes, broke with the GOP when it came to gay marriage and the war in Iraq, and even supported delving deep into how much funding the military really needs.

He contributed more than $1.295 billion to medical research, education, arts, and public policy. And with the vast wealth he left behind his philanthropic legacy will likely continue and grow bigger.

Some of the evil things he has done with his money?

Given...

$185 million
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
According to Koch Industries records, the money helped fund cancer research, a childcare center, biology building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical Engineering.

$150 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
It was the largest single gift the center received. The money went to build an outpatient medical facility.

$100 million
New York-Presbyterian Hospital
Koch sent the nine-figure donation to help build an ambulatory care center in his honor. Another $28 million went to other needs for the hospital.

$100 million
New York State Theater at Lincoln Center
The theatre is now known as the David H. Koch Theatre.

$66.7 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
This donation went to assist the center with additional research funds.

$65 million
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The New York museum had their plaza renovated with the money.

$35 million
Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History
Koch’s money was spent renovating the museum’s dinosaur hall and $15 million went toward the David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins.

$26.5 million
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
The donation assisted with the research of genitourinary cancers, resulting in a center bearing his name.

$26.2 million
The Hospital for Special Surgery in New York
This charitable donation served as a capital campaign along with other causes

$20 million
American Museum of Natural History, New York
The Dinosaur Wing of the museum was named for his monetary assistance.

$20 million
Johns Hopkins University
The eight-figure donation sent to cancer research at a center named for Koch.

$10 million
Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
This donation created the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics

Continue to stay classy boards. Douchbags!

It gives cover to claim he is a philantropist and turn a blind eye to the horrible divisive fascistic rascist propoganda that he bankrolls, the main force behind the tea party, and the main fuel behind right wing arsehole machine. I'd bet that anyone supporting the Koch brothers, crying over the philantrophy he did without mentioning his propaganda is only part of that grift, either trolling or one of those "douchebag". Shame he didn't die 10 years ago.

Morgans

notobtuse wrote: »

I see the gross, hateful and soulless ghouls have crawled out from behind the woodwork to rejoice in the death of a philanthropist. His mortal sin... he sometimes donated money to conservative causes despite supporting women’s causes, broke with the GOP when it came to gay marriage and the war in Iraq, and even supported delving deep into how much funding the military really needs.

He contributed more than $1.295 billion to medical research, education, arts, and public policy. And with the vast wealth he left behind his philanthropic legacy will likely continue and grow bigger.

Some of the evil things he has done with his money?

Given...

$185 million
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
According to Koch Industries records, the money helped fund cancer research, a childcare center, biology building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical Engineering.

$150 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
It was the largest single gift the center received. The money went to build an outpatient medical facility.

$100 million
New York-Presbyterian Hospital
Koch sent the nine-figure donation to help build an ambulatory care center in his honor. Another $28 million went to other needs for the hospital.

$100 million
New York State Theater at Lincoln Center
The theatre is now known as the David H. Koch Theatre.

$66.7 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
This donation went to assist the center with additional research funds.

$65 million
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The New York museum had their plaza renovated with the money.

$35 million
Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History
Koch’s money was spent renovating the museum’s dinosaur hall and $15 million went toward the David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins.

$26.5 million
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
The donation assisted with the research of genitourinary cancers, resulting in a center bearing his name.

$26.2 million
The Hospital for Special Surgery in New York
This charitable donation served as a capital campaign along with other causes

$20 million
American Museum of Natural History, New York
The Dinosaur Wing of the museum was named for his monetary assistance.

$20 million
Johns Hopkins University
The eight-figure donation sent to cancer research at a center named for Koch.

$10 million
Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
This donation created the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics

Continue to stay classy boards. Douchbags!

Stay classy douchebags.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/08/30/covert-operations

David Koch has acknowledged that the family exerts tight ideological control. “If we’re going to give a lot of money, we’ll make darn sure they spend it in a way that goes along with our intent,” he told Doherty. “And if they make a wrong turn and start doing things we don’t agree with, we withdraw funding.”

Weaponised philantropy.

El_Duderino 09

How you can expect to be remembered is a lot about how you use the power and influence you have. The Koch lads use their considerable power and influence to build their own power influence and wealth. Screw the little guy whenever it suites them, opposed the kinds of things that would Improve things for the common man at government level. Opposed unions, opposed labour protection, supported tax cuts for the rich and service cuts and pay cuts for the poor.

I think it's reasonable that they will be remembered by the vast majority of people as complete and utter pricks. I wish there was an afterlife so they could get what they deserve, but there isn't so he's got away with everything he's done. Such is life. And death.

Dog Man Star

notobtuse wrote: »

I see the gross, hateful and soulless ghouls have crawled out from behind the woodwork to rejoice in the death of a philanthropist. His mortal sin... he sometimes donated money to conservative causes despite supporting women’s causes, broke with the GOP when it came to gay marriage and the war in Iraq, and even supported delving deep into how much funding the military really needs.

He contributed more than $1.295 billion to medical research, education, arts, and public policy. And with the vast wealth he left behind his philanthropic legacy will likely continue and grow bigger.

Some of the evil things he has done with his money?

Given...

$185 million
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
According to Koch Industries records, the money helped fund cancer research, a childcare center, biology building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical Engineering.

$150 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
It was the largest single gift the center received. The money went to build an outpatient medical facility.

$100 million
New York-Presbyterian Hospital
Koch sent the nine-figure donation to help build an ambulatory care center in his honor. Another $28 million went to other needs for the hospital.

$100 million
New York State Theater at Lincoln Center
The theatre is now known as the David H. Koch Theatre.

$66.7 million
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
This donation went to assist the center with additional research funds.

$65 million
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The New York museum had their plaza renovated with the money.

$35 million
Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History
Koch’s money was spent renovating the museum’s dinosaur hall and $15 million went toward the David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins.

$26.5 million
M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
The donation assisted with the research of genitourinary cancers, resulting in a center bearing his name.

$26.2 million
The Hospital for Special Surgery in New York
This charitable donation served as a capital campaign along with other causes

$20 million
American Museum of Natural History, New York
The Dinosaur Wing of the museum was named for his monetary assistance.

$20 million
Johns Hopkins University
The eight-figure donation sent to cancer research at a center named for Koch.

$10 million
Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
This donation created the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics

Continue to stay classy boards. Douchbags!

Jimmy Savile raised 40 million for charities.

Dog Man Star

"As for his remains, he wants to be cremated and his ashes blown into a child's lungs. The Amazon is burning up so fck him, I'm glad he's dead"

Always quality from Bill Maher

Sonny noggs

Morgans wrote: »

Stay classy douchebags.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/08/30/covert-operations

David Koch has acknowledged that the family exerts tight ideological control. “If we’re going to give a lot of money, we’ll make darn sure they spend it in a way that goes along with our intent,” he told Doherty. “And if they make a wrong turn and start doing things we don’t agree with, we withdraw funding.”

Weaponised philantropy.

I’m sure George Soros doesn’t donate to causes that advocate for proper border control, and he’d be quick to withdraw funding if they started doing so. I wonder how many anti-abortion foundations Soros funds. Would you class his philanthropy as weaponised philanthropy also?

How about the well publicised story of the (black) billionaire that paid the student loans of the 2019 graduating students of Morehouse College - ‘a private, historically black men’s college’. Weaponised philanthropy?

Realt Dearg Sec

Never ceases to amaze me the craven forelock tugging that some people will engage in regarding the ultra rich. He employed people? He donated some money to hospitals?

Meanwhile he was the financial engine behind dismantling democracy, disinformation, accelerating and denying climate change, aggressive efforts at local, state and federal level to carbonise the economy in every way imaginable, suppress unions, public transport, etc etc. The lads genuflecting about this guy should probably keep in mind he aggressively pursued the endangerment of humanity just to enrich himself. These guys would make a lampshade out of your skin if they thought there was a few quid in it for them.

Dog Man Star

i've done the maths. According to notobtuse, over his life time Koch donated $704m from a total wealth of $48billion. That's 1.4%.

That is equivalent to an average Irish worker earning €39,000 a year (average industrial wage) donating, wait for it.........€546. Over his lifetime. 1.4%.

€546 and we are supposed to be impressed?

"Douchbag" (sic)

Junkyard Tom

Dog Man Star wrote: »

total wealth of $48billion.

The fact that an individual can accumulate such vast wealth is indicative of a broken system that needs serious reform.

Sonny noggs

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The fact that an individual can accumulate such vast wealth is indicative of a broken system that needs serious reform.

Yes, only the communist party elite should be allowed to accumulate such wealth, power and privilege.

Morgans

Sonny noggs wrote: »

I’m sure George Soros doesn’t donate to causes that advocate for proper border control, and he’d be quick to withdraw funding if they started doing so. I wonder how many anti-abortion foundations Soros funds. Would you class his philanthropy as weaponised philanthropy also?

How about the well publicised story of the (black) billionaire that paid the student loans of the 2019 graduating students of Morehouse College - ‘a private, historically black men’s college’. Weaponised philanthropy?

I regret responding initially. I didn't realise the person who posted it has been regurgitating the same right wing talking points around the forum. I'm not going to waste my time debating disingenuous time wasters. Continue with your whataboutery without my attention.

Realt Dearg Sec

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The fact that an individual can accumulate such vast wealth is indicative of a broken system that needs serious reform.

Yes, only the communist party elite should be allowed to accumulate such wealth, power and privilege.

Yeah that's exactly what he said.

This kind of nonsense is why nobody wants to debate with far right ideological loons.

Sonny noggs

Morgans wrote: »

I regret responding initially. I didn't realise the person who posted it has been regurgitating the same right wing talking points around the forum. I'm not going to waste my time debating disingenuous time wasters. Continue with your whataboutery without my attention.

Yeah, just as I thought ‘weaponised philanthropy’ is only a problem when the ‘other side’ does it. Point proven. Cheers. No further response required.