Kids in non kid films

gmisk

I went to a screening last night of once upon a time in hollywood.
Plonked in front of me was a mum and her kid I would say he was about maybe 8.
I checked to see what age film was and it was 18, the staff clearly saw him and did nothing.
I wanted to say something, my partner wouldnt let me.
What would you do in this situation?
Are there penalties for breaching the age admittance to films?


(BTW his mum and him eventually left when there was a mention of blow jobs....but it was a good while into the film).

El Duda

Natalie Portman in Leon


I didn't read the OP. I hope i am doing this thread right?

SoundsRight

The law prohibits children from watching 18 rates films in the cinema.

http://www.ifco.ie/en/IFCO/Pages/FAQ

I can only assume whoever was selling the tickets didn't want to cause a scene by refusing admission, being accused of discriminating against single mothers etc.

optogirl

SoundsRight wrote: »

The law prohibits children from watching 18 rates films in the cinema.

http://www.ifco.ie/en/IFCO/Pages/FAQ

I can only assume whoever was selling the tickets didn't want to cause a scene by refusing admission, being accused of discriminating against single mothers etc.

???? You don't have to be a single mother to go the cinema with your child without the other parent. Wouldn't dream of bringing an 8 year old to an 18s mind you.

SoundsRight

Why would you say something? The child is with an adult and the employees are aware of it.

I'd sit and gorge on me popcorn, guzzle me Fanta and enjoy the film.

SoundsRight wrote: »

I can only assume whoever was selling the tickets didn't want to cause a scene by refusing admission, being accused of discriminating against single mothers etc.

A truly bizarre conclusion.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

The law prohibits children from watching 18 rates films in the cinema.

http://www.ifco.ie/en/IFCO/Pages/FAQ

I can only assume whoever was selling the tickets didn't want to cause a scene by refusing admission, being accused of discriminating against single mothers etc.

It was a free screening, but you had to collect the tickets from counter and then tickets were checked on the way in, plus there were 2 ushers shifting people about...so they clearly saw the kid and did feck all.
BTW i am guessing 10 he was probably a bit younger.

gmisk

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would you say something? The child is with an adult and the employees are aware of it.

I'd sit and gorge on me popcorn, guzzle me Fanta and enjoy the film.

A truly bizarre conclusion.

When a child shouts in the middle of it
MA WHATS A BLOWJOB?!

it rather takes you out of the film.

It really wasnt a suitable film for a kid of that age.

fmpisces

I agree it's not right to take a minor with you to a screening that's only suitable for adults, but it's not your place to say anything either. Also incorrect to assume she was a single mother just because she was alone with her child.

gmisk

fmpisces wrote: »

I agree it's not right to take a minor with you to a screening that's only suitable for adults, but it's not your place to say anything either. Also incorrect to assume she was a single mother just because she was alone with her child.

If the kid is talking the whole way through it and asking MA WHATS A BLOWJOB - Why would it not be ok to say anything?
If my partner hadnt been there I definitely would have complained.


I didnt assume anything about the woman being a single mother....that was another poster.

fmpisces

gmisk wrote: »

If the kid is talking the whole way through it and asking MA WHATS A BLOWJOB - Why would it not be ok to say anything?
If my partner hadnt been there I definitely would have complained.


I didnt assume anything about the woman being a single mother....that was another poster.

I totally understand why you would want to say something (I would too), but it's not your child.

I'm sorry I should have referenced that I wasn't blaming you for the single mother comment.

silverharp

if the kid was bored and p1ssing about I would say something to the parent , You take your chances with a PG or 12A movie. If its specifically an 18's movie the expectations have to be no kids ruining the movie.

Tombo2001

Is this an issue in general OP? (Answer, No its not).

This is a single incident that you happened to observe.

Its not great, but its hardly the most shocking incident of bad parenting I've ever seen.

Why are you starting a thread about it?

Pretty.Odd.

gmisk wrote: »

It was a free screening, but you had to collect the tickets from counter and then tickets were checked on the way in, plus there were 2 ushers shifting people about...so they clearly saw the kid and did feck all.
BTW i am guessing 10 he was probably a bit younger.

I was at a free screening of this yesterday too. Staff in cinema were checking ID and turned away a few u18s.

Mr E

There were signs up everywhere in my local Odeon to say that OUATIH was strictly 18s - if you were asked for ID and couldn't produce it, they would refuse admission.

First time I've seen that in a long time.

B_ecke_r

Favourite film @ that age was Jaws - It didn't scar me for life. (still won't get me in the Sea like but...)

Imagine taking an 8 year old to a Tarantino movie. Any Tarantino movie. The mother must of been on crack or something.

Skerries

El Duda wrote: »

Natalie Portman in Leon

the problem is when it's the other way around

gmisk

fmpisces wrote: »

I agree it's not right to take a minor with you to a screening that's only suitable for adults, but it's not your place to say anything either. Also incorrect to assume she was a single mother just because she was alone with her child.

Mr E wrote: »

There were signs up everywhere in my local Odeon to say that OUATIH was strictly 18s - if you were asked for ID and couldn't produce it, they would refuse admission.

First time I've seen that in a long time.

This was in the Odeon at point village, I didnt see any signs tbh.


Look tbh I would have turned a blind eye (as my partner wanted me to) to the fact he was so young if he shut up.....he didnt.

gmisk

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Is this an issue in general OP? (Answer, No its not).

This is a single incident that you happened to observe.

Its not great, but its hardly the most shocking incident of bad parenting I've ever seen.

Why are you starting a thread about it?

Why does anyone start a thread? Because I wanted to hear peoples opinions.

SoundsRight

fmpisces wrote: »

I agree it's not right to take a minor with you to a screening that's only suitable for adults, but it's not your place to say anything either. Also incorrect to assume she was a single mother just because she was alone with her child.

It's absolutely your place to say it. A child is being exposed to images of sex and violence that are entirely inappropriate. That's why the law is there. Shame on anyone who turns a blind eye to that. Jeez, have we not learned anything in this country.

eviltimeban

When I was a kid (about 15) my dad took me to see Total Recall in the Adelphi. He forgot himself when buying the tickets and asked if there was a child rate (the movie was 18s). The ticket office refused to give him the tickets. He had to ask a guy to buy the tickets for him! :-)

KathleenGrant

I would be with OP on this. If I saw someone under age at an 18's film I would say something. Probably to staff though, not the parent.

ziedth

KathleenGrant wrote: »

I would be with OP on this. If I saw someone under age at an 18's film I would say something. Probably to staff though, not the parent.

Really? Like if there was a 12 year old sitting quietly watching a QT film you would go out and say something? - Your not "wrong" to do that of course but in a million years I wouldn't do it.

Granted it was many many years ago but I was very young watching "adult" films. I still remember I went to see seven and Die hard with a vengeance in the cinema and I was 11 or 12. I genuinely believe the reason I enjoy films as much as I do is because I watched these films with my older brother. George of the Jungle was probably in the cinema around the same time as Die hard. I know which film steered me towards films more

SoundsRight

ziedth wrote: »

Really? Like if there was a 12 year old sitting quietly watching a QT film you would go out and say something? - Your not "wrong" to do that of course but in a million years I wouldn't do it.

Granted it was many many years ago but I was very young watching "adult" films. I still remember I went to see seven and Die hard with a vengeance in the cinema and I was 11 or 12. I genuinely believe the reason I enjoy films as much as I do is because I watched these films with my older brother. George of the Jungle was probably in the cinema around the same time as Die hard. I know which film steered me towards films more

Kids watching Arnie or John McClane blowing stuff up is one thing. Kids watching a QT film, which have featured scenes of torture, drug use, gay sex and countless n-bombs is another thing altogether. You have a moral duty to report to the cinema staff, and/or the Gardai. It could be a way of adults grooming a child into thinking that they are ready for sex.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

Kids watching Arnie or John McClane blowing stuff up is one thing. Kids watching a QT film, which have featured scenes of torture, drug use, gay sex and countless n-bombs is another thing altogether. You have a moral duty to report to the cinema staff, and/or the Gardai. It could be a way of adults grooming a child into thinking that they are ready for sex.

Could you not have just said sex?

optogirl

SoundsRight wrote: »

Kids watching Arnie or John McClane blowing stuff up is one thing. Kids watching a QT film, which have featured scenes of torture, drug use, gay sex and countless n-bombs is another thing altogether. You have a moral duty to report to the cinema staff, and/or the Gardai. It could be a way of adults grooming a child into thinking that they are ready for sex.

Gay sex as opposed to any other type of sex?

On the grooming tangent - surely there are more straightforward porn films to use in such instances. A tarantino film usually makes sex violent and unappealing so hardly a go to to convince a child to partake.

Ragnar Lothbrok

If the child was actually causing a disturbance it would have been absolutely right to complain to a member of staff - same thing as anyone of any age ruining films for others.

If the child was just watching the film quietly, then really, it's none of your business. We don't all agree on differing parenting choices, and if his mother was happy enough to bring him, then so be it.

Guy:Incognito

optogirl wrote: »

Gay sex as opposed to any other type of sex?

On the grooming tangent - surely there are more straightforward porn films to use in such instances. A tarantino film usually makes sex violent and unappealing so hardly a go to to convince a child to partake.

More male rape rather than gay sex I'd have thought?

Kids dont need to be watching sex scenes and certainly not violent sex or rape scenes .

Theres a reason film classifications exist and just saying "well I saw this 18's film so they're all ok" isnt any sort of justification. Theres a world of difference in the range of 18's films.

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

.
. We don't all agree on differing parenting choices, and if his mother was happy enough to bring him, then so be it.

The law agrees.

While no one can stop you showing what you like to your kids at home , businesses are subject to the law and face punishment

SoundsRight

optogirl wrote: »

Gay sex as opposed to any other type of sex?

On the grooming tangent - surely there are more straightforward porn films to use in such instances. A tarantino film usually makes sex violent and unappealing so hardly a go to to convince a child to partake.

You would be less likely to be reported in a cinema if you took a child to watch a mainstream film which featured sex scenes than a straight-up pornographic film. Are people genuinely comfortable watching sex scenes in the presence of children? That's disturbing.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

You would be less likely to be reported in a cinema if you took a child to watch a mainstream film which featured sex scenes than a straight-up pornographic film. Are people genuinely comfortable watching sex scenes in the presence of children? That's disturbing.

Clearly people are not, what responses made you think people are?
Why does it matter if its gay sex? as opposed to straight people having sex? You still havent answered that.

Terminator movies - young John connor
Downfall - Goebells kids

Ash.J.Williams

gmisk wrote: »

I went to a screening last night of once upon a time in hollywood.
Plonked in front of me was a mum and her kid I would say he was about maybe 8.
I checked to see what age film was and it was 18, the staff clearly saw him and did nothing.
I wanted to say something, my partner wouldnt let me.
What would you do in this situation?
Are there penalties for breaching the age admittance to films?


(BTW his mum and him eventually left when there was a mention of blow jobs....but it was a good while into the film).

I'd do absolutely nothing

Some things never change: revenue rules in IRISH cii e a scene.

Kids allowed into In Bruges with Brenda Gleeson. Nothi g done by Irish film scene.

kunst nugget

My Da brought me to see Aliens when I was about 8 or 9. It was mega. Loved every second of it. Did me no harm. The missus wouldn't be into our kids watching movies that might be deemed inappropriate but it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't be going all Mary Whitehouse on the situation in relation to other people's children when it comes to films - their children, their choice.

SoundsRight

gmisk wrote: »

Clearly people are not, what responses made you think people are?
Why does it matter if its gay sex? as opposed to straight people having sex? You still havent answered that.

Some responses have clearly said they would say nothing and continue watching the film.

You want me to clarify why I'm uncomfortable with children watching two men having sex???

fxotoole

gmisk wrote: »

I went to a screening last night of once upon a time in hollywood.
Plonked in front of me was a mum and her kid I would say he was about maybe 8.
I checked to see what age film was and it was 18, the staff clearly saw him and did nothing.
I wanted to say something, my partner wouldnt let me.
What would you do in this situation?
Are there penalties for breaching the age admittance to films?


(BTW his mum and him eventually left when there was a mention of blow jobs....but it was a good while into the film).

I’d call the children police

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

My Da brought me to see Aliens when I was about 8 or 9. It was mega. Loved every second of it. Did me no harm. .

Apart from that 5 year stint you did for burning the school down with a flame thrower

kunst nugget

Deleted User wrote: »

Apart from that 5 year stint you did for burning the school down with a flame thrower

Was able to get off on a technicality - blamed it on parental neglect.

Game over, man. Game fooking over!!!

pc7

Deleted User wrote: »

Imagine taking an 8 year old to a Tarantino movie. Any Tarantino movie. The mother must of been on crack or something.

Could be like Bad Santa, the name caught her out and she thought it was a fairy tale

B_ecke_r

pc7 wrote: »

Could be like Bad Santa, the name caught her out and she thought it was a fairy tale

this happened someone I know with Sausage Party

Guy:Incognito

pc7 wrote: »

Could be like Bad Santa, the name caught her out and she thought it was a fairy tale

If only they'd put little numbers on films to indicate who its suitable for......

nix

kunst nugget wrote: »

Was able to get off on a technicality - blamed it on parental neglect.

Game over, man. Game fooking over!!!

You're dog meat pal! :pac:

I went to see Terminator 2 when i was 8 years old with the family, which was grand. I got refused from Demolition man with my 18 year old brother when i was 10 years old, the usher just wanted to flex some authority, i remember his smug face more than my actual disappointment :mad:

I havent seen once upon a time in hollywood yet, but a quick glimpse over the imdb PG, it doesnt seem like theres any nudity/sex. If its just swear words with a lil violence, the parent did no wrong. Id draw the line at heavy nudity/sex/gore/drug use, anything else they would see worse on tv/online/outside.

My main issue would be the kid talking throughout, in which i defo would have said something, as that ****s not on :pac::D:P

kunst nugget

SoundsRight wrote: »

You want me to clarify why I'm uncomfortable with children watching two men having sex???

You don't like them seeing you getting turned on?

sweetie

If this was one of the free showings from Vodafone, they weren't scanning or checking what movie in Charlestown. I could have brought my neighbours.

gmisk

nix wrote: »

You're dog meat pal! :pac:

I went to see Terminator 2 when i was 8 years old with the family, which was grand. I got refused from Demolition man with my 18 year old brother when i was 10 years old, the usher just wanted to flex some authority, i remember his smug face more than my actual disappointment :mad:

I havent seen once upon a time in hollywood yet, but a quick glimpse over the imdb PG, it doesnt seem like theres any nudity/sex. If its just swear words with a lil violence, the parent did no wrong. Id draw the line at heavy nudity/sex/gore/drug use, anything else they would see worse on tv/online/outside.

My main issue would be the kid talking throughout, in which i defo would have said something, as that ****s not on :pac::D:P

There is pretty much constant swearing...and I can confirm there is MASSIVELY violent section I wont go into details but it is very gruesome and visceral.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

Some responses have clearly said they would say nothing and continue watching the film.

You want me to clarify why I'm uncomfortable with children watching two men having sex???

No I want you to clarify why you said "gay sex"?
Would you be comfortable with them watching a man and woman having sex?
Thats my question.
Why make the very clear distinction?

Ragnar Lothbrok

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

While no one can stop you showing what you like to your kids at home , businesses are subject to the law and face punishment

Oh, I know. I wasn't talking about the legal position, more to do with the fact that the OP wanted to bring it to the attention of someone (parent or staff) because the child was annoying him rather than any concern for the law.

SoundsRight

gmisk wrote: »

No I want you to clarify why you said "gay sex"?
Would you be comfortable with them watching a man and woman having sex?
Thats my question.
Why make the very clear distinction?

I picked a shocking and disturbing scene from Pulp Fiction to make a point about why kids shouldn't watch certain 18 rated movies, as opposed to Die Hard or Total Recall. If the scene had been a man and women, i wouldn't have needed to make the distinction.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

I picked a shocking and disturbing scene from Pulp Fiction to make a point about why kids shouldn't watch certain 18 rated movies, as opposed to Die Hard or Total Recall. If the scene had been a man and women, i wouldn't have needed to make the distinction.

Ok from what I remember for a start that wasnt a "gay sex" scene...it was a male rape.
It was just odd to say gay sex scene IMO, you could have just said sex scene.

SoundsRight

gmisk wrote: »

Ok from what I remember for a start that wasnt a "gay sex" scene...it was a male rape.
It was just odd to say gay sex scene IMO, you could have just said sex scene.

Call it what you like, if you're in a cinema and you see an adult bringing a child to watch it, you have a duty to notify someone in authority.

gmisk

SoundsRight wrote: »

Call it what you like, if you're in a cinema and you see an adult bringing a child to watch it, you have a duty to notify someone in authority.

I don't think I do to be honest, why should it fall to me specifically in a busy cinema?

For a start I had no idea that the film was an 18 until I looked it up afterwards, it could have been a 15A for all I knew.
It is up to the cinema to really do something especially as they could clearly see the kid and they gave the mother and him the tickets at the desk, and they were checked again at a lectern again after that!