California Dreamer wrote: »
50 pax per CC
The Veteran wrote: »
Thanks for the replies so far folks but one "angle" I want to establish is, can an aircraft that say requires 4 if full can operate with a reduced number of pax.
Essentially, 189 pax if full requiring 4 CC, but when one falls ill, can the aircraft offload some pax to bring it within the max number of pax for 3 CC?
Brennus335 wrote: »
No, minimum crew compliment is one cabin crew member per 50 seats. It doesn't matter if the seat is occupied or empty.
The Veteran wrote: »
Folks, thanks again for the replies to date. Quick version of events:
Sunwings Aircraft (so Canadian registered) operating a TUI flight with Sunwings pilots but TUI CC (based on sight of their airside badges). So, first complications are which regulatory authority is relevant (Canada or UK as the plane is Canadian and the airline as such British). For the same.reason, whose SOPs apply. Not sure any of us here can answer those questions? (Or at least the second one anyway).
Flight.comes.from Dublin to Rhodes and lands late. Boarding for the return commences but stops after about 15 pax are let through gate to get on bus. Time passes and we're told.flight delayed for at least 16 hours (based on expected new departure time). Meanwhile (as I discovered later from talking to someone close to events); a CC member was taken to hospital as no assessment was possible.at the airport and the empty aircraft took for Dublin approx 75 mins after it should.have left full. A replacement 757 was brought from Manchester and we got back to DUB 20 hours late.
I'm not looking for EU 261 advice but I am anticipating the airline citing "exceptional circumstances" to refuse compensation. I'm trying to anticipate that by understanding whether the airline could have brought some or the majority home and only delayed (in EU 261 terms) about a quarter of the pax. Thankfully the CC member was fine and actually deadheaded home on the 757 (so it's not about her) but rather that now that the delay has happened, understanding what options were open to the airline to minimise the impact. It would strike me that if there was scope to operate with a reduced pax load that it would have been better.
Accepting the replies so far, any further views? Looking to leverage the knowledge on here to understand the options TUI had open to them.
martinsvi wrote: »
airlines operating under EASA operators in EASA land have to adhere to EASA rules, doesn't matter where the plane is registered.
however, procedures for operation with reduced cabin crew are decided by the company itself and approved by the aviation authority. As already mentioned here, you can reduce the number of CCs, as long as you have a senior and as long as you have 1 per 50 pax. This is only allowed if you return from outstation to base. You need one CC working with an exit pair, so technically you could reduce a 737 CC count down to 2.
For smaller planes, like a Q400 or CRJ you could go down to 1 cc as long as (s)he takes the rear jump seat for take off and landing and the FO will operate the front emergency exit doors if such need will arise
NH2013 wrote: »
Well not totally correct, with the Sunwings aircraft and pilots they'll be operating under their Canadian AOC or basically Canadian Airline License so they will have to satisfy Canadian laws, however as they are operating on behalf of an EASA airline TUI, they'll also have to obey some European EASA rules as well, so are in fact restricted to whichever laws are more restrictive on them, either Canadian or EASA they'd have to go with the more restrictive.