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GPA Looking For Gate Receipts

  • 11-08-2019 10:00am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭ cms88


    Seen this somewhere else and thought it might be interesting

    Very worring views coming out of the GPA in relation to the possibility of claiming gate receipts. The GPA treat themselves as professionals in an amateur organisation using words like "stakeholders" for players. The game needs radical overhaul in terms of how the wealth in the game is distributed. Game was never about money or greed but I'm afraid it is increasingly going down this route. The game cannot survive without clubs and club players and the voluntarily support of their local people but unsure if the GPA and the top brass in the GAA understand that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog


    GPA is a beaten flush. Basically a house union now. Main motivation as framed by the Down chap (not a player himself afaik) whose sole objective was to use it as bargaining chip to get contracts for big name players. That's been done and you even have well known Dublin, Cork and Mayo women, and a few camogs as well wetting their beaks in the media and advertising world. And fair play to them. If you can sell your face and voice, go for it. Doesn't harm the games themselves and arguably heightens the public perception of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    cms88 wrote: »
    Seen this somewhere else and thought it might be interesting

    Very worring views coming out of the GPA in relation to the possibility of claiming gate receipts. The GPA treat themselves as professionals in an amateur organisation using words like "stakeholders" for players. The game needs radical overhaul in terms of how the wealth in the game is distributed. Game was never about money or greed but I'm afraid it is increasingly going down this route. The game cannot survive without clubs and club players and the voluntarily support of their local people but unsure if the GPA and the top brass in the GAA understand that.

    Next the GAA television rights will be sold to the higher bidder!
    Dublin will then be split in two to create an "old firm" money machine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭ MayoAreMagic


    Give it to them.
    Frankly, it is better they get it than some g*b****e suit or it beibg pumped into Dublin, which is what is happening at present.

    Ironically, the betrayal of the amateur ethos is about the most honest option on the table...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Next the GAA television rights will be sold to the higher bidder!
    Dublin will then be split in two to create an "old firm" money machine.

    No one in Dublin would pay to watch that. So I don't know how it would make money


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    No one in Dublin would pay to watch that. So I don't know how it would make money

    Northside vs Southside?

    I think the GAA are seeing €€€€€€€€ potential.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭ MayoAreMagic


    No one in Dublin would pay to watch that. So I don't know how it would make money

    Still better than the other option of not one from the other 31 counties watching Id have thought...

    If you think Dublin can hold the rest of the country to ransom, you are very much mistaken. If they decided in the morning that there will be 2 teams or there will be no team, then you would just have to grin and bear it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭ Fann Linn


    Still better than the other option of not one from the other 31 counties watching Id have thought...

    If you think Dublin can hold the rest of the country to ransom, you are very much mistaken.


    Were ye at the match yesterday or on your boycott?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭ MayoAreMagic


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Were ye at the match yesterday or on your boycott?

    Leinsterdub brought up the idea of a boycott. I simply illustrated the point that he is arguing from a position of weakness...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭ Poor_old_gill


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    GPA is a beaten flush. Basically a house union now. Main motivation as framed by the Down chap (not a player himself afaik) whose sole objective was to use it as bargaining chip to get contracts for big name players. That's been done and you even have well known Dublin, Cork and Mayo women, and a few camogs as well wetting their beaks in the media and advertising world. And fair play to them. If you can sell your face and voice, go for it. Doesn't harm the games themselves and arguably heightens the public perception of them.

    The GPA are like the in-house social committee in work.
    The management appoint them and throw them a few bits and bobs to keep the grunts happy.

    They have become a bunch of poodles


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Northside vs Southside?

    I think the GAA are seeing €€€€€€€€ potential.

    You're imagining the potential. I'm from the northside but most of my friends are from the southside. Who would I support? I'd tell you who. No one I'd just give up on the gaa


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Still better than the other option of not one from the other 31 counties watching Id have thought...

    If you think Dublin can hold the rest of the country to ransom, you are very much mistaken. If they decided in the morning that there will be 2 teams or there will be no team, then you would just have to grin and bear it.
    Would you go watch a merged Mayo-Galway? If they merged and you stopped going would you consider it a boycott?

    Leinsterdub brought up the idea of a boycott. I simply illustrated the point that he is arguing from a position of weakness...

    I didn't. It wouldn't be a boycott. I support Dublin. If Dublin were no longer a team I'd simply not be interested. For it to be a boycott you actually have to give a ****. I would not give a **** about watching North Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    You're imagining the potential. I'm from the northside but most of my friends are from the southside. Who would I support? I'd tell you who. No one I'd just give up on the gaa

    People said the same when Shamrock Rovers left Milltown,

    Galway were the Leinster hurling champions in 2018.


    Sport evolves , so will GAA.

    33000 at the all ireland semi speaks volumes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Chiparus wrote: »
    People said the same when Shamrock Rovers left Milltown,

    Galway were the Leinster hurling champions in 2018.


    Sport evolves , so will GAA.

    33000 at the all ireland semi speaks volumes.
    There teams didn't stop existing. Galway went from no championship to having something to play for and leaving Milltown nearly killed Shamrock Rovers. It took nearly 3 decades for them to recover and only then because they still had some hardcore fans.

    If the GAA merged your county with a other would you still support it?

    None of the people I go to games with would support a rump Dublin. Are you aware of anyone who would support these teams?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog


    Chiparus wrote: »
    People said the same when Shamrock Rovers left Milltown,

    Galway were the Leinster hurling champions in 2018.


    Sport evolves , so will GAA.

    33000 at the all ireland semi speaks volumes.


    There was a full house at the semi final involving the team that is allegedly killing the game and that you want to split into local authority areas.

    If that happens, there will be no team representing Dublin GAA. You may be sure of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭ Sonny noggs


    Out of curiosity how would the split work for determining which side a player would be on? Can’t be birthplace relative to the Liffey (given the location of the maternity hospitals), so by current club? And if so, what would be the breakdown of the current Dublin panel? (Assuming the split is based on the Liffey.)

    Just asking, not in any way supporting it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog


    Of starting 15 last night, 8 are with northside clubs. Castleknock is kind of sui generis,


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    Out of curiosity how would the split work for determining which side a player would be on? Can’t be birthplace relative to the Liffey (given the location of the maternity hospitals), so by current club? And if so, what would be the breakdown of the current Dublin panel? (Assuming the split is based on the Liffey.)

    Just asking, not in any way supporting it.

    If Galway can be in Leinster all the assinine rules can be changed.

    Who knows, some of the better Mayo players might get to play on a championship winning team ?
    The Southside Snobs, or the Northside knacks?:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ Gachla


    There teams didn't stop existing. Galway went from no championship to having something to play for and leaving Milltown nearly killed Shamrock Rovers. It took nearly 3 decades for them to recover and only then because they still had some hardcore fans.

    If the GAA merged your county with a other would you still support it?

    None of the people I go to games with would support a rump Dublin. Are you aware of anyone who would support these teams?

    Unfortunately, it's got to the stage where it will either be Dublin getting split or other counties merging. I don't see why other counties should get punished because one county got handed millions of public money granted by the disgraced Bertie Ahern.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    There teams didn't stop existing. Galway went from no championship to having something to play for and leaving Milltown nearly killed Shamrock Rovers. It took nearly 3 decades for them to recover and only then because they still had some hardcore fans.

    If the GAA merged your county with a other would you still support it?

    None of the people I go to games with would support a rump Dublin. Are you aware of anyone who would support these teams?

    Yes, except it wont be my county which is an artificial division of an invading ruler.

    It will be my team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Yes, except it wont be my county which is an artificial division of an invading ruler.

    It will be my team.

    Fine then let's do an Welsh rugby union on the entire thing, go back to square one. Throw out all the tradition and history. Create 16 franchises no one will give a **** about all to spite Dublin.

    Let's cut off our nose to spite our face like we did in the 80's when Kerry won 4 in a row. Owe wait never mind


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Gachla wrote: »
    Unfortunately, it's got to the stage where it will either be Dublin getting split or other counties merging. I don't see why other counties should get punished because one county got handed millions of public money granted by the disgraced Bertie Ahern.

    Dublin won't be dominant forever. Why can't we raise the standards of other countries instead of trying to tear down Dublin. Regardless of how you think they got where they are now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭ Nidgeweasel


    Pathetic from a Paul Flynn. Needs to have a strong look at where he’s come from and where he’d if he wasn’t such a talented footballer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ Gachla


    Dublin won't be dominant forever. Why can't we raise the standards of other countries instead of trying to tear down Dublin. Regardless of how you think they got where they are now.

    It's not about dominance. Dublin have increased standards across the board but pumping millions of public money into Dublin GAA was and is wrong even if they never won any titles. This is not about tearing anyone down. This is about fair play and letting every county compete on an equal footing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭ LeinsterDub


    Gachla wrote: »
    It's not about dominance. Dublin have increased standards across the board but pumping millions of public money into Dublin GAA was and is wrong even if they never won any titles. This is not about tearing anyone down. This is about fair play and letting every county compete on an equal footing.

    Talk of splitting Dublin up is about tearing down. County's have never competed on an equal footing. No one seriously believes that do they? Pump millions in to every other county for the next two decades if you wish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ Gachla


    Talk of splitting Dublin up is about tearing down. County's have never competed on an equal footing. No one seriously believes that do they? Pump millions in to every other county for the next two decades if you wish

    No it's not. Splitting Dublin is making our games fair, simple as that.
    An equal footing means you compete with what you have. Yes there will always be population differences but there always was. In the 90's and early 00's we had a wide open football championship. Government and sponsorship funding has caused a huge chasm. It needs to be sorted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    Talk of splitting Dublin up is about tearing down. County's have never competed on an equal footing. No one seriously believes that do they? Pump millions in to every other county for the next two decades if you wish

    its really a numbers game, especially the spread of GAA to the southside of Dublin. The money to be made is huge, Northside vs Southside - the equivalent of the "Old Firm" in Glasgow, Chelsea vs Arsenal, City vs United etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog


    Chiparus wrote: »
    its really a numbers game, especially the spread of GAA to the southside of Dublin. The money to be made is huge, Northside vs Southside - the equivalent of the "Old Firm" in Glasgow, Chelsea vs Arsenal, City vs United etc.


    It would have no appeal. I don't know anyone who defines themselves as a "northsider" or "southsider"!

    There is a social divide but it has nothing to do with GAA. Leinster is largely a Dublin middle class phenomenon in rugby. They have almost no support among working class Dubs.

    Besides, it would be surely a dangerous ploy to create some artificial division within a city that has enough problems as it is!

    Main thing is, it would never be accepted by Dublin GAA and if forced, would mean end of popular support for whatever entities emerge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ Gachla


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    It would have no appeal. I don't know anyone who defines themselves as a "northsider" or "southsider"!

    There is a social divide but it has nothing to do with GAA. Leinster is largely a Dublin middle class phenomenon in rugby. They have almost no support among working class Dubs.

    Besides, it would be surely a dangerous ploy to create some artificial division within a city that has enough problems as it is!

    Main thing is, it would never be accepted by Dublin GAA and if forced, would mean end of popular support for whatever entities emerge.

    No one wanted to go down this path but it could be the only option. As I said, why should other counties be forced to merge? They've done nothing wrong. Dublin GAA went to Bertie and took the money. They should be split.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog


    What county are you from?

    Strange that someone so obsessed with Dublin and hatred of Dublin has not one single post anywhere about another county, and yet you pretend to be concerned for the future of the GAA.

    In fact you mostly other than your anti Dublin obsession seem preoccupied with rugby.

    A sport with generations of elitism and anti national in its very genes. A sport in which one of its "stars" took his flute out and p1ssed over someone in a pub.

    Good luck my friend ...

    Oh and I know who i won't be supporting in the "World Cup" :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ Gachla


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    What county are you from?

    Strange that someone so obsessed with Dublin and hatred of Dublin has not one single post anywhere about another county, and yet you pretend to be concerned for the future of the GAA.

    In fact you mostly other than your anti Dublin obsession seem preoccupied with rugby.

    A sport with generations of elitism and anti national in its very genes. A sport in which one of its "stars" took his flute out and p1ssed over someone in a pub.

    Good luck my friend ...

    Oh and I know who i won't be supporting in the "World Cup" :-)

    I asked earlier whether you could refute my posts without deflection or abuse. You've shown that you are incapable of doing so.


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