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Thoughts on an Infinite Multiverse

  • 04-08-2019 5:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭


    If the multiverse exists, and if there is an infinite number of universes in the multiverse, then couldn't it be possible that at least one of them was created by God? A God. And in an infinite multiverse an infinite number of universes would get created by an infinite number of Gods. The thing about infinity is there is always room for more. But that doesn't mean our universe would be one of the godmade ones. So, how would we know? In an infinite number of godless universes what's the likelihood of life and consciousness coming into existence in one of them? And of the godmade universes what's to say the Gods intentions have anything to with life at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    In an infinite universe everything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Havent you seen all those Marvel and DC films?

    Case closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I'm gonna need a bottle of red wine before I answer that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    In an infinite universe everything is possible.


    And in an infinite multiverse even more so...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ever not always


    I'm not saying it was aliens, but...

    [aliens]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    My view. A multiverse may exist. But there can be no way to traverse the multiverses, because if there were any universe could compromise any or all other universes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If there is an infinite number of universes it's guaranteed one at least was made by a god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred


    Duuuuuuuuuuuude


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    kneemos wrote: »
    If there is an infinite number of universes it's guaranteed one at least was made by a god.


    And if at least one then also an infinite amount?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    FFred wrote: »
    Duuuuuuuuuuuude


    Wicked green....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    biko wrote: »
    I'm gonna need a bottle of red wine before I answer that.


    Finished that wine yet?

    Waiting with bated breath....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ever not always


    I suppose first you'd have to define 'god', if he's in one universe why not them all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Last week I was in the kitchen getting a glass of water. My phone rang and I answered it, went back upstairs and left the water on the counter. Finished up the call, did a couple of other things, then got parched, remembered the water and went back down for it.

    It had gotten fairly dark in the meantime. I could see the glass of water on the counter by the sink but decided to turn on the light anyway.

    There was an enormous fcuking slug on the glass, right up on the rim. Couldn't see the cnut without the light on. I really was parched, I was about to take a big gulp straight from the glass.

    Anyways ever since I've been thinking of all the millions of universes where I did not turn that light on and drank a fcuking slug. Big old glug of slug.

    Basically my point, OP, is that I too am pretty high right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    I suppose first you'd have to define 'god', if he's in one universe why not them all?


    Because in an infinite amount of universes there would be just as many not created by god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj



    ...Basically my point, OP, is that I too am pretty high right now.


    At least you're not paranoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,978 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    It all went tits up the moment Glenroe was cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    Actually, yeah, I was pretty stoned last night. Thought I might be a god for a while. Even wrote a poem.


    I hear the angels scream...
    When I'm stoned, stoned, stoned
    The world becomes a dream...
    When I'm stoned, stoned, stoned
    I never love to hate...
    When I'm stoned, stoned,stoned
    It all sounds great...
    When I'm stoned, stoned,stoned




    Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    Yeah but doesn't infinite include an infinite number of possibilities. An infinite number of universes must include an infinite number of ways for a universe to come into existence.


    Oops, post I was answering has disappeared


    See below


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    No I don't think the OP is logically correct.

    If there are infinite universities that does not mean that every universes has to be different from any of the others.

    They could all be exactly the same down to the last molecule but still be an infinite amount of them.

    I think the OP is thinking of infinite possibilities which is a different proposal altogether. That's the stuff of sci-fi.

    hgfj wrote: »
    Yeah but doesn't infinite include an infinite number of possibilities. An infinite number of universes must include an infinite number of ways for a universe to come into existence.


    Oops, post I was answering has disappeared

    Yeah I messed up that post so I stared again. See above.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Consciousness is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    Your Face wrote: »
    Consciousness is all.


    All what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Panthro wrote: »
    It all went tits up the moment Glenroe was cancelled.

    Still going strong in universe 780112

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Only if there's a universe where a man in a red suit visits billions of children in one night to leave them presents readily available in their local toy shop.

    Basically, even in an infinite multiverse rules still apply, and so, no magic will apply, therefore no Super Natural being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    hgfj wrote: »
    Yeah but doesn't infinite include an infinite number of possibilities. An infinite number of universes must include an infinite number of ways for a universe to come into existence.


    Oops, post I was answering has disappeared

    Still there in universe 908. Also, you're a communist unicorn there.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Only if there's a universe where a man in a red suit visits billions of children in one night to leave them presents readily available in their local toy shop.

    Basically, even in an infinite multiverse rules still apply, and so, no magic will apply, therefore no Super Natural being.

    Rules can vary from multiverses, so Santa/God can most definitely exist in some realms.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Rules can vary from multiverses, so Santa/God can most definitely exist in some realms.


    It's possible some rules of physics may change i.e. polarities might change, but magic is not possible, so no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    Only if there's a universe where a man in a red suit visits billions of children in one night to leave them presents readily available in their local toy shop.


    Maybe there is.



    Basically, even in an infinite multiverse rules still apply, and so, no magic will apply, therefore no Super Natural being.


    Different universes, different rules...?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    hgfj wrote: »


    Different universes, different rules...?


    See post 28.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    It's possible some rules of physics may change i.e. polarities might change, but magic is not possible, so no.

    Anything is possible. In one universe all of us could have giant heads. In another Dragons are real. In another universe guys can get pregnant.


    Or things could even be like Doom or Event Horizon where Hell actually exists and it's a nightmare universe of its own that is constantly trying to break into and consume other universes.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    hgfj wrote: »
    Actually, yeah, I was pretty stoned last night. Thought I might be a god for a while. Even wrote a poem.


    I hear the angels scream...
    When I'm stoned, stoned, stoned
    The world becomes a dream...
    When I'm stoned, stoned, stoned
    I never love to hate...
    When I'm stoned, stoned,stoned
    It all sounds great...
    When I'm stoned, stoned,stoned




    Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!

    https://images.app.goo.gl/N61Rir1zKL272koF6

    Heres a dog that looks like Richard Gere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    If a God made a universe he could have any rules he liked. Magic universes everywhere.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anything is possible. In one universe all of us could have giant heads. In another Dragons are real. In another universe guys can get pregnant.


    Or things could even be like Doom or Event Horizon where Hell actually exists and it's a nightmare universe of its own that is constantly trying to break into and consume other universes.


    All of the above are plausible. Men eventually will be able to carry children in this universe. And I can easily imagine a Doom like scenario. But, not a god/god like santa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    kneemos wrote: »
    https://images.app.goo.gl/N61Rir1zKL272koF6

    Heres a dog that looks like Richard Gere.

    In Universe 17, that IS Richard Gere.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    hgfj wrote: »
    If a God made a universe he could have any rules he liked. Magic universes everywhere.


    That's fine if you believe in god and this thread is irrelevant to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All of the above are plausible. Men eventually be able to carry children in this universe. And I can easily imagine a Doom like scenario. But, not a god/god like santa.

    If the conditions exist to create a God/Santa in a realm, then they can exist. Just because it's seen as impossible in this reality does not make it impossible where the right conditions exist in another.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Lay of the weed dude ..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If the conditions exist ...


    Agreed, but my starting position is that these conditions are impossible, even in an infinite universe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    See post 28.


    Which universe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Tammy!




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    hgfj wrote: »
    Which universe?


    Unless you've access to others... :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Agreed, but my starting position is that these conditions are impossible, even in an infinite universe.

    Nothing can be impossible because if something is infinite rules will indefinitely change to such an extent where impossible is not only possible but a reality. A literal realm of where black is white or God's of old exist and thrive. So if conditions exist and are constant for the first 1000universes with only slight changes, those slight changes continue the slope and after a few million universes the change is so great and perplexing, that our understanding of reality of impossible/possible conditions would make zero sense.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Tammy! wrote: »

    Sure Santa can exist if a realm has beings that can interpret time from a non linear perspective.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nothing can be impossible because if something is infinite rules will indefinitely change to such an extent where impossible is not only possible but a reality. A literal realm of where black is white or God's of old exist and thrive. So if conditions exist and are constant for the first 1000universes with only slight changes, those slight changes continue the slope and after a few million universes the change is so great and perplexing, that our understanding of reality of impossible/possible conditions would make zero sense.


    I think we're not going to agree on this. I don't see where physics is going to deviate so much from ours that magic exists. Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭hgfj


    Unless you've access to others... :P


    All depends on what I'm smoking..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Ferajacka


    Eventually there will be universe created where the multiverse won't exist. Thus wiping out all the universes created before that and itself.
    Yes the end days are a coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    If the term 'universe' means everything that exists, how could there be more than one of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I think we're not going to agree on this. I don't see where physics is going to deviate so much from ours that magic exists. Nope.

    Someone invents teleportation,all the kids get sent presents on Christmas morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    antix80 wrote: »
    My view. A multiverse may exist. But there can be no way to traverse the multiverses, because if there were any universe could compromise any or all other universes.

    Ah but there'd also be infinite universes where they are not compromised ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    kneemos wrote: »
    If there is an infinite number of universes it's guaranteed one at least was made by a god.

    One would also be made by a goat! one would also be made by a mouse, in fact an infinite number of them would be made by fluffy kittens....


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