1989 cars now €56 to tax, what would you buy?

Stallingrad

Some nice cars coming into view now with classic tax, I'd be seriously tempted by a 6 cyclinder BMW E34.

Rows Grower

Straight 6 cylinder, 2.6 petrol Automatic 190E Mercedes Benz.

Car99

E30 M3

For Forks Sake

Lancia Delta Integrale it is so

Idbatterim

E56? What a joke! Where did they pull that figure from ? Their ass! Like the e1809 rate and e2350 rate?!

Rows Grower

Idbatterim wrote: »

E56? What a joke! Where did they pull that figure from ? Their ass! Like the e1809 rate and e2350 rate?!

https://www.thejournal.ie/motor-tax-for-vintage-vehicles-1774282-Dec2014/

Miscreant

Idbatterim wrote: »

E56? What a joke! Where did they pull that figure from ? Their ass! Like the e1809 rate and e2350 rate?!

Vehicles registered in 1989 are now 30 years old and qualify for "Vintage" or classic motor tax just like any other one registered before that year.

antodeco

I have 3 cars now with €56 a year tax. I only need another 9 years before my 2.8 becomes €56

Stallingrad

antodeco wrote: »

I have 3 cars now with €56 a year tax. I only need another 9 years before my 2.8 becomes €56

How does the insurance stack up on those classics?

Henry Ford III

Loads of great older cars now in that bracket. Some are reasonably affordable and others are a joke.

Midnight_EG

All budget depending, but I'd be looking at an early R32 GT-R

antodeco

Stallingrad wrote: »

How does the insurance stack up on those classics?

€350 for the year for them all. They are all on limited mileage policies (4k miles per year) which is fine.

RobAMerc

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Loads of great older cars now in that bracket. Some are reasonably affordable and others are a joke.

I think with some fairly modern cars now becoming 30 yo it might only be a matter of time before this rule starts to be abused !

In the meantime, the 56yoyo tax and the 20 yoyo insurance (top up to my existing classic insurance ) means there was literally no good reason my wife could say no to my latest yoke !

Stallingrad

Stallingrad wrote: »

How does the insurance stack up on those classics?

I've a 45yr old bmw ,its 165e a year 3rd party only + 56e tax a year.

blastman

Two years to go before mine is 30, I'm determined to hold it together until then!!

ednwireland

hmmm 1989 you say

what about a saab convertible https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-900-convertible/22485727

or 5 litre merc ? https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-500-se/21524469

um7y1h83ge06nx

1988 Toyota Supra - https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vintage-toyota-supra-3-0i-24v-56-road-tax/22469596

1988 Toyota MR2 - https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-mr2-mk1-t-bar-supercharged-1988/18908453

antodeco

Those MR2's are a thing of beauty. Sums up the 1980s perfectly in one vehicle!

Harry Palmr

w124 3.0 estate in dark green with tan MB-Tex interior with all the trimmings.

supervento

Stallingrad wrote: »

Some nice cars coming into view now with classic tax, I'd be seriously tempted by a 6 cyclinder BMW E34.

Two on donedeal, neither are a manual... but cracking cars all the same....

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/stunning-1989-bmw-535i-se-e34/22578255


Can’t see this one hanging around..


https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1988-bmw-535i-e34-109k-miles-56-annual-road-tax/22581186

I always had a soft spot for a Lotus Esprit Turbo Se.... mmm

MetzgerMeister

supervento wrote: »

Two on donedeal, neither are a manual... but cracking cars all the same....

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/stunning-1989-bmw-535i-se-e34/22578255


Can’t see this one hanging around..


https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1988-bmw-535i-e34-109k-miles-56-annual-road-tax/22581186

I always had a soft spot for a Lotus Esprit Turbo Se.... mmm

That second one needs to be imported. What's the craic with importing a vintage car?

Midnight_EG

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

That second one needs to be imported. What's the craic with importing a vintage car?

He mentions in the advert that it will come taxed and tested so I presume you wouldn't have to worry about it :cool:

supervento

That second one needs to be imported. What's the craic with importing a vintage car?

The Irish Reg number is on the ad..

The zv plate is better than a “ky” but that’s just a personal preference..

twin_beacon

I've always had a soft spot for an MX5.

Stallingrad

Those wheels in the 535 look like Chinese knockoffs of Throwing Stars. Terrible. I'm sure you'd forget about that though every time you push that right pedal.

supervento

Stallingrad wrote: »

Those wheels in the 535 look like Chinese knockoffs of Throwing Stars. Terrible. I'm sure you'd forget about that though every time you push that right pedal.

They do look a bit funny..the style 23 (M Contour) wheels came first day on some of the e36 M3..

James Bond Junior

Stallingrad wrote: »

Those wheels in the 535 look like Chinese knockoffs of Throwing Stars. Terrible. I'm sure you'd forget about that though every time you push that right pedal.

They are called contours not throwing stars. The stars came on the M5 not the M3. The contours came on the M3 evolution.

I have a 99 3 series, only 10 years to go... there can be a massive price premium on the over 30 cars.

rabbitinlights

BMW E34 M5

TrailerBob

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I have a 99 3 series, only 10 years to go... there can be a massive price premium on the over 30 cars.

My thoughts exactly.. as soon as a car qualifies for cheap tax, it triples in asking price.. motor tax being a thing ruins the second hand and classic market to some extent.

Cork Trucker

Imagine in another 21 years a Nissan Leaf will be a 'classic' :rolleyes:

DaveyDave

It would have to be JDM. 1st gen or early 2nd gen MR2. Silvia S13, 180SX etc.

I like the C4 Corvette too, classic boxy 80s interior.

greasepalm

I am just awaiting to fill in my form and reply to them for my vintage mitsubishi chariot import

Cork Trucker

greasepalm wrote: »

I am just awaiting to fill in my form and reply to them for my vintage mitsubishi chariot import

Which version? the one i'm most familiar with is 92-01

mgbgt1978

RobAMerc wrote: »

I think with some fairly modern cars now becoming 30 yo it might only be a matter of time before this rule starts to be abused !

In the meantime, the 56yoyo tax and the 20 yoyo insurance (top up to my existing classic insurance ) means there was literally no good reason my wife could say no to my latest yoke !

I hope you mean "used", rather than "abused" . Don't forget they'll still have to be NCT'ed regularly....not like my 2 pre '80 yokes .

greasepalm

Not the greatest in sex appeal but does more than a car for space.
Car has nct for 2 years.

glynf

Golf Mk2 GTI 16V

Stallingrad

greasepalm wrote: »

Not the greatest in sex appeal but does more than a car for space.
Car has nct for 2 years.

You wait 30 years and go for that?! Jesus wept!

irishgrover

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Imagine in another 21 years a Nissan Leaf will be a 'classic' :rolleyes:

You should buy one now as an investment. I'm sure the price will go through the roof when the tax goes down to 56 for the current outrageous 110 pa

mgbgt1978

Might be an idea though. At least it looks like electricity will still be available in 21 years.
Petrol will probably sold by the cc to specially licenced persons only .

hgfj

Whats the story with getting insurance for an over thirty year old car? Does it depend on the insurer or is there some kind of stipulation that all 30+ cars are cheaper to insure regardless of the insurer? Are all cars over 30 years considered classic? I've got a 1995 Rover with genuine only 70,000 miles on the clock. Only reason I stopped driving it was because my insurance went up from 340 to 980 overnight. When I enquired about it they said the premium went up because it was now over 20 years old.

wonski

hgfj wrote: »

Whats the story with getting insurance for an over thirty year old car? Does it depend on the insurer or is there some kind of stipulation that all 30+ cars are cheaper to insure regardless of the insurer? Are all cars over 30 years considered classic? I've got a 1995 Rover with genuine only 70,000 miles on the clock. Only reason I stopped driving it was because my insurance went up from 340 to 980 overnight. When I enquired about it they said the premium went up because it was now over 20 years old.

Your car isn't 30 years old yet, so who knows what's gonna happen when it is???

980 is not the worst quote I heard when your car is so "unique"

hgfj

Yeah, another 6 years to go. That insurance bump pissed me off though. Just over 70,000 miles on the clock and it still (at the time) had a full NCT. But haven't driven it in almost 4 years. I'm just wondering is it worth hanging onto for another 6 years. It's got a Honda Accord engine in it.

mgbgt1978

hgfj wrote: »

Whats the story with getting insurance for an over thirty year old car? Does it depend on the insurer or is there some kind of stipulation that all 30+ cars are cheaper to insure regardless of the insurer? Are all cars over 30 years considered classic? I've got a 1995 Rover with genuine only 70,000 miles on the clock. Only reason I stopped driving it was because my insurance went up from 340 to 980 overnight. When I enquired about it they said the premium went up because it was now over 20 years old.

It would only be cheaper on a Classic Policy. you would need an Insurance Policy on a 'modern' Car to avail of this. Also there are a limited number of Insurers offering a Classic Policy.
As regards the year it depends on the Car. Normally anything over 30 years old would be eligible, but there are also other Cars which would be considered "Classic" at even 15 years old....normally more exotic (or just rarer) stuff.

BTW if it's a Civic based Rover I wouldn't bother. The equivalent Civic isn't even worth much....and the Rover clone is worth even less.

bunderoon

greasepalm wrote: »

Not the greatest in sex appeal but does more than a car for space.
Car has nct for 2 years.

Was this called a SpaceWagon?

hgfj

Ah, right, so it depends on the insurer then. I'm with Axa now but the previous insurer was AIG. I'll have to give Axa a ring and see what they say.

greasepalm

Stallingrad wrote: »

You wait 30 years and go for that?! Jesus wept!

No as i had it for about 15 years and built like a work horse.

tuxy

hgfj wrote: »

Ah, right, so it depends on the insurer then. I'm with Axa now but the previous insurer was AIG. I'll have to give Axa a ring and see what they say.

AFAIK unlike vintage which is always 30 years or older and qualifies for a lower motor tax rate a classic cars can be any age really and depends on the insurance company. In every offering of classic insurance I know of you need a full policy on sometime more modern also.

This is what axa offers for classic insurance

If your classic car is +25 years old, and you already insure a private car, then you’re eligible for our Classic Car Insurance. We offer 3 levels of cover – Comprehensive, Third Party Fire & Theft or Third Party Only.

https://www.axa.ie/car-insurance/classic-car/

mgbgt1978

bunderoon wrote: »

Was this called a SpaceWagon?

Indeed it was. Made it's main competitor the Datsun/Nissan Praire look sh!te by comparison

greasepalm

bunderoon wrote: »

Was this called a SpaceWagon?

This one was the jap import one and one massive carb under the air filter,my other one was a spacewagon 1982 but the engine went with that so upgraded again to a 2001 spacewagon,5 seats and removed rear seats and added twin subs:eek:

beauf

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Imagine in another 21 years a Nissan Leaf will be a 'classic' :rolleyes:

No charge for that by then...

KevRossi

R129 - last nice looking SL IMHO. Launched in LHD in summer 1989, not so sure when they were first delivered in RHD, but there will be a few coming on the market in the next 2 years or so.