Boy (8) dies after he and mother pushed on train tracks in Germany

mad muffin

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/boy-8-dies-after-he-and-mother-pushed-on-train-tracks-in-germany-1.3970820?mode=amp

This is absolutely horrific. Be careful standing by for a train.

An eight-year-old boy has died after he and his mother were deliberately pushed on to train tracks at Frankfurt’s main railway station, German police have said.

The boy was hit by a high-speed ICE train and killed instantly. His mother was able to roll into a safe gap between two platforms and escaped injury.

The suspect was chased through the station by passengers who managed to tackle him to the ground. Police later confirmed a 40-year-old man of African origin had been arrested.

jam_mac_jam

What a horrible story. That poor woman it doesn't bear thinking about

irishproduce

He tried it on with a third passenger too but that guy fought him back.
Rte says he's Eritrean.

c montgomery

Poor kid.

jaxxx

Well that's murder no matter what way you slice it. How are the German courts with sentencing? If it happened here, he'd probably get a suspended sentence. The poor mother, RIP child

Qrt

I saw it on the German websites before the English media got hold of it, I actually just read it in schock.

NKante

I'm not going to say anything about Merkel's policies.


RIP.

Sonny noggs

Sickening.

Stephen15

Absolutely awful for the family

mad muffin

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What a horrible story. That poor woman it doesn't bear thinking about

No I can’t. I think if it was me I’d rather have died with my boy. Totally horrific.

It comes nine days ago, after a woman who was pushed in front of a regional train by a28 year old from Kosovo.

lawred2

NKante wrote: »

I'm not going to say anything about Merkel's policies.


RIP.

Except that you did

lawred2

Horrible story. Poor woman. Poor kid.

Hope that bastard suffers for the rest of his life

corks finest

NKante wrote:

I'm not going to say anything about Merkel's policies.

I am - shes destroyed Germany

Stephen15

This highlights why the German people should have voted for the AfD

pjohnson

lawred2 wrote: »

Except that you did

Did you expect anything else?

Already turning to the newest immigration thread :pac:

NKante

lawred2 wrote: »

Except that you did

I know, but did it in a nice way.

NKante

corks finest wrote: »

I am - shes destroyed Germany

Not just Germany. Thanks to schengen, the rest of Europe will suffer too.

Harry Palmr

Thread reported, this is just another bash the blacks exercise by racists and xenophobes.

Qrt

Stephen15 wrote: »

This highlights why the German people should have voted for the AfD

Afd would destroy Germany through their WW2 revisionism. They're not just the run of the mill right-wing party, they're actively trying to brush over the horrors of WW2 when it's barely been 80 years. They're free to do that when it hits 800 years, but not when it's still in the memories of many millions of people around the world.

Now, I sense this thread will soon morph from expressions of sympathy to demonisation of entire sects of the human population so I'm unfollowing.

jay1988

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Thread reported, this is just another bash the blacks exercise by racists and xenophobes.

its not really, its discussing the fact that a mother and child were pushed in front of a train, i actually haven't seen skin colour mentioned once in this thread, until you brought it up.

mad muffin

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Thread reported, this is just another bash the blacks exercise by racists and xenophobes.

Is this a joke to you? The death of an 8 year old boy and for the mother to witness it in such a horrific way a joke to you?!

Stephen15

pjohnson wrote: »

Did you expect anything else?

Already turning to the newest immigration thread :pac:

I think immigration is very relevant when the perpetrator of a heinous crime probably shouldn't even be in the country in the first place

NKante

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Thread reported, this is just another bash the blacks exercise by racists and xenophobes.

It's not about race. It's about countries and cultures.

If you import millions of people from countries where violence, illiberal views and corruption are common, then that baggage will travel with the migrants.

When almost a million Russians fled to Israel after the collapse of the Soviet Union, organised crime and corruption suddenly sprang up where barely none had existed before.

And they were white.

batgoat

mad muffin wrote: »

Is this a joke to you? The death of an 8 year old boy and for the mother to witness it in such a horrific way a joke to you?!

Nobody views it as a joke however I have massive issues who are using this as a reason to push their absolutely hateful agendas. Hoping for the rise of the Afd is horrifying in its own right. I hope the man responsible goes away for a long time but it is not a reason to hate large groupings of people.

Kidchameleon

Its very important not to stick our heads in the sand about this. We are letting people into Europe who come from very very different cultures

pjohnson

batgoat wrote: »

Nobody views it as a joke however I have massive issues who are using this as a reason to push their absolutely hateful agendas. Hoping for the rise of the Afd is horrifying in its own right. I hope the man responsible goes away for a long time but it is not a reason to hate large groupings of people.

Bingo.

Harry Palmr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Its very important not to stick our heads in the sand about this. We are letting people into Europe who come from very very different cultures

Which culture is that? The push people under trains culture?

Stephen15

batgoat wrote: »

Nobody views it as a joke however I have massive issues who are using this as a reason to push their absolutely hateful agendas. Hoping for the rise of the Afd is horrifying in its own right. I hope the man responsible goes away for a long time but it is not a reason to hate large groupings of people.

I'm not sure what's so horrifying about hoping for the rise of the AfD. Maybe in your mind wanting to feel safe and secure in ones homeland is horrifying to you.

The Bishop Basher

batgoat wrote: »

I hope the man responsible goes away for a long time but it is not a reason to hate large groupings of people.

It’s possible to be in favor of stricter immigration policies without hating anyone.

NKante

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which culture is that? The push people under trains culture?

People, mainly on the left, seem to think that all cultures are equal.

It's okay to say that some cultures are better than others. We in the west have a better culture than those African tribes in Tanzania that murder Albinos for body parts.

I don't think that's controversial to say.

I'm well aware Europeans mastered brutality too, but if we're talking about here and now, then there's a massive disconnect between the western way of life and that of Islamic countries and parts of Africa.

punisher5112

Germany and their policy to bring anyone in as their population is aging is a terrible idea....

Start incentives where you get women to have slightly larger families and not be fully Carrer driven the way things are going... Please don't take this as I'm saying oh the woman's place is in the home and kitchen as far from that but unfortunately men can't reproduce as in don't have a womb....


Very sad and the poor boy and I feel absolutely terrible for the mother and family and anyone else that had to see that...

In Ireland I don't think people realise how many immigrants are actually here and how much a drain on services they are....

mad muffin

The Bishop Basher wrote: »

It’s possible to be in favor of stricter immigration policies without hating anyone.

That’s a exactly right. Unfettered access without proper vetting isn’t the way to go.

Sardonicat

Stephen15 wrote: »

This highlights why the German people should have voted for the AfD

They tried something similar 80 odd years ago. It didn't end well. For anyone.

Omackeral

This thread isn't about the child and mother at all, is it? Let's at least be honest.

flazio

punisher5112 wrote: »

In Ireland I don't think people realise how many immigrants are actually here and how much a drain on services they are....

Do enlighten us. To the best of my knowledge none of them have tried to kill their hosts, on the contrary a lot of the junior doctors in our hospitals are Muslim.

mad muffin

NKante wrote: »

People, mainly on the left, seem to think that all cultures are equal.

It's okay to say that some cultures are better than others. We in the west have a better culture than those African tribes in Tanzania that murder Albinos for body parts.

I don't think that's controversial to say.

I'm well aware Europeans mastered brutality too, but if we're talking about here and now, then there's a massive disconnect between the western way of life and that of Islamic countries and parts of Africa.

Yeah. Some cultures are at odds with our own. When did it become wrong and inaccurate to say that? And why is it that the west is the one that must capitulate?

Go anywhere in the world and it is up to you to honour the country and culture and it’s customs. Come to the west and it’s okay if you spit on us. We do r mind. As long as you are okay.

You want to come here? That’s great. Welcome. Show papers. Show that you aren’t a criminal. Come in. Now that you are here we probably do somethings differently. Please accustom yourself to our culture. Some tho ha we don’t allow others are very open. Enjoy and please become a productive member of society.

And you know what? 99 percent of immigrants get it and are happy to comply. But when we see the 1 percent that do t. They must be called out. There is no racism in that.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote:

Thread reported, this is just another bash the blacks exercise by racists and xenophobes.

You are a disgrace. Nothing about this thread was bashing 'the blacks' until you decided to be offended by what you made up in your head.

mad muffin wrote:

Is this a joke to you? The death of an 8 year old boy and for the mother to witness it in such a horrific way a joke to you?!

Sadly, he wasn't joking. He saw some people saying how sad the story was, noted the guy who did it was African origin and quickly white knighted and showed how virtuous he was before anyone else could.

batgoat wrote:

Nobody views it as a joke however I have massive issues who are using this as a reason to push their absolutely hateful agendas.

I agree. Harrys hateful agenda that is.

Danzy

Cultural diversity incident.

batgoat

batgoat wrote: »

Nobody views it as a joke however I have massive issues who are using this as a reason to push their absolutely hateful agendas. Hoping for the rise of the Afd is horrifying in its own right. I hope the man responsible goes away for a long time but it is not a reason to hate large groupings of people.

The fact that this crime comes a week or so after a similar crime is interesting. I've no idea why the news reports even mention the nationality of the perpetrator tbh. How is it is relevant to the crime?

That said, as long as mainstream parties ignore the fact that there can be a downside to immigration there will be space for radical parties on the spectrum.

The jury is still out on the mass immigration of the last 5 years imo. I'd like to see an unbiased report on it, not the agenda driven ones by the various right and left commentators.

Stephen15

Sardonicat wrote: »

They tried something similar 80 odd years ago. It didn't end well. For anyone.

This is the usual drivel coming from the left wing playbook that anyone with any sort of anti immigration views are like nazis. Fact is Merkel's open borders policies have destroyed Germany.

SEPT 23 1989

punisher5112 wrote: »

In Ireland I don't think people realise how many immigrants are actually here and how much a drain on services they are....

We.do in West Dublin

But don’t worry it’s in the post for the rest of you in other parts of the country

the ones who like puppets on a string agreed to this will never have to deal with the fallout

mad muffin

punisher5112 wrote: »

Germany and their policy to bring anyone in as their population is aging is a terrible idea....

Start incentives where you get women to have slightly larger families and not be fully Carrer driven the way things are going... Please don't take this as I'm saying oh the woman's place is in the home and kitchen as far from that but unfortunately men can't reproduce as in don't have a womb....


Very sad and the poor boy and I feel absolutely terrible for the mother and family and anyone else that had to see that...

In Ireland I don't think people realise how many immigrants are actually here and how much a drain on services they are....

Yeah I don’t understand that. If your population is aging. And you bring in migrants to replace them. Eventually it’s not really Germany anymore.

Stephen15

flazio wrote: »

Do enlighten us. To the best of my knowledge none of them have tried to kill their hosts, on the contrary a lot of the junior doctors in our hospitals are Muslim.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/czech-man-sentenced-for-rape-and-murder-of-longford-woman-345402.html

steddyeddy

Horrific story and yes I would have rather died than my child in that way. You'd have to be scum to do something like that.

NKante

Omackeral wrote: »

This thread isn't about the child and mother at all, is it? Let's at least be honest.

So do you just want a thread of "RIP" "so sad" etc?

Or do we point out the fact that certain crimes that are becoming more prevalent in Germany are down to the new immigrants.

Another Jewish person assaulted and spat at in Germany yesterday. Two Syrians the culprits.

Is it worth it? was this policy of open doors to the M.E and Africa worth it? time will tell, but so far I'm not hugely impressed with the results.

This is it

jaxxx wrote: »

If it happened here, he'd probably get a suspended sentence.

No, he wouldn't.

Tell me how

NKante wrote: »

So do you just want a thread of "RIP" "so sad" etc?

Or do we point out the fact that certain crimes that are becoming more prevalent in Germany are down to the new immigrants.

Another Jewish person assaulted and spat at in Germany yesterday. Two Syrians the culprits.

Is it worth it? was this policy of open doors to the M.E and Africa worth it? time will tell, but so far I'm not hugely impressed with the results.

So you're admitting you are only using this horrific incident to talk about immigration?

steddyeddy

NKante wrote: »

So do you just want a thread of "RIP" "so sad" etc?

Or do we point out the fact that certain crimes that are becoming more prevalent in Germany are down to the new immigrants.

Another Jewish person assaulted and spat at in Germany yesterday. Two Syrians the culprits.

Is it worth it? was this policy of open doors to the M.E and Africa worth it? time will tell, but so far I'm not hugely impressed with the results.

Well not to be funny but anti-Semitism has generally been more prevalent in the natives than in those they let in the country. The same goes for violent crimes.

mad muffin

Tell me how wrote: »

So you're admitting you are only using this horrific incident to talk about immigration?

That’s disingenuous. But we should be talking about it. And not putting our fingers in our ears singing lalala whilst our eyes are closed. It also means we need to be more vigilant. Just like when you go to a big city like Rome or London and make sure your bag, purse, wallet are extra safe.

punisher5112

flazio wrote: »

Do enlighten us. To the best of my knowledge none of them have tried to kill their hosts, on the contrary a lot of the junior doctors in our hospitals are Muslim.

Where did I say Muslim?

NKante

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well not to be funny but anti-Semitism has generally been more prevalent in the natives than in those they let in the country. The same goes for violent crimes.

Germany was about as safe for Jews in recent decades as a country can get.

Now Jews are advised not to wear identifying clothing or jewellery.


Tell me, how prevalent have mass sex assaults been like the New Year's eve incident in Colonge where literally hundreds of women were targeted and assaulted in an organised fashion?