Ireland u20s 6 Nations and World Championahip 2020

The Lost Sheep

Ireland finished 8th in the 2019 world championship after injuries caught up on the squad where expectations were high after a grand slam in the 6 nations. Pool stage results set us up for 5th to 8th playoff where losses to England and new Zealand meant 8th place.
2020 world championship will be played Italy for the 3rd time in the 13 under 20 tournaments played since then change from under 19/21 to just an under 20 tournament.

The groups for next yours tournament, based on this years results are as follows:
France, Wales, New Zealand, Japan
Australia, England, Ireland, Fiji
South Africa, Argentina, Italy, Georgia

Players eligible for 2020 to already play for the 20s include Thomas Ahearn,Thomas Clarkson, Brian Deeny, David McCann, John McKee, Charlie Ward, Ciaran Booth

The Lost Sheep

Leinster and Ulster development sides playing Friday in Malone. Should hopefully be quite a few 20s prospects involved in this

Chico Flores

I think they should have the teams for the Premier 1 qualifiers by the end of this week.

Wait to see on results etc to see who has who and what league they want to go in.

ArmchairQB

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Leinster and Ulster development sides playing Friday in Malone. Should hopefully be quite a few 20s prospects involved in this

They lost 15-12 last minute penalty by Ulster terrible conditions I don't have any other detail

bilston

ArmchairQB wrote: »

They lost 15-12 last minute penalty by Ulster terrible conditions I don't have any other detail

"They"...you mean Leinster?

Stan27

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ireland finished 8th in the 2019 world championship after injuries caught up on the squad where expectations were high after a grand slam in the 6 nations. Pool stage results set us up for 5th to 8th playoff where losses to England and new Zealand meant 8th place.
2020 world championship will be played Italy for the 3rd time in the 13 under 20 tournaments played since then change from under 19/21 to just an under 20 tournament.

The groups for next yours tournament, based on this years results are as follows:
France, Wales, New Zealand, Japan
Australia, England, Ireland, Fiji
South Africa, Argentina, Italy, Georgia

Players eligible for 2020 to already play for the 20s include Thomas Ahearn,Thomas Clarkson, Brian Deeny, David McCann, John McKee, Charlie Ward, Ciaran Booth

Maloney still of age ?

The Lost Sheep

Stan27 wrote: »

Maloney still of age?

as in Martin? No he isnt

Chico Flores

This has died a death a little, I see the Irish 20s had first get together.

Any ideas on who is involved?

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

This has died a death a little, I see the Irish 20s had first get together.

Any ideas on who is involved?

heard few rumours but nothing more
Probably will be when games come up around Christmas that we see who are involved. Usual against Munster and leinster

Banner2theend

https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/1197573034133073920

typhoony

I see they've completely abandoned Athlone as a venue again for the next 6 nations, home games are down in Cork again. when it the U20's were unfashionable it was fine to have it in Athlone and now with the extra publicity and fame for the u20's it's gone to Cork. just having a rant as I've just discovered there's no Connacht home game over Christmas either, it's a conspiracy I tell you all

The Lost Sheep

typhoony wrote: »

I see they've completely abandoned Athlone as a venue again for the next 6 nations, home games are down in Cork again. when it the U20's were unfashionable it was fine to have it in Athlone and now with the extra publicity and fame for the u20's it's gone to Cork. just having a rant as I've just discovered there's no Connacht home game over Christmas either, it's a conspiracy I tell you all

been quite few years since athlone used. Moved to donnybrook for few years shame as was good to get spread of internationals round at least with it cork it's not Dublin.
Connacht have a game at home before Christmas but not the two between xmas and new years

FrannoFan

typhoony wrote: »

I see they've completely abandoned Athlone as a venue again for the next 6 nations, home games are down in Cork again. when it the U20's were unfashionable it was fine to have it in Athlone and now with the extra publicity and fame for the u20's it's gone to Cork. just having a rant as I've just discovered there's no Connacht home game over Christmas either, it's a conspiracy I tell you all

Pitch was often a mess. think that prompted the move to the 4G in donnybrook and now the 4G in Cork. Be great to see it back out West if Connacht get the 4G into the sportsground.

Stout Warrior

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

heard few rumours but nothing more
Probably will be when games come up around Christmas that we see who are involved. Usual against Munster and leinster

Have you heard anything on this yet?


Any idea if Coleman/Soroka are involved?

Faugheen

Stout Warrior wrote: »

Have you heard anything on this yet?


Any idea if Coleman/Soroka are involved?

Soroka came off injured for the Trinity 20s against Tarf a few weeks back.

Dunno what timescale he was given but he did walk off with help.

The Lost Sheep

Stout Warrior wrote: »

Have you heard anything on this yet?

Any idea if Coleman/Soroka are involved?

there will be nothing until day or two before game and sometimes these games will not have any coverage online.

Locke_Lamora

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

there will be nothing until day or two before game and sometimes these games will not have any coverage online.

Munster usually post a quick highlight video of their game against the u20's, but I don't think Leinster do.

The Lost Sheep

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

Munster usually post a quick highlight video of their game against the u20's, but I don't think Leinster do.

yeah I know. Was at work earlier didnt have time to expand on that. Munster generally will have match report, team news beforehand. Leinster wont.

timothydec77

FrannoFan wrote: »

Pitch was often a mess. think that prompted the move to the 4G in donnybrook and now the 4G in Cork. Be great to see it back out West if Connacht get the 4G into the sportsground.

I would have thought Galway is well served for Rugby compared to Cork.

11 Pro 14 games and 3 European games.While Cork only gets 4 Pro 14 games.

FrannoFan

timothydec77 wrote: »

I would have thought Galway is well served for Rugby compared to Cork.

11 Pro 14 games and 3 European games.While Cork only gets 4 Pro 14 games.

Ideally a game in connacht, Munster, ulster while the 6 nations is in dublin already.

Dubinusa

Wish we could host the u20 rwc. We could use Cork and Galway. It would be great to bring a great competition to Ireland.
I like the venue in Cork. Athlone, the pitch was a mess and Dublin already gets the seniors.

Dubinusa

Any updates on the potential squad?

FellasFellas

Anyone any idea on who played for Leinster Development against the 20's the other day?

Scottmactom

FellasFellas wrote: »

Anyone any idea on who played for Leinster Development against the 20's the other day?

Ronan Loughnane, Fionn Gilbert, Ed Brennan, Cillian Redmond, Mick O’Gara, Josh O’Connor & James Reynolds were a few players involved.

Scottmactom

Dubinusa wrote: »

Any updates on the potential squad?

Most of the players who have been at Irish u20 squad meetups.. Could be missing one or two players:

Prop
Tom Clarkson(Leinster)
Harry Noonan(Leinster)
Charlie Ward(Leinster)
Ryan McMahon(Leinster)
Sam Illo(Leinster)(u19)
Mark Donnelly(Munster)(u19)

Hooker
John McKee(Leinster)
Bobby Sheehan(Leinster)
Tom Stewart(Ulster)(u19)

Lock
Tom Ahern(Munster)
Paddy Kelly(Munster)
Eoin O'Connor(Munster)
Cormac Izuchukwu(Leinster)
Cian Prendergast(Leinster)
Joe McCarthy(Leinster)(u19)

Backrow
Brian Deeny(Leinster)
Anthony Ryan(Leinster)
Mark Hernan(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Alex Soroka(Leinster)(u19)
Cian Hurley(Munster)
Josh Dunne(Connacht)
Lucas Culliton(Connacht)
David McCann(Ulster)

Scrumhalf
Conor McKee(Ulster)(u19)
Ben Murphy(Leinster)(u19)
Lewis Finlay(Ulster)

Outhalf
Jack Crowley(Munster)
Tim Corkery(Leinster)(u19)
Cathal Forde(Connacht)(u19)

Centre
Hayden Hyde(Ulster)
Ben Moxham(Ulster)(u19)
Luis Faria(Leinster)
Harry O' Riordan(Munster)(u19)
Shane Jennings(Connacht) (u19)

Back Three
Niall Comerford(Leinster)
Andrew Smith(Leinster)
Max O'Reilly(Leinster)
Josh O'Connor(Leinster)(u19)
Ethan McIlroy(Ulster)
Conor Rankin(Ulster)(u19)
Diarmuid Kilgallen(Connacht)
Oran McNulty(Connacht)

Lucas44

Scottmactom wrote: »

Most of the players who have been at Irish u20 squad meetups.. Could be missing one or two players:

Prop
Tom Clarkson(Leinster)
Harry Noonan(Leinster)
Charlie Ward(Leinster)
Ryan McMahon(Leinster)
Sam Illo(Leinster)(u19)
Mark Donnelly(Munster)(u19)

Hooker
John McKee(Leinster)
Bobby Sheehan(Leinster)
Tom Stewart(Ulster)(u19)

Lock
Tom Ahern(Munster)
Paddy Kelly(Munster)
Eoin O'Connor(Munster)
Cormac Izuchukwu(Leinster)
Cian Prendergast(Leinster)
Joe McCarthy(Leinster)(u19)

Backrow
Brian Deeny(Leinster)
Anthony Ryan(Leinster)
Mark Hernan(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Alex Soroka(Leinster)(u19)
Cian Hurley(Munster)
Josh Dunne(Connacht)
Lucas Culliton(Connacht)
David McCann(Ulster)

Scrumhalf
Conor McKee(Ulster)(u19)
Ben Murphy(Leinster)(u19)
Lewis Finlay(Ulster)

Outhalf
Jack Crowley(Munster)
Tim Corkery(Leinster)(u19)
Cathal Forde(Connacht)(u19)

Centre
Hayden Hyde(Ulster)
Ben Moxham(Ulster)(u19)
Luis Faria(Leinster)
Harry O' Riordan(Munster)(u19)
Shane Jennings(Connacht) (u19)

Back Three
Niall Comerford(Leinster)
Andrew Smith(Leinster)
Max O'Reilly(Leinster)
Josh O'Connor(Leinster)(u19)
Ethan McIlroy(Ulster)
Conor Rankin(Ulster)(u19)
Diarmuid Kilgallen(Connacht)
Oran McNulty(Connacht)

Be interesting to see how izuchukwu gets on in the row, played for roscrea seniors two years ago at 13, presumably the 7s development as a forward will be critical

theVersatile

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/12/27/mcnamara-names-ireland-under-20-team-to-face-munster-development/



Ireland Under-20s (v Munster Development):
15. Oran McNulty (Corinthians RFC / Connacht)
14. Ethan McIlroy (Queens RFC / Ulster)
13. Harry O’Riordan (UCC RFC / Munster)
12. Hayden Hyde (Ballynahinch RFC / Ulster)
11. Andrew Smith (Clontarf FC / Leinster)
10. Jack Crowley (Cork Constitution FC / Munster)
9. Lewis Finlay (Malone RFC / Ulster)

1. Marcus Hannan (Old Belvedere RFC / Leinster)
2. Tom Stewart (Ballynahinch RFC / Ulster)
3. Tom Clarkson (Dublin University FC / Leinster)(captain)
4. Brian Deeny (Clontarf FC / Leinster)
5. Thomas Ahern (Shannon RFC / Munster)
6. Sean O’Brien (UCD RFC / Leinster)
7. Mark Hernan (Lansdowne FC / Leinster)
8. Joshua Dunne (Galwegians RFC / Connacht).

Replacements:

16. John McKee (Old Belvedere / Leinster)
17. Harry Noonan (Old Wesley RFC / Leinster)
18. Charlie Ward (Clontarf FC / Leinster)
19. Joe McCarthy (Dublin University FC / Leinster)
20. Alex Soroka (Dublin University FC / Leinster)
21. Conor McKee (Queens RFC / Ulster)
22. Cathal Forde (Corinthians RFC / Connacht)
23. Diarmuid Kilgallen (Galwegians RFC / Connacht)
24. Max O’Reilly (Dublin University FC / Leinster).

No Munster team named as of yet

The Lost Sheep

Munster team named.
Jamie Shanahan; Ronan Quinn, Tommy Downes, Jack Delaney, Seán French; Alan Tynan, Charlie O’Doherty; Mark Donnelly, Eoghan Clarke, James French; Eoin O’Connor, Paddy Kelly; Cian Hurley(C), Anthony Ryan, Daniel Okeke.

Replacements from: Kieran O’Shea, Aaron Hennessy, Ciaran Ryan, Liam Bishop, Adrian Brien, Amhlaoibh Porter, Farrell O’Donoghue, Ben Murphy, Tim Corkery, Killian Coughlan, Louis Bruce.

The Lost Sheep

Quite a few under 20s playing for Munster obviously with a few not from province on the bench such as Ben Murphy

O Doherty at scrum half is a real good player. Big guy for a 9. Played quite a bit at 10 or 12 for his club at age grade. Eoin O Connor is a real good second row and would be interesting if he and ahearn form an all Waterford partnership for Ireland at any stage this year

The Lost Sheep

Also could a mod change thread title and fix spelling error. Been up 6 months but still.

Lucas44

Anyone at the game today?

Granny15

Andrew Smiths hattrick helped ireland U20 to a 43-27 over Munster development in Cork this afternoon. Only 5 weeks to the beginning of 6 Nations U20’s

The Lost Sheep

20s hoping to play Cork Con ahead of 6 nations which would be good test down in Musgrave

Next training camp in fota January 20th

Scottmactom

Irish 20's forwards preview

LH Prop
Harry Noonan(Greystone RFC/Old Wesley)
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere)
Mark Donnelly(CBC/Shannon) - u19

Noonan likely to start first game, don't think there is much between him and Hanan be interested to see how both perform. Donnelly looks 3rd choice and may be called upon if theres injuries at the position.

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC)
Charlie Ward(Tullow RFC/Clontarf)
Ryan McMahon(Clongowes/Old Belvedere)

Clarkson returns and could captain side.. Was excellent last season as a u19 and will hope to continue that fork this season. Ward got a few caps last summer during the JWC and can cover both sides of scrum. McMahon is an impressive physical prospect but there I'd have concerns over his scrummaging and discipline.

Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere)
Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes/UCD)
Tom Stewart(BRA/Ballynahinch) - u19

Some concern around this position in regards to line out throwing, Stewart offers the most around the pitch and that could be the difference maker. McKee returns from last season and needs a big season. Sheehan impressed playing AIL last season for UCD as a 18 year old, built like his brother Dan if given an opportunity at this level may surprise.

Lock
Tom Ahern(Dungarvan RFC/Shannon)
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Eoin O'Connor(Waterpark RFC/Young Munster)
Paddy Kelly(St. Munchins/Garryowen)
Cian Prendergast(Newbridge/UCD)
Cormac Izuchukwu(Roscrea/Old Wesley)
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - u19

Ahern and Deeny both return after getting capped last summer during the RWC. Deeny could playing 6 but looks more likely to play 4 with Ahern at 5. Both are big athletic players who are a long way from filling out threir frames. O'Connor and Kelly are more physically developed but not as good athletes.. Interested to see who gets the bench spot between them first time up. Prendergast is a lock/blindside and this versatility could earn him a place on the bench. Izuchukwu is top tier athlete who has been playing 7's since last season, he played 13 in school and is very much a player in development at lock. Finally McCarthy is a player who emerged last season while playing for Blackrock, he almost immediately played AIL out of school and while it would be a surprise if he played during the 6 nations due to the depth at the position its only a matter of time before he gets 20s caps.

Backrow
David McCann(RBAI/Banbridge)
Sean O'Brien(Blackrock/UCD)
Mark Hernan(St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
Anthony Ryan(Clongowes/DUFC)
Josh Dunne(Exile/Galwegians)
Lucas Culliton(Roscrea/???)
Cian Hurley(CBC Cork/Garryowen)
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/DUFC) - u19

David McCann returns and the versatile backrow could line up at any of the three positions in the backrow, although I think he could feature at 8 early on. Sean O'Brien is a classic blindside but is capable of covering at 8 also.. Mark Hernan emerged last season captaining st. Micheal's to SCT glory he is a classic openside and while needing to bulkup could get the 1st shot at starting at 7. Anthony Ryan can cover all three backrow positions but looks like Hernans main competition at openside, Ryan is physically much larger than Hernan and this could be a factor when facing bigger packs. Josh Dunne is an exile who joined Connacht last season, he appears to be a classic number 8.. Culliton is an openside who while raw is apparently an excellent athlete. Cian Hurley is a 6/8 who looks more likely to feature at blindside for the 20s if selected. Finally Alex Soroka has played 2nd row, 6 and 8 this season and could feature for the 20s at 6 this season.

theVersatile

English and Scottish 20s squads named.

The Lost Sheep

theVersatile wrote: »

English and Scottish 20s squads named.

have you a link to Scottish squad? English us below
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/dickens-names-32-man-england-u20-eps

FellasFellas

Scottmactom wrote: »

Irish 20's forwards preview

LH Prop
Harry Noonan(Greystone RFC/Old Wesley)
Marcus Hanan(Clane RFC/Old Belvedere)
Mark Donnelly(CBC/Shannon) - u19

Noonan likely to start first game, don't think there is much between him and Hanan be interested to see how both perform. Donnelly looks 3rd choice and may be called upon if theres injuries at the position.

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC)
Charlie Ward(Tullow RFC/Clontarf)
Ryan McMahon(Clongowes/Old Belvedere)

Clarkson returns and could captain side.. Was excellent last season as a u19 and will hope to continue that fork this season. Ward got a few caps last summer during the JWC and can cover both sides of scrum. McMahon is an impressive physical prospect but there I'd have concerns over his scrummaging and discipline.

Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere)
Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes/UCD)
Tom Stewart(BRA/Ballynahinch) - u19

Some concern around this position in regards to line out throwing, Stewart offers the most around the pitch and that could be the difference maker. McKee returns from last season and needs a big season. Sheehan impressed playing AIL last season for UCD as a 18 year old, built like his brother Dan if given an opportunity at this level may surprise.

Lock
Tom Ahern(Dungarvan RFC/Shannon)
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf)
Eoin O'Connor(Waterpark RFC/Young Munster)
Paddy Kelly(St. Munchins/Garryowen)
Cian Prendergast(Newbridge/UCD)
Cormac Izuchukwu(Roscrea/Old Wesley)
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - u19

Ahern and Deeny both return after getting capped last summer during the RWC. Deeny could playing 6 but looks more likely to play 4 with Ahern at 5. Both are big athletic players who are a long way from filling out threir frames. O'Connor and Kelly are more physically developed but not as good athletes.. Interested to see who gets the bench spot between them first time up. Prendergast is a lock/blindside and this versatility could earn him a place on the bench. Izuchukwu is top tier athlete who has been playing 7's since last season, he played 13 in school and is very much a player in development at lock. Finally McCarthy is a player who emerged last season while playing for Blackrock, he almost immediately played AIL out of school and while it would be a surprise if he played during the 6 nations due to the depth at the position its only a matter of time before he gets 20s caps.

Backrow
David McCann(RBAI/Banbridge)
Sean O'Brien(Blackrock/UCD)
Mark Hernan(St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
Anthony Ryan(Clongowes/DUFC)
Josh Dunne(Exile/Galwegians)
Lucas Culliton(Roscrea/???)
Cian Hurley(CBC Cork/Garryowen)
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/DUFC) - u19

David McCann returns and the versatile backrow could line up at any of the three positions in the backrow, although I think he could feature at 8 early on. Sean O'Brien is a classic blindside but is capable of covering at 8 also.. Mark Hernan emerged last season captaining st. Micheal's to SCT glory he is a classic openside and while needing to bulkup could get the 1st shot at starting at 7. Anthony Ryan can cover all three backrow positions but looks like Hernans main competition at openside, Ryan is physically much larger than Hernan and this could be a factor when facing bigger packs. Josh Dunne is an exile who joined Connacht last season, he appears to be a classic number 8.. Culliton is an openside who while raw is apparently an excellent athlete. Cian Hurley is a 6/8 who looks more likely to feature at blindside for the 20s if selected. Finally Alex Soroka has played 2nd row, 6 and 8 this season and could feature for the 20s at 6 this season.

Great post.

I'd agree about McMahon, cant see him getting any time in the side, he'd get destroyed in an international and is prone to losing the head.

Culliton captained CCR last season as a loosehead lock, interesting to see him move to 7, wouldn't think he'd be the finished article there yet.

theVersatile

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

have you a link to Scottish squad? English us below
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/dickens-names-32-man-england-u20-eps

https://m.imgur.com/fBkyKwW

Here you go Sheep. Can't find a text version which is slightly annoying - found the image on another site this morning. Any ideas about that FORSOC academy mentioned in the bottom left with the stars? Any names stand out in general?

Squidgy Black

theVersatile wrote: »

https://m.imgur.com/fBkyKwW

Here you go Sheep. Can't find a text version which is slightly annoying - found the image on another site this morning. Any ideas about that FORSOC academy mentioned in the bottom left with the stars? Any names stand out in general?

It's the Scottish rugby academy system.

Lucas44

FellasFellas wrote: »

Great post.

I'd agree about McMahon, cant see him getting any time in the side, he'd get destroyed in an international and is prone to losing the head.

Culliton captained CCR last season as a loosehead lock, interesting to see him move to 7, wouldn't think he'd be the finished article there yet.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie Ward starts loosehead and if Daniel okeke is involved would add considerable beef to the backrow

Scottmactom

Lucas44 wrote: »

Wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie Ward starts loosehead and if Daniel okeke is involved would add considerable beef to the backrow

Okeke has a load to work on to make next year's 20s side.. Very much a project and not involved with the wider 20s squad.

Can't see Ward playing LH unless injury or Noonan/Hanan struggle in the scrum massively to lock down scrum.

Scottmactom

Scrumhalf
Lewis Finlay(Down HS/Malone)
Conor McKee(Sullivan/Queens) - u19
Ben Murphy(Pres Bray/Clontarf) - u19

A lot of question marks at this position it appears Finlay looks to be 1st choice at the moment but how highly he is rated seems to be anyone's guess. Below that McKee and Murphy were the top two scrum halves on last year's Ireland u18 side. Both have played some AIL and currently look to be competing for the bench spot behind finlay.

Outhalf
Jack Crowley(Bandon/Cork Con)
Tim Corkery(Kilkenny RFC/UCD) - u19
Cathal Forde(Corinthians) - u19

Crowley is clearly the 1st choice here and will be a key player for the 20s to be successful. Meanwhile Tim Corkery and Cathal Forde both are involved in the 20s squad which would have been considered a surprise at the start of the season. Corkery especially has came from nowhere this season, first leading Leinster u19 to interpro success and then appearing for Leinster A in the Celtic Cup. Two seasons ago the starting 10s for Ireland u18 were Paddy McKenzie and Dylan Prendergast neither of whom seem to have made step up outside of schools rugby. Cathal Forde was involved in the 2nd Ireland u18 side last season and it will be interesting to see if he or Corkery are the sub 10 first game up.

Centre
Hayden Hyde(Exile/Ballynahinch)
Luis Faria(Wanderers/DUFC)
Harry O'Riordan(CBC Cork/UCC) - u19
Shane Jennings(Garbally/Ballinasloe) - u19
Ben Moxham(Ballymena) - u19

An interesting mix of players Here, Hyde looks to be a key player who will line up at 12 and Ireland will rely on heavily in midfield. After him it's a matter of who fits best next to him at 13. Jennings is a minor GAA star who Connacht have managed to get away from Galway hurling.. He is raw but an excellent athlete. I don't know much about Moxham, who has came through the Ulster club scene. Faria came through the Leinster club game and while not a big name has consistently been picked at 13 for Leinster underage sides. Finally O'Riordan may be in pole position for the 13 spot, he featured their last season for Ireland u18 and it will be interesting to see how he goes if given the nod first game up.

Back Three
Max O'Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC)
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf)
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD)
Ethan McIlroy(Methody/Queens)
Oran McNulty(Exile/Corinthians)
Diarmuid Kilgallen(Roscrea/Galwegians)
Josh O'Connor(Wexford/UCD) - u19
Conor Rankin(Campbell/Ballynahinch) - u19

Max O'Reilly returns from last years JWC but isn't assured of a starting position in this back three. A more natural 15 he looks to be competing again McNulty and Rankin for that position with McNulty looking favourite to win out. On the wings it looks likely it will be Smith and McIlroy who both look to be in good form and are highly rated within their respective provinces. Comerford, Kilgallen and O'Connor are primarily wingers and it will be interesting to see who will be called upon first if required. Should mention Aaron Sexton will likely be missing due to Irish 7's duty.

FellasFellas

Lucas44 wrote: »

Wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie Ward starts loosehead and if Daniel okeke is involved would add considerable beef to the backrow

Okeke is really not great, saw him for U19 this summer gone and while he can do great things in attack, he goes missing in games and his workrate and skillset is nowhere near 20's standard.

Lucas44

FellasFellas wrote: »

Okeke is really not great, saw him for U19 this summer gone and while he can do great things in attack, he goes missing in games and his workrate and skillset is nowhere near 20's standard.

Is currently training with the munster seniors after featuring for their development team vs Ireland 20s so must be doing something right, Oisín McCormack from garbally could well be the starting 7 come jwc, missed all of summer up until Christmas out with injury but was very good for Irish schools last year and was an injury reserve for last years jwc as an u18 sixth year

theVersatile

Lucas44 wrote: »

and was an injury reserve for last years jwc as an u18 sixth year

I find this unlikely considering the JWC runs throughout the Leaving Certificate. If he was 5th year (like Alex Kendellan was say for example) that would make sense.

The Lost Sheep

Some highlights from Munster game
https://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic_news/highlights-munster-a-development-v-ireland-u20s

Lucas44

theVersatile wrote: »

I find this unlikely considering the JWC runs throughout the Leaving Certificate. If he was 5th year (like Alex Kendellan was say for example) that would make sense.

Not st all unlikely Craig Casey travelled the year he did his leaving cert to Georgia to accelerate his development.. not to mention players from years before did their exams during the jwc, Nathan doak looks to be in camp with 20s atm, in the video put up on Instagram there

The Lost Sheep

Lucas44 wrote: »

Is currently training with the munster seniors after featuring for their development team vs Ireland 20s so must be doing something right, Oisín McCormack from garbally could well be the starting 7 come jwc, missed all of summer up until Christmas out with injury but was very good for Irish schools last year and was an injury reserve for last years jwc as an u18 sixth year

did he actually travel though.
Really shouldn't be impacting LC.. pick u18s if not involved in exams.
McCormack is Ballinasloe rfc as much as school... they play as much in club as the school.

Hands Like Flippers

Lucas44 wrote: »

Not st all unlikely Craig Casey travelled the year he did his leaving cert to Georgia to accelerate his development.. not to mention players from years before did their exams during the jwc, Nathan doak looks to be in camp with 20s atm, in the video put up on Instagram there

You sure its Doak u19? Looked like McKee u19 and Finlay u20 to me.

Scottmactom

Doaks not involved.

Scrumhalves in at the moment are Finlay, Murphy and McKee.

Lucas44

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

You sure its Doak u19? Looked like McKee u19 and Finlay u20 to me.

Look at the start of the video during the meeting, he didn’t train but was in camp