F1 2019 - Round 11 Germany

Harika

Early thread as we are all busy and hyped up after Austria and UK
Heatwave is going on with thunderstorms predicted on the weekend.

Live on Sky

Sessions
Friday – 10:00 to 11:30 – Practice 1
Friday – 14:00 to 15:30 – Practice 2
Saturday – 11:00 to 12:00 – Practice 3
Saturday – 13:00 to 14:00 – Qualifying
Sunday – 14:10 to 16:10 – Race

https://www.accuweather.com/en/de/hockenheim/68766/weather-forecast/167282

skipper_G

Tyre selections for Germany

https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1151160933110226944

Burkie1203

High temps forecast could make this one interesting

Charlie-Bravo

Unusual to see drivers taking 4 of the mediums, normally its just a handful taking three. Maybe Kyvat and Hulk know something with just one set of the mediums!! :eek:

Hopefully a great race with temps so high the tyres hit the cliff early and without real warning.

d8491prj5boyvg

How will Mercedes fare in a race with similar high temperatures to Austria?

Charlie-Bravo

I think atmospheric conditions not being too high in the sky shouldn't affect them as much.

d8491prj5boyvg

astrofluff wrote: »

I think atmospheric conditions not being too high in the sky shouldn't affect them as much.

Ah, so it is altitude as opposed to heat that they have trouble with? Interesting!

Charlie-Bravo

It could very well have been both factors. Take one away and it won't be as bad for Merc. Mexico is also a very high race so it may be telling at that race also.

pjohnson

Only FP1 but the new Williams seems an improvement. Kubica wasnt too far behind Giovinazzi and decently ahead of Russell. The semi-new Racing Point not to bad either both only ran on the mediums.




Edit.


Forgot to mention Grosjean's Haas (Australian spec) beats Magnussen again. Haas have been making their car worse since Australia.

chicorytip

pjohnson wrote:

Only FP1 but the new Williams seems an improvement. Kubica wasnt too far behind Giovinazzi and decently ahead of Russell. The semi-new Racing Point not to bad either both only ran on the mediums.

Russell running with the upgrades in FP2, slightly ahead of Kubica but a second adrift of Gio.

Inquitus

Forecast to be a lot cooler over the weekend with a possibility of rain, so not much can be read into the high temp running today!

Joeface

No rain ,Vettel voted against that this year ...

Jordan 199

Vettel paying tribute to Bernd Schneider this weekend. That helmet looks great.

tipp_tipp_tipp

look who showed up;

Charlie-Bravo

Track limits being enforced now for turns 1 and 17. If any part of the car goes beyond the kerb your time gets deleted. That'll make for a very confusing qualy.

skipper_G

astrofluff wrote: »

Track limits being enforced now for turns 1 and 17. If any part of the car goes beyond the kerb your time gets deleted. That'll make for a very confusing qualy.

It's good they're enforcing the limit, will reward the drivers who get it right and punish mistakes.

The ferrari looks quick but I can't escape the feeling Mercedes are holding something back

Dont be at yourself

astrofluff wrote: »

Track limits being enforced now for turns 1 and 17. If any part of the car goes beyond the kerb your time gets deleted. That'll make for a very confusing qualy.

Going to see lots of stewards action again, hurray.

pjohnson

Its a start I guess. Prefer those sausage kerbs to really punish them but hey ho.

skipper_G

Vettel with some engine problem sitting in the garage without a time on the board, chance of going out in Q1

skipper_G

Ferrari must be cursed or something, Vettel out

Grim.

skipper_G wrote: »

Ferrari must be cursed or something, Vettel out

inept is the word you're looking for i think

skipper_G

Grim. wrote: »

inept is the word you're looking for i think

Yeah that too

skipper_G

A quarter of a second separating 3rd form the drop zone. This is crazy, anybody could go out

skipper_G

Both Racing Points into Q2, hallelujah the upgrades have helped.

Norris out is surprising

Cool_CM

Have to feel for Seb. Hope he can get over it and go balls to the wall tomorrow

skipper_G

Verstappen now with an engine problem, bummer he was in the mix

Edit: he's on track, good news

skipper_G

Five different teams eliminated in Q2, the midfield fight is insanely tight

Rossi IRL

Work being done on Leclerc now during Q3

lolie

skipper_G wrote: »

Five different teams eliminated in Q2, the midfield fight is insanely tight

Wow, only 0.033 between Hulk in 8th and Ricciardo in 13th.

Cool_CM

And LeClerc too, FFS

Rossi IRL

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Work being done on Leclerc now during Q3

And he is out

Incompetent team

ScrubsfanChris

Commentary calling it bad luck for Ferrarri

At some point it stops being bad luck and just ineptitude, and that point was some time ago now.
Unacceptable

skipper_G

Jesus wept, Ferrari just cannot execute a clean weekend.

d8491prj5boyvg

Ferrari are a done duck at this stage. Long live Max and Red Bull as the new challengers.

skipper_G

Hamilton pole, shout out to Ferrari for making it happen

lolie

Another race over before it's even begun.
It's like an neverending nightmare for ferari

skipper_G

Karun Chandhok at least is honest and not fobbing it off as bad luck but bad preparation

Inviere

Gutted for Seb, I'd really love to see him have a solid weekend and to grab a win (mad to think I'm writing that after I used to loathe seeing him waving that finger every two weeks at RB some years back). Charles must be wondering what's going on at this stage, his ticket to the top was a ticket to the top of a shit show.

Hugely impressed by Red Bull, issues aside, they seem to have caught up with Ferrari and are almost trading blows with Merc. I know they're a psuedo-works team by now, but they're not a constructor, and for such a team to be doing what they're doing in this climate of constructors, it's amazing.

pjohnson

Charles must wish he stayed at Alfa.

flazio

pjohnson wrote: »

Charles must wish he stayed at Alfa.

Doubt it. There is still a race win available if someone would just kick Ferrari up the arse. He's also higher on the table then Raikonnen and Giovinazzi.

AMKC

Just seen the Channel 4 highlights now. That was a great qualifying session must say. Very exciting and very close. Just a pity Ferrari have become so inept and bad. I can see Red Bull passing Ferrari out if it keeps going like this.

flazio

Toto saying Lewis has a dose. Might not be able to race tomorrow.

Jordan 199

Well done to Kimi for qualifying fifth :cool:

dublinman1990

Ferrari are really going through the pits with their cars failing at crucial stages throughout the season. It's awful to see both drivers on their team being knocked out of the Q1 sessions at their own home grand prixs. I don't know if that non-qualification has happened with other F1 teams before. Although; tomorrow's race could have an massive opportunity for LeClerc to go up for the win if LH is officially not well enough to take part in the race tomorrow.

If Ferrari have the opportunity to do much better in managing to finish a race tomorrow; then I would be a happy man. LeClerc does the upper hand here in being placed 10 above Vettel in the race tomorrow. But it does not prevent the thinking in my head of the awful season that they have had this year.

d8491prj5boyvg

flazio wrote: »

Toto saying Lewis has a dose. Might not be able to race tomorrow.

Has or is?

AMKC

Sonny Lazy Flame wrote: »

Has or is?

He has a dose. Had it before he got into the car today. Lewis said he had never missed a race and was not going to miss this one dose or no dose.

Joeseph Balls

Lewis will race tomo.
A dose for Lewis is probably a sniffle for the rest of us.

d8491prj5boyvg

AMKC wrote: »

He has a dose. Had it before he got into the car today. Lewis said he had never missed a race and was not going to miss this one dose or no dose.

And here was me hoping Wolff had suddenly become very frank about his number 1 driver :pac:

chicorytip

lolie wrote:

Another race over before it's even begun. It's like an neverending nightmare for ferari

A victory for Leclerc tomorrow is quite possible even from tenth on the grid. The much slower Perez, Sainz, Grosjean, Hulkenberg and Raikkonen should be dispatched pretty quickly and then challenge the top three. It would demonstrate title winning credentials were he to do so. Vettel will be on a charge as well and could finish in the top five. Gasly and Bottas are both vunerable.

Itssoeasy

It could be an interesting race later as it’s pissing rain at the track and the super cup race has just been red flagged before the end.

cherryghost

Yes, lashing rain atm, might be a temp clearance but more heavy showers expected

I swear if I see delayed race or start under a safety car for little standing water I'll go mad