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If you were dictator of Ireland

  • 19-07-2019 9:08am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    First I'd kill all the other dictators (that's you and see below)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    First I'd kill all the other dictators (that's you and see below)

    Much like Highlander. There can only be one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Free biscuits for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭jarvis


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??


    I thought there would be rules to abide by. I didn’t realize you meant pretend you had an unlimited never ending pot of cash. Free houses and free money for everyone!!! As much as they want.
    Best dictator EVER!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 473 ✭✭Pissartist


    No more dole or rent for any junkie that does not get clean within a 2 month period,
    after that weekly drug tests, and if they fail once, never again to get any benefits.
    No injecting dens and pubs to open any day they like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'd introduce conscription.

    At 16 or 17 years of age, every person would have to do 500 hours in a community focused role, assisting care workers, landscaping public spaces, picking up rubbish, working in a charity etc.

    It would help them realise the best way to contribute to society and they'd demand politicians who supported this when they start to vote.


    Can I just thank the OP for publishing a list of things which I always suspected he'd support but wasn't sure which order he'd put them in. It's good to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??

    Surely you;d get rid of ALL TDs? - I mean, if you're a dictator you, what do you need law makers for? Similarly, 2and 19 are kind of a given.

    Your drug laws are a bit contradictory. How are you defining a "junkie"?

    Also, what is "anti-social behaviour"? (Specifcially, not by definition, and not just examples of)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    . . . 1. Cut the number of TDs in half . . .
    If you were dictator, surely there'd be no point in having any TDs at all?

    Or are you just keeping half of them so there'll be well-paying jobs with no actual duties attached for your friends and family (which after all is a significant consideration for most dictators)?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pissartist wrote: »
    No more dole or rent for any junkie that does not get clean withing a 2 month period,
    after that weekly drug tests, and if they fail once, never again to get any benefits.
    No injecting dens and pubs to open any day they like.

    *Looks at username*

    I assume that goes for alcoholics too? Or is it just the drugs you don't like?

    And by pubs being allowed to open any day they like, you mean, Christmas Day? That's the only day they are closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    Allow the Irish people the moral right to determine their own future in regards to their own interests and identity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Surely you;d get rid of ALL TDs? - I mean, if you're a dictator you, what do you need law makers for? Similarly, 2and 19 are kind of a given.

    Your drug laws are a bit contradictory. How are you defining a "junkie"?

    Also, what is "anti-social behaviour"? (Specifcially, not by definition, and not just examples of)

    Someone that is addicted to cocaine/heroin. For examples see the boardwalk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Allow the Irish people the moral right to determine their own future in regards to their own interests and identity.

    Same as we have now so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Another mental masturbation thread for AH.

    "I'd cut the dole."

    "Don't stop."

    "No more social housing."

    "I'm almost there!"

    "Then I'd kill all the homeless."

    "Aww yeeeeeah!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Another mental masturbation thread for AH.

    "I'd cut the dole."

    "Don't stop."

    "No more social housing."

    "I'm almost there!"

    "Then I'd kill all the homeless."

    "Aww yeeeeeah!"

    Yeah, except no one said any of that. :rolleyes: Good contribution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Yeah, except no one said any of that. :rolleyes: Good contribution.

    Only a few posts so far. People don't want to blow their loads too early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭crustyjuggler


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??


    Hello Adolf . Welcome to the forum .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    Same as we have now so?

    Id say thats very far from what we have now. The goverment do not act with the best interests of the Irish people at heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I would simply put the relevant experts in charge, although they would have to answer to a regulator of some kind. No more vote seeking eegits in charge of public policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Id say thats very far from what we have now. The goverment do not act with the best interests of the Irish people at heart.

    If only we, the Irish people, had a way to remove this government and put one in place who would work in our interests.

    How would you even begin to decide such a system? I'm racking my brains here....

    Give me a minute. I think you're on to something.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Id say thats very far from what we have now. The goverment do not act with the best interests of the Irish people at heart.

    Comedy gold. A government that acts in the best interests of its people. :pac::pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    If only we, the Irish people, had a way to remove this government and put one in place who would work in our interests.

    How would you even begin to decide such a system? I'm racking my brains here....

    Give me a minute. I think you're on to something.

    Vote in Fianna Fail or a gang of deranged leftists at the next election. Spoiled for choice. We need a proper nationalist party that will put our people and our country first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Vote in Fianna Fail or a gang of deranged leftists at the next election. Spoiled for choice. We need a proper nationalist party that will put our people and our country first.

    No. What you need is to convince the majority of the people that the nationalist (debatable anyway) parties which do exist will be a better option than what we usually select.

    You're not mad because we don't have a good way of selecting a government. You're mad because you just want it to be your way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    If I were dictator both would be gone.
    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    I’d keep this and be this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    1 Bring in euthanasia
    2 put a motorway from carlow to mullingar, so Waterford kilkenny carlow portlaois tullamore athlone and mullingar are connected much better, and have a proper attempt at decentralisation.
    3 high rise is Dublin in the appropriate places (should be no limit on the dock lands for example)
    4 legalise drugs and sex workers. Will happen anyway, at least we can control it, plus less money for gangs.
    5 invest more into social programs/ amenities for poor areas.
    6 give Gp,s more power so a+e will be used only is needed.
    7 help families who want to adopt. Loads are willing.
    8 teach Irish properly in schools, and ban religion from schools also.
    9 ban energy drinks for under 18,s
    10 people who arnt pulling their weight in public sector jobs, get rid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    No. What you need is to convince the majority of the people that the nationalist (debatable anyway) parties which do exist will be a better option than what we usually select.

    You're not mad because we don't have a good way of selecting a government. You're mad because you just want it to be your way.

    The National Party are too extreme, lets not even try and pretent Sinn Fein are a Nationalist party they clearly stopped being one a long time ago. I belive i wont see an alternative to FF or FG majority goverment in my lifetime. Voting is a cod in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    If only we, the Irish people, had a way to remove this government and put one in place who would work in our interests.

    How would you even begin to decide such a system? I'm racking my brains here....

    Give me a minute. I think you're on to something.

    Like say, a vote?? How did that go with Lisbon and Nice??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Like say, a vote?? How did that go with Lisbon and Nice??

    Very well. We voted on a treaty. It was rejected. Additional changes were made to treaty and we voted again and accepted.
    Democracy in action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    Anyone caught carrying a knife/blade, mandatory 5 year jail term.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 473 ✭✭Pissartist


    *Looks at username*

    I assume that goes for alcoholics too? Or is it just the drugs you don't like?

    And by pubs being allowed to open any day they like, you mean, Christmas Day? That's the only day they are closed.

    it's a name what's your childish *point*
    Any day they like, means any day they like it's pretty simple.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    Pissartist wrote: »
    No more dole or rent for any junkie that does not get clean withing a 2 month period,
    after that weekly drug tests, and if they fail once, never again to get any benefits.

    That would cause more harm than good. Homelessness would rise even more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭quokula


    Stan27 wrote: »
    1 Bring in euthanasia
    2 put a motorway from carlow to mullingar, so Waterford kilkenny carlow portlaois tullamore athlone and mullingar are connected much better, and have a proper attempt at decentralisation.
    3 high rise is Dublin in the appropriate places (should be no limit on the dock lands for example)
    4 legalise drugs and sex workers. Will happen anyway, at least we can control it, plus less money for gangs.
    5 invest more into social programs/ amenities for poor areas.
    6 give Gp,s more power so a+e will be used only is needed.
    7 help families who want to adopt. Loads are willing.
    8 teach Irish properly in schools, and ban religion from schools also.
    9 ban energy drinks for under 18,s
    10 people who arnt pulling their weight in public sector jobs, get rid.

    This isn't getting in with the spirit of the opening post. You're supposed to be a dictator. Not actually trying to help people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Anyone caught carrying a knife/blade, mandatory 5 year jail term.

    Tough on butchers. But fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Duane Dibbley


    I would have a zero tolerance state in relation to the law.

    Irish law would be modernized in relation to how we live today in a way that is clear.

    Citizens would be educated in Irish law as soon as they start school.

    Garda and Army would be combined as one.

    Every county would have separate courts dealing with Civil and Criminal cases.

    Every County would have prisons.

    Unions would be Abolished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Marcos


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??

    21. Expand the CAB remit to deal with white collar crime and corruption. Hire at least a hundred forensic accountants on contract and pay them a bonus based on monies recouped by the state.

    22. Make it illegal to know of corruption and not report it, much the same way it is illegal to know of paedophilia and not report it.

    23. Set up a national anti corruption hotline and reward those who report corruption provided a conviction is secured much like the IRS Whistleblower Reward Program.

    24. Transcribe the US RICO act into Irish law.

    25. Set up white collar courts and hire judges from common law countries outside the juristiction to sit on them as a way of avoiding potential conflicts of interest. That also ties neatly into No 3 above. :P

    26. The new expanded CAB to investigate contracts regarding public money like the National Children's Hospital and proposed national broadband plan etc.

    27. A CAB special division to investigate NAMA. Especially with all the allegations about corruption regarding Project Eagle etc.

    28. Another unit to audit all local government spending and projects.

    29. Everyone to get a special tax break paid for with a portion of the monies stolen by corruption and waste. Other monies ringfenced to go to specific social housing or infrastructure projects.

    30. Abolish the tv licence and turn RTE into a subscription service.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pissartist wrote: »
    it's a name what's your childish *point*
    Any day they like, means any day they like it's pretty simple.


    Hold your horses there.

    I was just asking if alcoholics would be under the same scrutiny as people who take other drugs?

    And I find it bizarre that as a dictator, one of your important rules would be to allow pubs to open on Xmas day. It just doesn't seem to be a problem area that needs addressing.

    I don't see how it was childish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    What would you change?? I was thinking about this yesterday. I haven't exactly priced everything out, so any pedants can feck off. Its just a bit of fun.

    1. Cut the number of TDs in half. No need for so many. I'd also implement a fine system that fined any TD undertaking work that the local council should be doing. No more "he fixed the road".

    2. Seanad, gone.

    3. Intensive building of a large, supermax prison. Non contact visits, no drugs, the very least provided.

    4. Intensive building of public housing. To qualify for public housing you have to 1) be earning below a certain threshold. 2) be contributing to your community i.e. if you are not working, you will be doing at least 20 hours per week cleaning, painting, litter picking etc.

    5. Purge of the disability fraud in this country. Anyone who is signed off on long term disability to be assessed by 2 independent doctors. Any GP found to have signed off someone for disability who should not qualify, will be fined and a mark put against their record. 5 marks and you are struck off.

    6. Ten convictions and you automatically get a ten year sentence. Get out of jail and break the law again, another 10 stretch automatically. No remission.

    7. Chemical castration for paedophiles.

    8. Streamlined asylum system. No endless appeals. You are declined, you are on the very next plane home.

    9. An ICE style unit. Again, you are caught here illegally, immediate deportation. No sob storys.

    10. Recruit more Gardai. With proper training. Anti social behaviour to be put down by force.

    11. Can't pay the mortgage. Leave and put the keys in the letterbox. No hounding of people who have left the asset with the bank.

    12. Set up a not for profit government bank.

    13. MUP and other nanny state taxes abolished.

    14. Fully legalise cannabis. Tax it fairly, not expensively.

    15. Round up all of the junkies. Put them into specialist centers to go cold turkey. Once the drugs are out of their system, counsel them, have them go through a full scale deprogramming. Only allowed to leave when assessed to be fully clean and strong enough to be in general population without going back to drugs. Won't work for all people, but might fro some.

    16. Streamline the HSE. Offer decent wages to those we need, and a staff counsel rather than union control. Service to be run for the needs of the population rather than for the wants of the civil service.

    17. Abolish lobbying.

    18. Break up the LVA and VA. Diageo is a monopoly, fine the hell out of them. Charge them if found to be paying pubs not to stock other beers.

    19. Abolish the role of the President.

    20. Put a roof on the country. :P


    Anyone agree/disagree?? Got any of your own??

    1. Why do you need TD's if you are a dictator

    And this should cover most others

    2. Where you getting the money.

    Also even ICE does not deport you on the spot.

    What will you do to those who do not just hand back keys.

    Why just Dieago are you going for and also watch them all leave


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Garda and Army would be combined as one.

    These are totally different functions.
    Every county would have separate courts dealing with Civil and Criminal cases.

    We have a system already that is similar. District and circuit courts.
    Every County would have prisons.

    A prison is a long term lock up. You probably mean jails and most have that already. Also counties are of arbitrary size, the idea that if Dublin has a prison then Leitrim should have one is nonsensical.
    Unions would be Abolished.

    Any more civic groups you want to abolish?

    I’d make them mandatory myself if possible. I would kick people out if unions in the civil service if they get past a management level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Resign and make it a democracy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    This thread is really what should change in Ireland.

    Can the people who want to abolish the presidency explain how that would work. Who would do the presidential functions? Who would be head of state.

    (If it’s the taoiseach then he is the president.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,418 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Resign and make it a democracy.

    Brilliant.

    Bit like Juan Carlos of Spain


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭SnazzyPig


    Bring back the stocks for littering and illegal dumping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Tony Tucker


    This thread is really what should change in Ireland.

    Can the people who want to abolish the presidency explain how that would work. Who would do the presidential functions? Who would be head of state.

    (If it’s the taoiseach then he is the president.)

    How does it work for other countries with no president?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    How does it work for other countries with no president?

    I’m not aware of any such system. Unless you mean dictators or kings/queens. Do we want a king?

    I may be wrong but I’m not suggesting it, so rather than answer questions with questions I’d like a solution from those proposing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Someone that is addicted to cocaine/heroin. For examples see the boardwalk.

    Why those two specifcially?

    I mean, I don't mean to nit-pick, but people who use the phrase "junkies" tend to have varied interpretations, but the most consistent would be addicts generally. Which would contradict at least two of your other ideas (alcohol and cannabis - which, I'm guessing, are the two you occasionally use yourself...?)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Marcos wrote: »
    21. Expand the CAB remit to deal with white collar crime and corruption. Hire at least a hundred forensic accountants on contract and pay them a bonus based on monies recouped by the state.

    22. Make it illegal to know of corruption and not report it, much the same way it is illegal to know of paedophilia and not report it.

    23. Set up a national anti corruption hotline and reward those who report corruption provided a conviction is secured much like the IRS Whistleblower Reward Program.

    24. Transcribe the US RICO act into Irish law.

    25. Set up white collar courts and hire judges from common law countries outside the juristiction to sit on them as a way of avoiding potential conflicts of interest. That also ties neatly into No 3 above. :P

    26. The new expanded CAB to investigate contracts regarding public money like the National Children's Hospital and proposed national broadband plan etc.

    27. A CAB special division to investigate NAMA. Especially with all the allegations about corruption regarding Project Eagle etc.

    28. Another unit to audit all local government spending and projects.

    29. Everyone to get a special tax break paid for with a portion of the monies stolen by corruption and waste. Other monies ringfenced to go to specific social housing or infrastructure projects.

    30. Abolish the tv licence and turn RTE into a subscription service.

    Unless the corruption is carried out by the dictator, in which case it's all good ;)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'd eliminate all opposition to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I'd put to death any guard or soldier that shoots themselves in the foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    branie2 wrote: »
    I'd eliminate all opposition to me

    You gotta do that first


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    1. Why do you need TD's if you are a dictator

    And this should cover most others

    2. Where you getting the money.

    Also even ICE does not deport you on the spot.

    What will you do to those who do not just hand back keys.

    Why just Dieago are you going for and also watch them all leave

    I'd be dictator, but I would let the people be represented. I'd be a sound dictator.

    Money could come from the taxes all of the workers who are building the new homes, prison. Money would flood in from cannabis. Savings from kicking people off disability who were given it by GPs who were just fed up of them coming in annoying them.

    I said an ICE style unit, not ICE.

    Diaego would be one of them. Insurance companies would be another. It's not a manifesto, it's just a bit of fun. I stopped at 20 points because i'd be here all day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    This thread is really what should change in Ireland.

    Can the people who want to abolish the presidency explain how that would work. Who would do the presidential functions? Who would be head of state.

    (If it’s the taoiseach then he is the president.)

    If you were dictator of Ireland


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