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What new penalty point offence would you create if you could?

  • 11-07-2019 4:02pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭


    If you were given the power to create a new penalty point offence (not increase or expunge one), what would you do?

    I'm torn between two things.
    I don't know whether to make lane hogging a penalty point offence or abuse of the bus lane.


    I think I'd go for bus lane misuse though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    6 points for anyone that puts cushions in the back seat or on their parcel tray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭maddness


    Scrolling through a smart phone screen while driving. You might say it already is an offense but it couldn’t possibly be...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Jesus, OP you sound like your some craic with all these type threads. Slow day on the internet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Effects wrote: »
    6 points for anyone that puts cushions in the back seat or on their parcel tray.


    Why the fuck would anyone put them in the pacel tray?? Do people do that?? :confused::confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    maddness wrote: »
    Scrolling through a smart phone screen while driving. You might say it already is an offense but it couldn’t possibly be...


    I counted 20 something cars (maybe even 30) where there was a bright light coming from other cars when I was driving after nightfall recently. I stopped counting after 20. It was only a 20 km journey (all non-motorway).


    Car needs to be crushed with th edriver inside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    1. Middle lane driving

    2. German italics number plates

    3. Driving around the roundabout (3 o'clock exit) in the left hand lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭CorkMan_


    Middle Lane hogging. Definitely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    1. Middle lane driving


    This boils my piss. It's usually women who refuse to move over. From my experience men tend to move when flashed and or beeped but give you obscene jestures after doing so.

    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    2. German italics number plates


    This. I see some cars where the IRL is replaced by D and they have two cirlce things on the plate that you'r ordinarily see on German cars. I don't know what it is though.

    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    3. Driving around the roundabout (3 o'clock exit) in the left hand lane.


    I believe you car be done for dangerous or careless driving or driving without due care and attention if a Garda catches you doing it and rightly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    5 points for general stupidity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    Throwing someone the finger when you nearly cause an accident and they beep at you...

    As the charming young lady did today
    to me when she tried to pull into my lane out of the blue without indicating, at 70mph on the motorway..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Drivers who slow down, come to a complete stop and then indicate just as they are making the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    Driving without any lights in the fog or rain, usually in a charcoal grey car to blend in well with the road. (6 points)

    Doing 60 in a 100 zone on a twisty back road and holding up dozens of cars (like a guy I met today) :D (1 point)


    Sticker Man - Baby on Board and other 'safety' Notices (that block part of the view from the rear window. (1 point)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    I believe you car be done for dangerous or careless driving or driving without due care and attention if a Garda catches you doing it and rightly so.

    In Spain, that is the legal way to navigate a roundabout!!

    I had to Google it when I was in Tenerife. Couldn't figure out why there was nobody using the left lane of the roundabout.

    Let's say they want to take the third exit (9 o'clock in Spain).

    o They enter a roundabout in the right hand lane.

    o They pass the 3 o'clock exit in the right lane.

    o They pass the 12 o'clock exit still in the right hand lane.

    o They make their exit at 9 o'clock from the right hand lane.

    Interestingly, Portugal and France adopted our style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Why the fuck would anyone put them in the pacel tray?? Do people do that?? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Makes it easier for other people to see how fancy their car is. Generally a Nisan Micra or Tiida.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    how about enforce the ones that are there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    how about enforce the ones that are there


    I very much doubt that word is in the dictionary of An Garda Siochana.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    jaxxx wrote: »
    I very much doubt that word is in the dictionary of An Garda Siochana.


    When you see Gardaí barrelling up the bus lane above the speed limit and going through red lights and stop signs and passing cyclists with cm to spare (when not in persuite) you can be sure they don't give a damn about road safety and only about doing other people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Drivers who hog the white line and refuse to overtake the arctic lorry that has pulled into the hard shoulder on a straight to let them pass


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Drivers who slow down, come to a complete stop and then indicate just as they are making the turn.

    Drivers approaching a roundabout from your right, so you stop to allow them continue ahead of you. As they enter the roundabout, on comes the indicator and they exit at your point of entry, meaning you could have gone if they'd indicated earlier.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    freddieot wrote: »
    Doing 60 in a 100 zone on a twisty back road and holding up dozens of cars (like a guy I met today) :D (1 point)

    Who in their right mind drives at 100kph on a twisty back road!?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Who in their right mind drives at 100kph on a twisty back road!?


    We have a chronic and toxic speed culture on our roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    5 points from masturbation while driving. As truck driver (sitting high up) see a lad doing the act in heavy traffic today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Whocare wrote: »
    5 points from masturbation while driving. As truck driver (sitting high up) see a lad doing the act in heavy traffic today


    Really??? Jesus :P



    Have you seen anything else interesting up there?


    Random quesion, have you ever encountered anyone retarted enough to brake check you in your lorry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Who in their right mind drives at 100kph on a twisty back road!?

    Read the post again - 100 Zone !?!


    It people driving at just over half the speed limit on any road that are crazy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Road licenses for cyclists and a penalty point system for them.

    Also lane hogging is a must.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    Jimbob1977 wrote:
    3. Driving around the roundabout (3 o'clock exit) in the left hand lane.


    Happens at Dublin airport very frequently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    freddieot wrote: »
    Read the post again - 100 Zone !?!


    It people driving at just over half the speed limit on any road that are crazy..


    A lot of speed limits are in appropriate.


    It's a limit not a target.


    You clearly said windy back road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Really??? Jesus :P



    Have you seen anything else interesting up there?


    Random quesion, have you ever encountered anyone retarted enough to brake check you in your lorry?

    I did search YouTube cash for crash m50 happen few years ago. Don't know how to do a link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Driving while holding a 99 ice-cream.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭freddieot


    It's a limit not a target. (Agree absolutely but 50 \ 60 in a 100 is acting the maggot... An artic actually overtook this guy...


    You clearly said windy back road.[/QUOTE]. I'll give you that one but I'm from Dublin, so twisty back road to me is any road other than a motorway \ dual Carriageway :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Indication is a big one, 5 points for that.

    There are other existing ones where points need to be increased.

    Another i would bring in would be a mandatory S.41 if caught on the phone with a minimum charge of €500 to release the vehicle,naturally you'll always find people who will be disobliging regardless but this is a minority in society thankfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Drivers who hog the white line and refuse to overtake the arctic lorry that has pulled into the hard shoulder on a straight to let them pass

    If i don't have high blood pressure from this now then i never will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    XsApollo wrote: »
    Road licenses for cyclists and a penalty point system for them.

    No benefit only to satisfy bitter minds.

    There's a chronic lack of enforcement on the road and behaviour is equally appalling across all road groups. Just enforce the existing rules across the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭micar


    Using fog lights when there's no fog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Three points for misuse of car horn (i.e. to berate another driver). Six if you accelerated towards their mistake for added drama. Almost always male drivers who do this.
    Two points for overtaking a bus as it tries to emerge from a bus stop.
    Automatic driving ban for using a phone while driving (treat it like drink-driving, essentially).
    Six points for driving too close to a cyclist
    Three points for driving with DRLs and no rear lights at night. Alas, the guards themselves are major offenders.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭micar


    XsApollo wrote: »
    Road licenses for cyclists and a penalty point system for them..

    Never going to happen.

    People need to be encouraged to cycle not discouraged.

    More people commuting to work by bike means less vehicles, less congestion and ultimately reduced journey times....win win for all.

    Anyone living within 10km of work should be cycling where possible .......of course there will be exceptions

    80% of cyclist drive ....have a driving licence, pay motor tax and insurance.

    In the last 15/16 years, no cyclist has been responsible for a death of another person on Irish roads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    12 points for tail-gating.

    Speed limits are limits, not goals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    5 points for throwing rubbish out the window of a vehicle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    12 points for having an un-restrained dog in the car.

    Especially if you let it hang out the window or lie on the parcel shelf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Points for people on the motorway that can’t make their mind up whether they want to travel 100kp/h or 140kp/h. At this stage most cars have cruise control. Just set it. Overtaking the same car on the motorway over and over again is frustrating. I generally set the cruise to 115kp/h and sit in the left lane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    4 penalty points to idiots who see a red light in the distance and begin slowing down to a pathetic crawl to save their brake pads, with no regard to motorists behind them who want to turn before the red light - either at a junction before the light, or into a car park etc.

    Even when there's no junction, it's annoying being forced to crawl behind someone driving like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    micar wrote: »

    In the last 15/16 years, no cyclist has been responsible for a death of another person on Irish roads.

    Yeah but how many heads have they melted. I hate the Lycra brigade. Hate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    freddieot wrote: »
    Doing 60 in a 100 zone on a twisty back road and holding up dozens of cars (like a guy I met today) :D (1 point)

    Driving at a crawl around bends on country roads, and at the first chance someone has to overtake, accelerates to 100kph. So rude and it happens the whole time. 12 points and a public flogging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Duckjob wrote: »
    No benefit only to satisfy bitter minds.

    There's a chronic lack of enforcement on the road and behaviour is equally appalling across all road groups. Just enforce the existing rules across the board.

    Excuse me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    micar wrote: »
    Never going to happen.

    People need to be encouraged to cycle not discouraged.

    More people commuting to work by bike means less vehicles, less congestion and ultimately reduced journey times....win win for all.

    Anyone living within 10km of work should be cycling where possible .......of course there will be exceptions

    80% of cyclist drive ....have a driving licence, pay motor tax and insurance.

    In the last 15/16 years, no cyclist has been responsible for a death of another person on Irish roads.

    What happens when everybody is on bikes?
    Will we need rules then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    XsApollo wrote: »
    What happens when everybody is on bikes?
    Will we need rules then?

    Go to Holland. They're all on bikes. Throughput of people is enormous on tiny little streets. No noise. No helmets. No hi viz. Rains just as much as here.

    If u took every bollocks clogging the quays in his car out of it tomorrow and hurled him onto a bike, there would be no need for traffic lights, yellow boxes, double yellows, turning lanes..... there would hundreds going through O'Connell bridge in all directions seamlessly. The roads would be in some condition also.

    But of course that will never happen here, because you need a Qashqai to live your life in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Yeah but how many heads have they melted. I hate the Lycra brigade. Hate.

    Irrational hatred for a random group of people you don't know? Maybe get your mental health checked out., sounds like there may be a few issues there.

    Also, the preoccupation with gazing at fit men's arses and crotches while driving? Maybe channel that energy into being a better more concentrated driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    L plates on upside down, 48 points, if you can't manage to put the sticker on the right way around you have no business on the road for a long long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Roanmore


    Throwing cigarettes out of the car window, especially in slow moving traffic.


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