Orange order attempts to reignite drumcree crisis

_blaaz

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/orange-order-in-talks-with-uk-officials-over-drumcree-dispute-1.3946791?mode=amp



After refusing to meet residents groups,now the orange order is attempting to introduce political influence to what was meant to been an independant parades comission??


This is setting stage for massive trouble next friday

eyerer

*Sigh*

Atlantic Dawn

With the DUP proping up Theresa May and Brexit on the horizon the march could very much go ahead, hopefully not.

Drumcree march is usually on a Sunday is it not?

_blaaz

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

With the DUP proping up Theresa May and Brexit on the horizon the march could very much go ahead, hopefully not.

Drumcree march is usually on a Sunday is it not?

Idk.....but the 12th falls on friday this year



I cant believe the orangemen are attempting to look for trouble here and hand dissidents a moral.victory after the (rightful) kicking theyve got killing that young wan



They brought north to brink of civil war before over this....the sight of nationlists protesters been tore off the street by the psni will make people inevitably smpateheic to dissident attacks on them

Theres no good to come.from what they.are trying.to do here....every nationlist protest/paradea comission decision can be run roughshod over by word in boris johnsons ear is what it will boil.down to

NIMAN

This is always a tense time of the year, obviously.

But this is a very worrying development.

This is what happens when there is a political vacuum. Politicians should be ashamed of themselves. The province has gone back a decade.

FrancieBrady

NIMAN wrote: »

This is always a tense time of the year, obviously.

But this is a very worrying development.

This is what happens when there is a political vacuum. Politicians should be ashamed of themselves. The province has gone back a decade.

It isn't the political vacuum that is to blame here, it is the sense of empowerment May's crooked foolhardy alliance has given the DUP.

Atlantic Dawn

Every time I would see it back in the 80's/90's I'd wish I was there at the petrol bombing, utter disgrace, like KKK walking through a main street of Alabama.

Boxing.Fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxST-9gYcIg

_Brian

Due to pass through Portadown tomorrow, must rethink the route and avoids it.
Last Sunday we passed through the Feckin flags and the size of the stack of pallets for the bonfire was bigger than ever.

Atlantic Dawn

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Classic and not bullet proof glass neither

Atlantic Dawn

_Brian wrote: »

Due to pass through Portadown tomorrow, must rethink the route and avoids it.
Last Sunday we passed through the Feckin flags and the size of the stack of pallets for the bonfire was bigger than ever.

Once not late in the evening when there's can's aboard you should be fine, most of them are grand.

Shefwedfan

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

It’s a pity they didn’t pull him out of van and have a discussion with him....clown

ILoveYourVibes

_blaaz wrote: »

I cant believe the orangemen are attempting to look for trouble here and hand dissidents a moral.victory after the (rightful) kicking theyve got killing that young wan

I think they are. Its more about building up their own extremists and dissidents.

A lot of unionists are dismayed and disillusioned with brexit. They see the practicalities. The DUP is totally out of touch with these people.

They need to find a reason for their existence right now. But their existence on their terms as an ultra right party.

Sectarianism has always done this in the past for them so why not try it again now?

That's all this is.

timthumbni

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

<SNIP>

Aside from that is not in Norn Iron.

rafatoni

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It’s a pity they didn’t pull him out of van and have a discussion with him....clown

they didnt have the minerals. Init

NIMAN

timthumbni wrote: »

Aside from that is not in Norn Iron.

Scottish folk......

timthumbni

NIMAN wrote: »

Scottish folk......

Yah.

McMurphy

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

<SNIP>

Awwww man, had me howling at the laptop screen

ChikiChiki

My friend is adamant about travelling up to Killough, Co Down on the 12th for the Killough festival to meet friends. Killough is a catholic area and the festival itsself is not related to the orange 12th July events. Its my opinion that the violence this year could be worse than we have seen in a long time. Does anyone know if the route there will be safe?

As is, I'm advising her against it. I think for someone not familiar with the north is would not be a great idea to drive up there on that day in a southern registration car.

timthumbni

ChikiChiki wrote: »

My friend is adamant about travelling up to Killough, Co Down on the 12th for the Killough festival to meet friends. Killough is a catholic area and the festival itsself is not related to the orange 12th July events. Its my opinion that the violence this year could be worse than we have seen in a long time. Does anyone know if the route there will be safe?

As is, I'm advising her against it. I think for someone not familiar with the north is would not be a great idea to drive up there on that day in a southern registration car.

Totally safe. Stop watching horror movies. Maybe traffic slow depending on her route and time she travels but that’s it. Republic plates aren’t exactly unknown here ffs. Enjoy.

McMurphy

ChikiChiki wrote: »

My friend is adamant about travelling up to Killough, Co Down on the 12th for the Killough festival to meet friends. Killough is a catholic area and the festival itsself is not related to the orange 12th July events. Its my opinion that the violence this year could be worse than we have seen in a long time. Does anyone know if the route there will be safe?

As is, I'm advising her against it. I think for someone not familiar with the north is would not be a great idea to drive up there on that day in a southern registration car.

Your friend would be grand, if they're gonna hijack and burn a car, they'll just as quickly burn a northern registered one as a southern one.

My personal opinion.

timthumbni

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Your friend would be grand, if they're gonna hijack and burn a car, they'll just as quickly burn a northern registered one as a southern one.

My personal opinion.

No issues. Now if she was travelling through republican areas of Londonderry then I would advise caution. Love a murder do those wans.

amcalester

timthumbni wrote: »

No issues. Now if she was travelling through republican areas of Londonderry then I would advise caution. Love a murder do those wans.

Don’t think there are any republican areas of Londonderry.

Dirkziggler

Drumcree will never get the go ahead why would the PC rule against Ardoyne then open a bigger can of worms.

Dirkziggler

timthumbni wrote: »

No issues. Now if she was travelling through republican areas of derry then I would advise caution. Love a murder do those wans.

FYP, nobody loves murder

FrancieBrady

ChikiChiki wrote: »

My friend is adamant about travelling up to Killough, Co Down on the 12th for the Killough festival to meet friends. Killough is a catholic area and the festival itsself is not related to the orange 12th July events. Its my opinion that the violence this year could be worse than we have seen in a long time. Does anyone know if the route there will be safe?

As is, I'm advising her against it. I think for someone not familiar with the north is would not be a great idea to drive up there on that day in a southern registration car.

Tell your friend to excercise caution, as evidenced by a certain poster here, these people will lash out at anyone they see as a threat to their triumphalist jamboree.

McMurphy

timthumbni wrote: »

No issues. Now if she was travelling through republican areas of Londonderry then I would advise caution. Love a murder do those wans.

I would advise caution using the term "Londonderry" in Republcan areas of Derry, might get a few funny looks, but I don't know what anyone driving a southern reg car would have to fear driving through parts of the maiden city, loyalist or republcan.

Dirkziggler

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I would advise caution using the term "Londonderry" in Republcan areas of Derry, might get a few funny looks, but I don't know what anyone driving a southern reg car would have to fear driving through parts of the maiden city, loyalist or republcan.

Have you ever drove into the Fountain or Irish street In Derry hahah

McMurphy

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Have you ever drove into the Fountain or Irish street In Derry hahah

Not overly familiar with either tbh, cowboy and Indian territory?

Dirkziggler

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Not overly familiar with either tbh, cowboy and Indian territory?

Let's just say rent a car if your on southern plates before entering hahaha

vriesmays

_blaaz wrote: »

This is setting stage for massive trouble next friday

Wait till there's a united Ireland and they're demanding to march past the GPO every July.

_blaaz

vriesmays wrote: »

Wait till there's a united Ireland and they're demanding to march past the GPO every July.

Sure let them??


Idk what church/orange hall.is in the.oconnel.street area however

Dirkziggler

_blaaz wrote: »

Sure let them??


Idk what church/orange hall.is in the.oconnel.street area however

I'm not too sure what orange hall is at Ardoyne shops that makes them want to march by there either

bobbysands81

NIMAN wrote: »

This is always a tense time of the year, obviously.

But this is a very worrying development.

This is what happens when there is a political vacuum. Politicians should be ashamed of themselves. The province has gone back a decade.

This is what happens when hate filled bigots such as the Orange Order flex their muscles.

The Orange Order should be an illegal hate group but for some reason their existence is normalised, especially on this island.

vriesmays

_blaaz wrote: »

Sure let them??


Idk what church/orange hall.is in the.oconnel.street area however

Dublin & Wicklow L.O.L. 1313 is a forward thinking, modern lodge situated in the heart of Dublin city center for 60 years.


http://www.dublin1313.com/site/

bobbysands81

timthumbni wrote: »

No issues. Now if she was travelling through republican areas of Londonderry then I would advise caution. Love a murder do those wans.

What sort of eejitry are you spouting?

bobbysands81

vriesmays wrote: »

Dublin & Wicklow L.O.L. 1313 is a forward thinking, modern lodge situated in the heart of Dublin city center for 60 years.


http://www.dublin1313.com/site/

Hatred has never sounded more progressive.

timthumbni

amcalester wrote: »

Don’t think there are any republican areas of Londonderry.

Aye there is. Google Lyra McKee. That was in Londonderry and I’m fairly sure that was Irish republicans.

timthumbni

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Hatred has never sounded more progressive.

And so says booby sands. Btw I’m using the SF spelling of his name.

McMurphy

timthumbni wrote: »

And so says booby sands. Btw I’m using the SF spelling of his name.

To be specific, you're on the wind up, and I think you're mixing up the printing company who printed leaflets with a political party tbh.

kona

timthumbni wrote: »

Aye there is. Google Lyra McKee. That was in Londonderry and I’m fairly sure that was Irish republicans.

Whats a londonderry? Is that in stranger things?

timthumbni

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

To be specific, you're on the wind up, and I think you're mixing up the printing company who printed leaflets with a political party tbh.

I would think the same of some clown who had michaelstone88 as his user name. Hilarious.

_blaaz

timthumbni wrote: »

I would think the same of some clown who had michaelstone88 as his user name. Hilarious.

Id class someone who.uses londonderry in same light tbh


But thats just me and can see piss poor windup attempts a mile off

NIMAN

Only in NI would this madness be allowed to continue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-48899104

Imagine if in Manchester, London or Birmingham, the authorities and police force of the land allowed people to light massive bonfires which necessitated people being told it would probably be better if they left their homes?

This is the 21st century, right?

Titzon Toast

_blaaz wrote: »

Id class someone who.uses londonderry in same light tbh


But thats just me and can see piss poor windup attempts a mile off

It's not his fault, he's under pressure trying to learn Irish so that he'll be able to read the road signs up there when the change happens.

bobbysands81

timthumbni wrote: »

And so says booby sands. Btw I’m using the SF spelling of his name.

Booby Sands?

Is that the level unionism is pitching itself at these days?

s7ryf3925pivug

The uk have declared a climate emergency. Anybody looking to be involved in building bonfires must be rounded up and held under the prevention of terrorism act.

bobbysands81

Rhys Purple Kale wrote: »

The uk have declared a climate emergency. Anybody looking to be involved in building bonfires must be rounded up and held under the prevention of terrorism act.

The Irish Government need to stop funding these hate-fests as well.

Pissartist

timthumbni wrote: »

Aye there is. Google Lyra McKee. That was in Londonderry and I’m fairly sure that was Irish republicans.

It was in Derry, and voluntarily walk into the middle of an armed riot what do you expect ?

shanec1928

NIMAN wrote: »

Only in NI would this madness be allowed to continue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-48899104

Imagine if in Manchester, London or Birmingham, the authorities and police force of the land allowed people to light massive bonfires which necessitated people being told it would probably be better if they left their homes?

This is the 21st century, right?

Like the travellers it’s all kkkulture...

The Specialist

shanec1928 wrote: »

Like the travellers it’s all kkkulture...

Ya but travellers are an ethnic minority now and ripe for a cleansing given then right climate and mood - how do you solve a bunch of inbred **** heads like the orange order?