Pewdiepie why?

Atoms for Peace

From reading between the lines in various media reports, the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist and an icon of the disaffected male, often violent extremists.
His name popped up again in an article published today about another horrific crime. I don't watch his stuff but I'm intrigued by why a producer of immature fluff is increasingly linked to extremist and/or depraved acts.

Goodshape

It's because it's regarded as "immature fluff", or simply not regarded at all, by many. To some, it becomes a badge of the counterculture.

Don't think it matters what he actually says or does, it's just the fact that most people / "the mainstream" don't "get it".

DEFTLEFTHAND

He makes fun of SJWs in some of his videos.

Therefore he is a Nazi to these types and must be silenced.

super_furry

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

He makes fun of SJWs in some of his videos.

Therefore he is a Nazi to these types and must be silenced.

Think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than that to be honest. When the New Zealand shooter who killed 50 people is telling people to 'subscribe to PewDiePie' in his manifesto and his name crops up in the Ana Kriegel case, questions are bound to be raised.

Do I think he's a neo-nazi corrupting innocent minds? Of course not, but he's got an unbelievably large young and impressionable audience and with that comes a responsibility that he hasn't always lived up to.

kneemos

Is there a theme to his videos? They look like an incoherent mess.

Curious to know why he has 96m subs.

ILoveYourVibes

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

From reading between the lines in various media reports, the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist and an icon of the disaffected male, often violent extremists.
His name popped up again in an article published today about another horrific crime. I don't watch his stuff but I'm intrigued by why a producer of immature fluff is increasingly linked to extremist and/or depraved acts.

Humans have a natural inclination towards searching for the subversive. The 'ODD'. The beauty of degeneracy, the unorthodox or the avant garde.

Sometimes in this search less developed souls get trapped in a rabbit hole of something seemingly 'new' or interesting. When really it's just a short cut to prick ville. It's just the third fourth fifth or sixth Reich or whatever number we are on now doing it's annual round again.

True degeneracy is Oscar Wilde. But only insofar as he was associated with the decadent art movement.


You see PewDiePie is a swedish straight white man. And he seems pretty 'NORMAL' it's got to be boring. I mean you have to be drawn to something right?

The best of the subversive is really just there to coerce you down the highway to heaven.

It looks like the Addams Family but really it's the Partridge family just less cold and less judgemental.

PewDiePie got butt ****ed and quite lost up the rabbit hole of his own ass.

ILoveYourVibes

super_furry wrote: »

Think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than that to be honest. When the New Zealand shooter who killed 50 people is telling people to 'subscribe to PewDiePie' in his manifesto and his name crops up in the Ana Kriegel case, questions are bound to be raised.

Do I think he's a neo-nazi corrupting innocent minds? Of course not, but he's got an unbelievably large young and impressionable audience and with that comes a responsibility that he has always lived up to.

He paid a guy to hold up a sign saying 'KILL ALL JEWS'.

He gave a shout out to a straight up Nazi channel on youtube.

Bobblehats

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Humans have a natural inclination towards searching for the subversive. The 'ODD'. The beauty of degeneracy, the unorthodox or the avant garde.

Or the degeneracy of beauty in his case. He does seem a priveleged white male, in the looks department at least jesus man why’s wrong with you get out of the bedroom go off to the far east or something and conquer your hordes of female fans. Piewdiepie the Nazi; gets weirder

ILoveYourVibes

Bobblehats wrote: »

Or the degeneracy of beauty in his case. He does seem a priveleged white male, in the looks department at least jesus man why’s wrong with you get out of the bedroom go off to the far east or something and conquer your hordes of female fans. Piewdiepie the Nazi; gets weirder

Exactly. But people born to normal rarely understand what it's like to be weird or even have a genuine viewpoint or culture that is considered weird.

So they go out and search for one. Like finding the cool weird place to hang that no one has found out about.

Sometimes successfully and they learn a lot.

He is isolated I guess and with bad judgement.

He got caught in the whole 'I am so real' fake crap.

Bobblehats

Needs to remember his humble beginnings. It’s a bit of a leap get back to the videogame walkthroughs or some shít

Pero_Bueno

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

From reading between the lines in various media reports, the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist and an icon of the disaffected male, often violent extremists.
His name popped up again in an article published today about another horrific crime. I don't watch his stuff but I'm intrigued by why a producer of immature fluff is increasingly linked to extremist and/or depraved acts.

Nope.
You are believing the mainstream medias misrepresentation of the guy.
Everything you have written above is untrue.

Pero_Bueno

super_furry wrote: »

Think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than that to be honest. When the New Zealand shooter who killed 50 people is telling people to 'subscribe to PewDiePie' in his manifesto and his name crops up in the Ana Kriegel case, questions are bound to be raised.

Do I think he's a neo-nazi corrupting innocent minds? Of course not, but he's got an unbelievably large young and impressionable audience and with that comes a responsibility that he has always lived up to.

:rolleyes:
These idiots are purposefully saying that to troll, it would be like saying "Trump made me do it".

ILoveYourVibes

Bobblehats wrote: »

Needs to remember his humble beginnings. It’s a bit of a leap get back to the videogame walkthroughs or some shít

The thing is not everyone has humble beginnings. He came from a very well to do family.

His mother was a CIO and his father a corporate executive.

I doubt he has ever had to take anything too seriously.

Jamiekelly

Reminds me of the crowd in Northern Ireland who protested Frankie Boyle's comedy show because he made fun of someone in a wheelchair. Basically the thought police are on their usual patrol and happened across someone who they didn't like and wanted to take down a peg or two.

"oi you got a license for that joke? no!? into the gulag you go!"

El_Bee

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

From reading between the lines in various media reports, the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist and an icon of the disaffected male, often violent extremists.
His name popped up again in an article published today about another horrific crime. I don't watch his stuff but I'm intrigued by why a producer of immature fluff is increasingly linked to extremist and/or depraved acts.

Because after his first two slip ups; displaying a banner saying "death to all jews" (wow what a random thing to have unveiled on your video just a joke obviously), and shouting "what a ****ing n****r" in the middle of a stream (completely innocent sure everyone shouts that when inconvenienced), he has become much better with his dogwhistling, the guy's a sociopath.

Bobblehats

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

The thing is not everyone has humble beginnings. He came from a very well to do family.

His mother was a CIO and his father a corporate executive.

I doubt he has ever had to take anything too seriously.

Oh he’s privileged alright. Pewdiepie needs to live up to his name; get out there and put that todger to use they were queuing up last time I saw him.... probably legal by now

ILoveYourVibes

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Reminds me of the crowd in Northern Ireland who protested Frankie Boyle's comedy show because he made fun of someone in a wheelchair. Basically the thought police are on their usual patrol and happened across someone who they didn't like and wanted to take down a peg or two.

"oi you got a license for that joke? no!? into the gulag you go!"

Where is the gulag?

We don't want to watch his channel so what?

ILoveYourVibes

Bobblehats wrote: »

Oh he’s privileged alright. Pewdiepie needs to live up to his name; get out there and put that todger to use they were queuing up last time I saw him.... probably legal by now

Not red blooded enough.

He's a cold blood. They are pretty boring.

Jamiekelly

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Where is the gulag?

We don't want to watch his channel so what?

ILoveYourVibes

Kids have never before been exposed to so much unfiltered ungoverned content.

Porn abuse ..trolling ...Swedish people...

Jamiekelly

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Kids have never before been exposed to so much unfiltered ungoverned content.

Porn abuse ..trolling ...Swedish people...

Well to be fair the parents need to start doing some actual parenting.

Canis Lupus

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Well to be fair the parents need to start doing some actual parenting.

That's what a tablet and youtube is for.

ILoveYourVibes

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Well to be fair the parents need to start doing some actual parenting.

True. A lot of parents don't let their kids online until around 13 and still supervised.

Gimme A Pound

From what I gather (open to correction) he started off as just a bit of a piss-taker but an overall reasonable guy, fairly gently poking fun at the perpetually offended over nothing (no harm there imo) leading to a surge in fans, among them the more hardline... which led to him upping his piss-taking in a more shocking way/possibly showboating for his more extreme fans.

MarkY91

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

The thing is not everyone has humble beginnings. He came from a very well to do family.

His mother was a CIO and his father a corporate executive.

I doubt he has ever had to take anything too seriously.

I'm pretty sure he worked in a kiosk selling food and sold drawings and saved every penny to buy a gaming PC to start off his career. No parents money involved.

Gimme A Pound

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Reminds me of the crowd in Northern Ireland who protested Frankie Boyle's comedy show because he made fun of someone in a wheelchair. Basically the thought police are on their usual patrol and happened across someone who they didn't like and wanted to take down a peg or two.

"oi you got a license for that joke? no!? into the gulag you go!"

Bit melodramatic. Freedom of speech goes both ways. I wouldn't protest myself but they are just expressing themselves also.

ILoveYourVibes

MarkY91 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he worked in a kiosk selling food and sold drawings and saved every penny to buy a gaming PC to start off his career. No parents money involved.

yeah right only problem with that is ...he can't draw! :pac:

Manic Moran

super_furry wrote: »

Think the conversation is a bit more nuanced than that to be honest. When the New Zealand shooter who killed 50 people is telling people to 'subscribe to PewDiePie' in his manifesto and his name crops up in the Ana Kriegel case, questions are bound to be raised.

I don't know about Ana Kriegel, but the manifesto of the Kiwi case was filled with a bunch of satirical references to modern culture, such as "Fortnite led me to floss over the bodies of those I killed" and the Navy Seal meme/copypasta. I see no reason the Pewdiepie one wasn't another of the same.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/the-shooters-manifesto-was-designed-to-troll/585058/

Significant portions of the manifesto appear to be an elaborate troll, written to prey on the mainstream media’s worst tendencies. As the journalist Robert Evans noted, “This manifesto is a trap … laid for journalists searching for the meaning behind this horrific crime. There is truth in there, and valuable clues to the shooter’s radicalization, but it is buried beneath a great deal of, for lack of a better word, ‘****posting.’”

Glass fused light

Bobblehats wrote: »

Oh he’s privileged alright. Pewdiepie needs to live up to his name; get out there and put that todger to use they were queuing up last time I saw him.... probably legal by now

What exactly are you saying here?

Are you recommending that this person should engage in sexual activities with childern?

ILoveYourVibes

Glass fused light wrote: »

What exactly are you saying here?

Are you recommending that this person should engage in sexual activities with childern?

Im sure he has some adult ones. No doubt mostly male though.

Glass fused light

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Im sure he has some adult ones. No doubt mostly male though.

PIE:
http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange

The poster can clarify if the post was advocating sexual contact with children.

VinLieger

Because alot of teenage boys like to show themselves off as edgelords, he has to follow his audience and everything will just get more extreme

Tzardine

He seems a decent guy. A bit of a piss taker that made a few bad calls along the way.

The death to all Jews video was actually pretty funny. The point was that he gave them such a mad request he never expected them to do it. The video he put up was a reaction to how unbelievable it was. The whole thing was reported out of context.

He has also directly raised literally millions for various charities. This rarely gets a mention.

Glass fused light

Tzardine wrote: »

He seems a decent guy. A bit of a piss taker that made a few bad calls along the way.

The death to all Jews video was actually pretty funny.

What made the video funny?

Tzardine wrote: »

The point was that he gave them such a mad request he never expected them to do it. The video he put up was a reaction to how unbelievable it was. The whole thing was reported out of context.

Auschwitz

Tzardine wrote: »

He has also directly raised literally millions for various charities. This rarely gets a mention.

You can do good and bad things. The good is usually nullified by the bad.
What made the video funny?

Tzardine

Glass fused light wrote: »

What made the video funny?

Auschwitz

You can do good and bad things. The good is usually nullified by the bad.
What made the video funny?

Have you watched the video ?

sbsquarepants

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist .

What is a crytofascist?

Glass fused light

Tzardine wrote: »

Have you watched the video ?

Nope that's why I am asking what made it funny.

Tzardine

Glass fused light wrote: »

Nope that's why I am asking what made it funny.

Off you go and watch it so. See for yourself the context it was in.

I have never heard the name before this thread. But it seems from a quick search that the guy himself did a view into his own "Google Analytics" so it might be useful for the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NLy743EFIA

theteal

I don't know what this is. I suppose that makes me old.

I take it that it's something to be watched on youtube. Don't people get paid for the amount of watches they got on youtube? I don't want to reward the creation of stupid stuff. Even to search it makes me feel I'm doing the world a disservice.

Gimme A Pound

Glass fused light wrote: »

PIE:
http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange

The poster can clarify if the post was advocating sexual contact with children.

Why do you think they are though? I don't see it on their posts.

suicide_circus

young males are more likely to commit violence.

young males watch pewdiepie

pewpiepie causes violence

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

young males are more likely to commit violence.

young males watch pewdiepie

pewpiepie causes violence

In fairness you can cut out the middle man on that one too. That is the same nonsense that is levelled against computer games too. You can literally cut out "pewdiepie" from the above and put in "Computer Games" and make the same point

I just randomly watched 5 of his videos after the Analytics one. The worst accusation I can level against the guy is being completely boring - albeit it in a slightly amusing Swedish accent.

Sonics2k

I'm not really a big fan, but over the years I've caught a good few of his videos and usually end up watching the controversies around him.

For one, he's no Nazi. What happens is that various big media outlets decide to take on the number one YouTuber and make some money off him.

A very quick look on YouTube shows 96,662,635 million subscribers. That's incredible for one person to have amassed on their own, and of course they're going to have some nutters.

People who think he's a cryptofacist or a Nazi really, really should watch the source videos the media uses, and of course the counter videos put out.

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness you can cut out the middle man on that one too. That is the same nonsense that is levelled against computer games too. You can literally cut out "pewdiepie" from the above and put in "Computer Games" and make the same point

I just randomly watched 5 of his videos after the Analytics one. The worst accusation I can level against the guy is being completely boring - albeit it in a slightly amusing Swedish accent.

its just another moral panic

antix80

He's a straight, white male. Of course he's evil.

razorblunt

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

From reading between the lines in various media reports, the "YouTuber" is seemingly a crytofascist and an icon of the disaffected male, often violent extremists.
His name popped up again in an article published today about another horrific crime. I don't watch his stuff but I'm intrigued by why a producer of immature fluff is increasingly linked to extremist and/or depraved acts.

Are you referring to Boy B? He asked for Ribena during the interviews too. That bloody Ribena and its new found links to extremist and/or depraved acts!!

ILoveYourVibes

antix80 wrote: »

He's a straight, white male. Of course he's evil.

Please stop that silliness. That is gratuitous at best.

ILoveYourVibes

suicide_circus wrote: »

its just another moral panic

Is saying KILL ALL JEWS alright?

theteal

Berties_Horse wrote: »

Man rants about stuff, stoke a controversy here and there for free publicity. Essentially a load of ****.

Does he at least do it with a funny voice?

I'm a sucker for a funny voice. . .

Sonics2k

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Is saying KILL ALL JEWS alright?

I do believe he actually commented on that not long after saying it was in poor taste. The point was more about what people will do for money.

Hell, even Kotaku, a renowned "liberal SJW" gaming site took his side on this one and called out the Wall Street Journal for deliberately taking his videos out of context by editing multiple videos together, removing content and adding in additionals.

https://kotaku.com/pewdiepie-apologizes-for-death-to-all-jews-joke-slams-1792439824