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Changing scopes.

  • 04-06-2019 12:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Is there any system of changing sights on a rifle without having to rezero the rifle every time. I have two optics one that uses 25 mm rings and the other 30 mm rings.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    Multiple mounting systems for quick release / change options.

    Picatanny Rails combined with QD Rings.

    Tip off Mounts.

    Leopold do quick release mounts that swing in and lock

    Blazer have few designs

    There's a classic German design with a rail and claw system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Which of the above is the best value.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    What set up do you have now?

    If there's a picatanny rail then Warne QD will do and you'd pay up to €110.00ish for a set of steel rings. You'd diffently pick up some no-name Ebay stuff for less, but you'll take your chances.

    I did look at compatible Leopold mounts and rings and if you hunt around you'll find them at good discount prices. You'll need a pair of bases compatible with the rifle receiver and then the match of rings to the bases. See Optics Warehouse for ranges.

    The German claw mount styles where specifically for scopes (Schmidt & Bender etc) with integral rails and are usually very expensive. Recently I was told that older style scopes with the rails can be retro fitted to mounts that are more contemporary and at a fraction of the cost of the original mounts. Nice if you want to fit an old style scope to an older rifle thats ethier incompatible or you don't have another €300.00 plus for classic mounts.

    I opted for Picatinny / Warne Steel QD and certainly didn't see any loss of zero when l removed and replaced the scope. I won't be doing this on a regular basis but wanted the option to change out my optics when needed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    At the moment I have two dovetail mounts on one scope and on the other I have a one piece mount that clamps on to the rifle. There is a standard 11 mm dovetail rail on the rifle.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    This is what you'll need:

    Scope mounts suitable for rails: 11 mm dovetail

    https://www.optics-trade.eu/en/mounts/shopby/suitable_for_rails-11_mm_dovetail.html

    Scroll down to:

    'Pivot mounts with rings:

    A special kind of repeatable mounts are pivot mounts, also known as swing mounts. They offer 100 % repeatability and can be quickly and simply detached and reattached with the use of levers, buttons and screws, with no tools required.'


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Fair selection of stuff there Cookie. Some of them are very expensive. Any particular one that you would recommend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Just came access theses "Ziegler ZP Scope Mount". Anybody any experience with them.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    I can't comment on 11mm dovetail / picatanny combos but I have used picatanny rails on centre fire rifles with no operational issues.

    The full length rails are flexible in relation to various lengths of scopes, something that can be a problem with various lengths and designs of scopes. Just ensure they don't interfere with the function of the rifle such as ejection and loading.

    This is my first foray into QD mounts and I chose the picatanny / QD rings mainly because the rifle came with a picatanny rail installed. This reduced the cost of the overall set up. But I did fancy the look of the swing on/off mounts for thier neater profile.

    I would assume your reciever is only compatible with a dove tail mount of some sort so the rail may give you more flexibility with mounting various scopes. Just remember to take the height of the rail into consideration when selecting the height of your rings.

    Having said all that you could reconsider whether or not the two scope option is realistic option. I've had various types of scopes, even tried red dot, on .22's and for the last 7 years I have stuck with a cheep 6-24x50 SF with balistic turrets for all my rimfire shooting. The QD option I've gone with is to allow me to change out a 8x56mm to something more suitable for driven game, on the very rare occasion I'll get to do it. If I had the money I'd go for a reliable scope with a low end magnification of 1.5 or so while haveing a objective of 44mm-ish.

    Now if you want the two scopes for [email protected] and giggles go for it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    Just came access theses "Ziegler ZP Scope Mount". Anybody any experience with them.


    Thats some cost £497.00!

    https://www.alanrhone-store.com/product_info.php?cPath=230&products_id=457


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Wow. Serious money.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    M

    There's a classic German design with a rail and claw system.

    Grew up with these in Germany. They are almost de reiguer on older guns over there.Exellent but very expensive and really do need professional fitting.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Just looking at the "Rusan pivot mount-picatinny rail. I expect my existing rings could still be used.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭ extremetaz


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Grew up with these in Germany. They are almost de reiguer on older guns over there.Exellent but very expensive and really do need professional fitting.

    I've an Anschutz rimfire with them on, and a hensoldt-wetzlar diavari sat on them. Vintage: 1967. Someone spent a hulluvalotta dosh getting it all put together but it's a work of art.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Came across two other quick release systems. Sako optilock and Leopold has a reasonably priced set up too. I came across the Optilock before. Anybody any experience of any of theses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭ tac foley


    SAKO Optilok fit only SAKO or Tikka rifles, AFAIK.


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