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Starting to cycle

  • 01-06-2019 10:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    Just bought a good second hand racing bike. I’m new to cycling so have very little equipment etc.

    Can anyone give me a list of items that I should definitely invest in? I will have to buy special cycling shoes for the pedals.

    Any advice or recommendations welcomed.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Bib-shorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Track pump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Lock , saddle bag, spare tubes , mini tool, tyre levers and pump . Lights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭Plastik


    Gore Shakedry stretch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Road bike?

    Shoes
    Shorts preferably bib shorts
    Helmet
    Lights

    Pump that fits to frame
    Tubes x 2 spare
    Tyre levers
    Multitool
    Chain lube
    Drink bottle and cage if none on bike

    Get on the road. Accumulate more once you get going.

    Today I was out for a spin on a reasonable summer day.
    Shoes, socks, bibshorts, light thermal, jersey, helmet.
    2 tubes, 3 levers, multitool - all in Jersey pockets
    2 bottles, pump, rear light - all on bike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭ckeego


    A bike fit and a membership form to join your local Cycling club.

    A number of clubs now run Couch to 50k programs (Bray Wheelers included) and it is a fantastic way of meeting other riders new to the sport.

    The advice and coaching you get is invaluable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What kind of cycling? Are you cycling to work or to lose weight or joining a club for serious spins or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭vikings2012


    What kind of cycling? Are you cycling to work or to lose weight or joining a club for serious spins or what?

    Road cycling with my newly acquired second hand racing bike. Nope not for work or weight loss just for leisure. Would like to be able to eventually do a 100km cycle on a Sunday etc.

    Have the bike ready, after getting a helmet, have a kit, need to get shorts and shoes still.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    You don't need the shoes unless your bike has pedals that need to be clipped in to fitted. Flat pedals and runners are good for starting as being clipped in has a slight learning curve to begin with.
    Definitely get some proper shorts with padding. Don't expect armchair-like comfort, but they will help. Bib shorts are the preferred option by many - they have sewn in straps that go over your shoulders to keep your shorts in place, but you can get some without the straps. A decent jersey (with pockets at the back) and a base layer should be on your list as well.
    The list can be as long or short as you want, but if you get into cycling you'll quickly find that your cycling wardrobe is larger than your normal clothing one (or is that just me??…) once you get a few sets of gear for all the weather possibilities you'll meet.
    If you don't know yet, learn how to fix a puncture. This WILL happen to you at some point, and probably when you're least prepared for it - ie miles from home and in the rain - so you need to be self sufficient.
    youtube has lots of good videos for a lot of cycling topics. I find GCN especially good for these, as well as park tools for maintenance help.

    enjoy :)


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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Once you have the bike and stuff for punctures then you should be on the road. The rest is nice to have but starting out I'd not worry about shoes and bibs etc just ride the bike and get that stuff when you can. Obviously on a longer spin you'll want to pad your arse and clip in.

    I was out for an hour today and didn't bother changing shorts or shoes , my pedals can be used with runners or cycling shoes clipped in. So cargo shorts and sketchers and a long sleeve top with a base layer under it. Good thing there was no sock police around as I'd ankle socks on too :pac:

    EDIT: Actually I'd consider glasses essential for keeping the bugs etc out of your eyes even at low speed. They are not just for looking cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭vikings2012


    You don't need the shoes unless your bike has pedals that need to be clipped in to fitted. Flat pedals and runners are good for starting as being clipped in has a slight learning curve to begin with.
    Definitely get some proper shorts with padding. Don't expect armchair-like comfort, but they will help. Bib shorts are the preferred option by many - they have sewn in straps that go over your shoulders to keep your shorts in place, but you can get some without the straps. A decent jersey (with pockets at the back) and a base layer should be on your list as well.
    The list can be as long or short as you want, but if you get into cycling you'll quickly find that your cycling wardrobe is larger than your normal clothing one (or is that just me??…) once you get a few sets of gear for all the weather possibilities you'll meet.
    If you don't know yet, learn how to fix a puncture. This WILL happen to you at some point, and probably when you're least prepared for it - ie miles from home and in the rain - so you need to be self sufficient.
    youtube has lots of good videos for a lot of cycling topics. I find GCN especially good for these, as well as park tools for maintenance help.

    enjoy :)

    Cheers, for the message. Currently my bike has the pedals for the clips. I might just buy flat pedals and put them on just so I can get started.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    what pedals are currently on it? if you're not sure, a photo of them will have them identified for you without much fuss here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Hi all,

    Total newbie here and looking to take up cycling. What should I be looking to spend if I want to get a decent road / racing bike ?

    I was in 360 in Clontarf last night and they seem to only have hybrid bikes with Flat bars, and a single carbon road bike but that was €€€€€. What is the sweet spot for a starter ?

    Also should I go straight for Clip in shoes or graduate into these ?

    I will probably join one of the local clubs, but not until i have a bit of basic experience gained.

    Tks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Re-above...

    Again a basic question but what do I get different from a racking bike costing say €500 versus one costing €1500 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭JMcL


    MisterDrak wrote: »
    Re-above...

    Again a basic question but what do I get different from a racking bike costing say €500 versus one costing €1500 ?

    Mostly lighter weight and better components. At €500 you'll be most likely looking at something with an alloy fork and probably Shimano Claris 8 speed groupset - all weighing probably 11kg. €1500 should get you a pretty top of the range alloy (i.e. aluminium) or lower range carbon fibre frame with carbon fibre forks, probably something like a Shimano 105 11 speed groupset, possibly hydraulic disc brakes, and weight in the 8-9kg range. All the above might be stretching €1500 but you'll certainly tick some of the boxes. €1500-€2000 is probably (in my opinion - others on here may well beg to differ :-D) the sweet spot in terms of value for money - above that the sky's the limit and with the exception of electronic shifting is generally diminishing returns.

    All that said, I bought a Specialized Allez for €800 on the bike to work scheme 9 years ago, and am still happily riding it having upgraded wheels, pedals, and groupset along the way. It's a more expensive way of ending up at the notional €1500 above, but is another way of doing it if you're unsure you'll like it longterm. Plus with enough use you'll have to replace a lot of bits over the years anyway. Weight also isn't everything, I have a steel framed bike I use for winter and exploring rougher roads which is north of 12kg but still loads of fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    JMcL wrote: »
    Mostly lighter weight and better components. At €500 you'll be most likely looking at something with an alloy fork and probably Shimano Claris 8 speed groupset - all weighing probably 11kg. €1500 should get you a pretty top of the range alloy (i.e. aluminium) or lower range carbon fibre frame with carbon fibre forks, probably something like a Shimano 105 11 speed groupset, possibly hydraulic disc brakes, and weight in the 8-9kg range. All the above might be stretching €1500 but you'll certainly tick some of the boxes. €1500-€2000 is probably (in my opinion - others on here may well beg to differ :-D) the sweet spot in terms of value for money - above that the sky's the limit and with the exception of electronic shifting is generally diminishing returns.

    All that said, I bought a Specialized Allez for €800 on the bike to work scheme 9 years ago, and am still happily riding it having upgraded wheels, pedals, and groupset along the way. It's a more expensive way of ending up at the notional €1500 above, but is another way of doing it if you're unsure you'll like it longterm. Plus with enough use you'll have to replace a lot of bits over the years anyway. Weight also isn't everything, I have a steel framed bike I use for winter and exploring rougher roads which is north of 12kg but still loads of fun

    Thanks JMcL,

    You mentioned weight there several times... Im lucky to be able to spend a bit on this, so should i just aim for the lightest option for a particular cost bracket ?

    Surely 1-2kg will not make to much difference, given that on my long runs for DCM I could loose 1-2 kg in 2 hours anyway ? What Im saying is, should bike weight be the deciding factor ?

    To fully explain, I'm getting on a bit and been running for 15 years at a decent competitive level. Knee / general joint stress is pushing me to cycling. When I do give up the running, probably this year, i will hit the cycling pretty hard so need something that I can rely on for longer spins / sportive's / rings etc.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I have a bike weighing about 8kg and one weighing about 11kg. The difference in speed unless doing a lot of hill climbing is negligible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭JMcL


    MisterDrak wrote: »
    Thanks JMcL,

    You mentioned weight there several times... Im lucky to be able to spend a bit on this, so should i just aim for the lightest option for a particular cost bracket ?

    Surely 1-2kg will not make to much difference, given that on my long runs for DCM I could loose 1-2 kg in 2 hours anyway ? What Im saying is, should bike weight be the deciding factor ?

    To fully explain, I'm getting on a bit and been running for 15 years at a decent competitive level. Knee / general joint stress is pushing me to cycling. When I do give up the running, probably this year, i will hit the cycling pretty hard so need something that I can rely on for longer spins / sportive's / rings etc.

    I wouldn't really worry too much about bike weight if you're just getting into it. For most people it's a cheaper and long term better solution to shed 3kg from the rider than the bike. When you get below about 8kg every extra gram is going to start costing. Just as a general indicator entry level Specialized Allez E5 and Giant Contend 1 are both around the 9.5kg mark, and both come in around the €8-900 ballpark, both are fine bikes, and a lot of weight will be probably in the wheelsets which would be my recommendation as first thing to upgrade when you've decided you like it. (Not saying get one of those necessarily though they're both grand bikes)

    You mention your knees - you should pay attention to the gearing. Most cheaper bikes will have a compact 34/50 crankset (the number of cogs respectively on the small and big chainwheels on the front), but pay attention to the cassette. You want to look for one that has at least 28 teeth in the smallest gear (i.e. biggest cog on the cassette), if you live somewhere hilly I'd think about 30 or even 32 (with a 34 tooth cassette and 34 tooth inner ring every turn of the pedals will equate to one full wheel rotation) - your knees will thank you for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox



    EDIT: Actually I'd consider glasses essential for keeping the bugs etc out of your eyes even at low speed. They are not just for looking cool.

    As a corollary to that I have discovered that cycling with the mouth too open is a recipe for disaster...or extra protein :o

    MisterDrak wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Total newbie here and looking to take up cycling. What should I be looking to spend if I want to get a decent road / racing bike ?

    I was in 360 in Clontarf last night and they seem to only have hybrid bikes with Flat bars, and a single carbon road bike but that was €€€€€. What is the sweet spot for a starter ?

    Also should I go straight for Clip in shoes or graduate into these ?

    I will probably join one of the local clubs, but not until i have a bit of basic experience gained.

    Tks...

    Look at adverts for used bikes - I got a bike with upgraded components that probably cost the owner €3000+ for 330 euro - all carbon fibre, €600 wheels, €1000 shimano components (back in the day) etc.

    Amazing value in 2nd hand - and I think if you buy from an athlete who is into and loves their bikes you often get them in top condition (they treat their bikes with care and service them appropriately vs the guy tossing it in the leaky shed).

    And hey if you love cycling great you can upgrade the 330 bike with even better components...if not I think you won't make too much of a loss selling it on (vs buying a new carbon fibre racer etc.)

    Only thing is you won't enjoy the new bike smell (is that even a thing?) and it's unlikely to be in perfect cosmetic condition - but hey for a 90% discount I'm perfectly happy with that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Thanks Lads, as Thirdfox suggested Im going to check the Adverts for a few weeks and see if there is a quality used bike available. If not ill make the jump anyway.

    Last word and regarding size of Frame Im 5:10 what should i look for, or just go and see if it fits on the day ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭MisterDrak


    Picked up my new bike yesterday. I eventually went for a Cube Attain from the Cycle superstore via the bike to work scheme.

    Went out for my first cycle in probably 25+ years last night. Shaky as hell, and as nervous as I was starting to drive.

    Got in a whole 10K, mostly on the cycle track around Raheny, and the causeway road to Dollymount.

    Unfortunately had a crash towards the end, as i just lost control, trying to avoid walkers on the bike lane.

    Still going to hit the training hard for the next 2-3 weeks, and have registered for the Dublin Bike ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Ok Background.

    I'm sure cycling forum sick of these lads back on bikes after years off it and asking daft question , can't stay straight on the road and are a a pain in the hole and have a pain in the hole.

    Anyway - spent the last few years trying to master golf and did ok getting down to a handicap below 5 , hitting a bit of a wall there.

    Then a few people close to me got sick, one passing away. It knocked the bollix out of me to be honest. I lost a bit of motivation, put on weight and lost a bit of direction.

    Did a bit of cycling in my early 30s and got to an ok level , Wicklow 100. Was never a mad fan of long long cycles and 40 to 60 Km was always my favorite distance.

    Used the golf forum as a fantastic location for information and to be honest motivation to hit goals, met great friends over there and had a great laugh with it.

    I'm very very goal orientated and get very motivated by a target.

    So what is my target ?, I'm not sure I fully know this yet,,, but........

    Goals
    Improve overall fitness
    lose 15 kg +
    Cycle Hill of Howth both direction in one go.
    Get up to a 60 km cycle (may add a time here)

    Bad outcome
    Injury / fall
    Anything to interfere with golf (still core sport)


    Day 1 (was last week)

    Son back in school , so by basically no choice, accident , I had to pull out the 10 year old racer (Terry Dolan (mid lower range)) , get back in order (can do this kind of stuff myself) work everything out again and back on the road.

    enjoyed the short cycle (except the bus lanes a bit crazy) and decided to just keep going , was like Forrest Gump, out to the north coast road along the Clontarf Cycle lane (luxury stuff). It is a fantastic job they have done. You remember the wind on your back , the sun out and world seems perfect for a day. Eventually with almost everyone passing me by I got to Sutton. I sat with the wealthy , retired and had a coffee out there. A new culture that wasn't as prominent 10 years ago when I last cycled out there.

    Sitting in Sutton for one mad moment I asked myself will I go on, no, that would be a bit mad for day 1. I turned and cycled the same route into the wind this time and it was horrible hard and I suddenly remembered what proper cycling shorts are about, as I half stood and tried to get up off the seat. Pathetic, a very short ride.

    A few days after , I sort of felt my hamstrings a bit tight , lower back a bit stiff - seems nuts , could have been something else.

    Day 2 (Today)

    Cycled daughter to School - proper clothing shorts on , drink etc - but decided not to clip in , long time off bike, so just want to ease into handling etc. Set out with no real plan and that is probably a bad start. From Raheny hit Baldoyle , Sutton, then into Howth. As I hit Howth , i got great flashbacks of my past golfing and cycling and great days with people passed on and the dart, and the food out there and the pubs. I also had a bad fall as you turn up the hill there once on an Oil Spill , I think it knocked a bit of confidence out of me. But anyway - the past. For some daft reason and perhaps muscles and mind memory I just kept going , straight up the hill - was crazy. Hit the church and forgot how serious a drag it was - hit the wall :D, stopped heart head everything in pain. What the hell am I doing. I decided to walk a bit, yes walk with a bike. What a facepalm :D:eek:.

    Lads in all the gear were flying by , men in 50s/60s looking at me pushing a bike up Howth Head (laughing too) , a head and arse the size of Howth head . After recovery got back on and off a few time and eventually hit the summit and went up to the upper summit for the view of the lighthouse.

    Tourisits and cyclists up admiring the great windy view.

    At least it is all downhill now. I jumped back on and enjoyed the force of gravity with my mass advantage. I hit 45 kph , but hit the brakes a bit , too early for that stuff. Hit the coast again and that horrible wind.

    Total 27 km on day 2.

    I'm back - started all wrong - but the hardest part is the start.

    Was talking to a golf friend , told him I'm back on the bike over a few pints. He said it is useless for losing weight , "good for power" , "but you got to get to the gym and high cardio for weight ". I'm not sure , golfers talk a lot of **** over pints. :D

    Sorry for long post,

    Any tips useful , how do I ease in in a more sensible way and any core stuff I should do to avoid injury , lower back and legs ?

    Fix.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Was talking to a golf friend , told him I'm back on the bike over a few pints. He said it is useless for losing weight , "good for power" , "but you got to get to the gym and high cardio for weight ". I'm not sure , golfers talk a lot of **** over pints. :D
    i know YMMV, but i lost about 10% of my body weight after getting back into cycling again; went from 80KG to about 72KG - and that was without any change in diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    i know YMMV, but i lost about 10% of my body weight after getting back into cycling again; went from 80KG to about 72KG - and that was without any change in diet.

    Yes - was thinking , use energy lose weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Yes - was thinking , use energy lose weight.

    Or, in my case, use energy, pull chair up to fridge when I get home...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    Yea I went from about 105 to 92kg in the space of a year commuting with no change in diet. However I was doing literally no exercise for a year or so prior to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Yea I went from about 105 to 92kg in the space of a year commuting with no change in diet. However I was doing literally no exercise for a year or so prior to that.

    distance per week.

    suppose that is two cycles a day for 5 days . And a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    distance per week.

    suppose that is two cycles a day for 5 days . And a year.

    A bit over 100km a week so nothing significant.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that's maybe five hours, at 400 calories an hours, it's the guts of a day's normal calorie intake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    that's maybe five hours, at 400 calories an hours, it's the guts of a day's normal calorie intake.

    Jesus it's mad when you put it like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Well , week 2.

    Got out for 2 very short cycles and then 1 big one (for me) today.

    A few things in preparation that I learned from last time. I left it till about 2 hours after eating before I went out, last time was eat and straight out. I also had better clothing and got clipped in for the first time in about 8 years.

    And what a joy to be clipped in again, a bit nervous at start, but everything about it was so much better, the power felt. That sense of a continuous power and that pull I didn't have last time.

    When I got home I did loosen the clips a little as was a bit slow to get out at traffic lights a few times.

    I also set out with a better plan - 10% extra distance and go to the softer side of Howth Head and do not go all the way up.

    The conditions today were fantastic, the usual coastil wind , but the perfect temperature between summer and winter , I guess you could call it autumnal bliss.

    A couple of observations on cycling, as fresh eyes back to cycling after 8 years. There has been great effort on some NEW infrastructure , but the old stuff with the red surfaces are at this stage, in a pathetic condition. We need to maintain what we have too, and all that stuff from the what the early 2000s ? needs a full revamp.

    I know this may come as a shock to the cycling forum , but I find 90 % of drivers unbelievably respectful of cyclists versus what I remember, adds on tv must have worked. The amount of people on mobile phones is unreal and you see it more on a bike.

    Such an enjoyable day. I think I could have pushed myself a bit more up the hill ( I went about 50% of the way), but said I wanted to finish the day feeling good this time versus the overreaching first time out.

    Except on howth head, I decided to not let bike ever fall below 20 kph, I know this is pathetic , but one step at a time , I'll work this figure up to 30 kph as the weeks go by. First time out i noticed how easy it is just to be floating along below 20 kph and its hardly exercise at all.

    So 33 km. A very gentle cycle , but said I better be more sensible , ease myself back in and see where the bike takes me.

    I think I did notice I was cycling with far too much dominance on right leg, I tried working my left leg a bit more for a while (is there such an exercise for your weaker leg?)

    Target for next week hit 40km on one spin and 75 % up Howth Hill Sutton Side.

    I'm still probably setting targets too demanding.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I know this may come as a shock to the cycling forum , but I find 90 % of drivers unbelievably respectful of cyclists
    to be fair, i don't think you'll get much argument on that here. the vast majority of drivers are fine; it's the 5% or 10% who are not which gives us cause to moan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The terrible driving is commuter runs at rush hour. Outside that you see a lot less shenanigans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    to be fair, i don't think you'll get much argument on that here. the vast majority of drivers are fine; it's the 5% or 10% who are not which gives us cause to moan.


    While there is some truth to this, it's worth remembering that RSA research shows that four out of five drivers break speed limits. The recent Liberty survey shows that the majority of drivers use their mobile phones at the wheel.

    ED E wrote: »
    The terrible driving is commuter runs at rush hour. Outside that you see a lot less shenanigans.
    I'm not so sure. In slower, heavier traffic, I see more drivers on their phones, probably due to the sheer boredom of car commuting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭hesker


    On golf and cycling......

    It’s hard to find the time to do both.

    Like you I put a fair bit of effort into golf and played off as low as 6. I took up cycling for a new diversion and almost dropped playing golf altogether except maybe 4-5 rounds a year. I thought my golf form would hold as I reckoned I had a really good understanding of the fundamentals. Sadly it has slipped away, more so in the wedge play than anything else.

    So if you want to hold on to your golf form then you need to devote equal time to both I reckon. And that is hard to do if you are goal orientated and you take on a new activity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    no doubt cycling can be very time consuming if you really get into it unless you are semi retired being good at golf as well as cycling must be near impossible might be a reason for some good bike for sale now and then .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    An update.

    What a crazy year - can't believe I posted a year ago. I had great plans to get to serious targets a year ago - then bang , covid, work, life, kids off school.

    The good news - I'm back on the bike in a big way again and just this week hit over the 100 km in the week . I know this is not much from reading around here. But considering I was coming from a low enough base . I'm delighted to hit the 100 km.

    I'm hoping to make this 150 km this week and work towards 200 km in the next month.

    I got seriously going again once kids got back to school. I was cycling with them but covid cycling with kids - is kind of useless for core fitness.

    My target was to do a wicklow 100/200 - and not sure where that is now ?
    I'd consider something different if any ideas.

    This is my first real winter cycling - I've all the gear and have been pleasantly surprised how manageable it is - was even out today in the wild wind , but was bizarrely pleasant

    Obvioulsy the 5 km - is a bit of a nightmare - but I can cycle to work and this is helping with the kms and with the boredom. I'm dying to hit the hills in Wicklow or Howth.

    Before the lockdown - I had climbed Howth head 3 times. Was getting easier each time. Slow and everyone bombs past me. But I'm probably 30 kg heavier :D

    I've watched a few you tube videos and I'll be honest , to lose weight cycling you need to put in serious time and effort. These people are talking years with good KMs.

    Saw a great tip - just enjoy the journey and let the rest happen. And just loving the new / renewed feeling of being out in the open and seeing the world on a bike. We are doing a great job of learning to use our city and coast - and whilst a long way to go - the infrastructure is coming.

    I had a weak moment during the week and started looking at 2nd hand bikes - my bike is 15 years old - but A Terry Dolan TC2 compact - alloy frame carbon forks - 105 group set. I've forgotten how much I spent on it (about 1600 euro). I'd love to even try a bike at a higher spec , but gave myself a chat and said - put in the big kms over a few months - lose about 5 kg more and then see how I feel.

    But I do love love the look of the new bikes - but not sure where my bank would rank in modern equivalent.

    I also realized how slow I'm going - in wind in winter - I think my average is about 20kph - people just flying by me. It is all way to casual and I need to put way more effort into my cycle. I go for the odd dart and run with favorable conditions.

    Anyway - onwards and upwards . looking forward to the next week, but again maybe I've been lucky with the temperatures.
    Or maybe my 10 years of golf have me just better clothed and more ready for what this crazy , wonderful world can throw at me.

    Howth Head twice in one go my next big target. When I can do that , I don't know. December 1st

    Any tips welcome.

    I think I may have to get a fixed trainer for the shed at this time of year / covid distance restrictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    indoor trainer is handy to have will mean you should be able to do a bit each day even though it can i feel be a bit tedious at times i listen to music while i do it .You do not need a high spec one to get your fitness up if you do get one you have to use a different tyre on your trainer to the one you use on the road you may get a spare wheel unless you want to swop over the tyre each time .The trainers are hard on tyres so unless you have several part used tyres you should buy a trainer tyre .A second hand rear wheel you can use for the trainer is the easiest if you are going out on the road and using the trainer .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Not a fan of indoor training. Depending on where you live, you can still get plenty of cycling done within a 5k radius. I've used strava to map out a route that takes in every road within my 5k radius. Total distance is 96k! It can be done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Mainly from a weather point of view or when the roads get a bit slippy that i think a trainer can keep you ticking over that is why a basic one is all i have i much prefer to go out on the road .It also might depend on time available to go out .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Mainly from a weather point of view or when the roads get a bit slippy that i think a trainer can keep you ticking over that is why a basic one is all i have i much prefer to go out on the road .It also might depend on time available to go out .

    On this.

    Anyone any comments on what sort of KMs I should be targeting - to get to a sort of intermediate level , from where I am now (70 to 100 km a week)

    Also - I haven't a clue about winter cycling - I have slight groves (very slight on my tyres) - should I deficiently change these for winter.

    I guess I'll call into 360 Cycles in Clontarf have them take a look.

    Also - one last question - what sort of price range is my bike new this day an age.

    To be honest - I don't know anyone into road cycling - everyone I know is a golfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Bikes don't aquaplane, tread doesn't matter. The type of rubber used can make an impact. Gators are like ice skates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    On this.

    Anyone any comments on what sort of KMs I should be targeting - to get to a sort of intermediate level , from where I am now (70 to 100 km a week)

    Also - I haven't a clue about winter cycling - I have slight groves (very slight on my tyres) - should I deficiently change these for winter.

    I guess I'll call into 360 Cycles in Clontarf have them take a look.

    Also - one last question - what sort of price range is my bike new this day an age.

    To be honest - I don't know anyone into road cycling - everyone I know is a golfer.

    How much free time have you? If you want to improve your fitness from a low level there's no secret way of doing it, just ride more, if you start to feel tired take a few days off or very easy then kick on again. Two things will happen, your average speed will increase and the time you can sustain it for will increase.

    In non covid times I'd advise joining a local club, the company makes things go easier but that's not going to be an option for a while, use the time to get your basic fitness up.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Anyone any comments on what sort of KMs I should be targeting - to get to a sort of intermediate level , from where I am now (70 to 100 km a week)
    What are you able to allocate to cycling?
    It's not all about distance. For some people its elevation (doing lots and lots of hills). For others its simply about being out in the fresh air, taking in the views that you never see when you're driving.
    Assuming that you live in or around Clontarf, then make use of the Sutton to Clontarf cycle track. You should easily be able to do that a few times a week. Have you considered Howth (maybe start by going up and down on the Graveyard side)?
    Can you commute by bike once or twice a week?
    Also - I haven't a clue about winter cycling - I have slight groves (very slight on my tyres) - should I deficiently change these for winter.
    I'm on Schwalbe Ones and they're fine in this weather but thre are loads of brands and "models". Talk to your LBS and see what they advise for you.
    More importantly, make sure that your clothing keeps you warm and dry. In my view, rain is fine but the wind is what makes a ride difficult for me.
    I guess I'll call into 360 Cycles in Clontarf have them take a look.
    Good idea.
    We're here to help also if you have any questions.
    Also - one last question - what sort of price range is my bike new this day an age.
    How long is a piece of string.
    Depends on brand, build type (road or mountain or hybrid), aluminium or carbon fibre build, wheels, groupset (chainset and brakes) e.g. Shimano 105 or Shimano Ultegra or whatever
    To be honest - I don't know anyone into road cycling - everyone I know is a golfer.
    As already mentioned, once the lockdown is over, contact your local cycling club. You'll meet a load of like-minded people living in your area and you can learn loads from them. It's good craic being in a club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Much appreciate the help and feedback. I got the same good will and help on golf forum when I took on a similar goal.

    On the target - I've done Howth head a few times - and think I need something much bigger to work towards - maybe the Wicklow 200 makes most sense.

    I'm not a complete beginner - so thread title probably not the right one. I'm returning to cycling.

    I might start my own thread.

    Again thanks to all.

    Of course did the daft thing and went out and got a new (2nd hand bike) think it was a great deal.
    Dolan Le'Tepe Carbon Ultegra group set - was only about 500 km on bike and was 1100 euro.

    I'm delighted with myself. Got out for 30 km on it - but were horrendous conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    nilhg wrote: »
    How much free time have you? If you want to improve your fitness from a low level there's no secret way of doing it, just ride more, if you start to feel tired take a few days off or very easy then kick on again. Two things will happen, your average speed will increase and the time you can sustain it for will increase.

    In non covid times I'd advise joining a local club, the company makes things go easier but that's not going to be an option for a while, use the time to get your basic fitness up.

    I think I have about 10 hours a week.

    I'm thinking I should be able to get up to 200 km in that time.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Looks like a nice bike based on the ad up on adverts.ie.
    I'd still recommend that you make contact with your localk cycling club though. Makes a spin more social and you'll learn lots from more experienced riders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Looks like a nice bike based on the ad up on adverts.ie.
    I'd still recommend that you make contact with your localk cycling club though. Makes a spin more social and you'll learn lots from more experienced riders.

    I will do.

    I'm fairly used to solo practice from golf and probably feel too slow to be in a club.

    But will check it out.

    What sort of average speed do clubs do - on a group cycle ?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I'm thinking I should be able to get up to 200 km in that time.
    200km will be tough going and will take about 8-10 hours.
    If you're still relatively new to it, then maybe set more achievable goals. Maybe get a few 100km spins done before looking at doubling it.


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