The best evidence for alien civilizations and the media isn't interested?

badabing106

Can any after hours scientists explain these occurrences? Could they be weather balloons?

This footage is from 2004 and was leaked in the last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9D8dzl4zGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVRg7LLaQA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/28/ufos-exist-everyone-needs-adjust-that-fact/


"There are several unusual things about this sighting. For one, the UFO does not have an hot exhaust trail typical of that emitted by any sort of conventional turbine engine. In fact, the UFO appears “cold” to the ATFLIR sensor, emitting no heat at all."


Could it be a weather balloon caught in a gulf stream perhaps?

maccored

theres quite a few recent media reports about US pilots talking about UFOs they are convinced they've seen

I see sheep

I couldn't care less tbh

maccored

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rossie1977

I would imagine if someone had the technology to traverse trillions of miles to get here they wouldn't be buzzing around in our atmosphere waiting to be spotted.

maccored

I see sheep wrote: »

I couldn't care less tbh

it always amazes me when people who couldnt care less take the time to post in a thread about something they couldnt care less about :pac:

Glass fused light

Name the movie where "we" welcome "them" and live, happy ever after.

MeMen2_MoRi_

badabing106 wrote: »

Can any after hours scientists explain these occurrences? Could they be weather balloons?

This footage is from 2004 and was leaked in the last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9D8dzl4zGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVRg7LLaQA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/28/ufos-exist-everyone-needs-adjust-that-fact/


"There are several unusual things about this sighting. For one, the UFO does not have an hot exhaust trail typical of that emitted by any sort of conventional turbine engine. In fact, the UFO appears “cold” to the ATFLIR sensor, emitting no heat at all."


Could it be a weather balloon caught in a gulf stream perhaps?

It was reported in the media when it was released op last year. It wasn't "leaked" it was officially released because they were closing down the specially set up department to investigate it iirc.

Poor Uncle Tom

yawn, until I can put my fingers in their holes...., oh wait that's a totally different alien, never mind.

StereoSound

There could be intelligent life forms at the same level as us trillions of miles away, who have identified our planet through their telescopes and wondering if there is any life here.. "Strange unknown radio signals emitting from this strange world"

Their could be other intelligent life forms a bit more advanced then us, but not by a massive amount who have already positively identified Earth as a planet teeming with life, yet they don't have the technology to actually get to us or communicate with us yet, but their rulers are strenuously working on ways and maybe already getting close to making contact.

There could be absolute superior beings who have already mastered traveling of the entire universe who are afraid to approach us in case we all here on earth go into a big melt down of fear or worse, therefore they feel it better to leave us be until a point comes where our self defense technology would make us feel more confident to deal with interstellar contact.

Who knows what is out there, no one has been to the other side of the universe and no one knows how big it is or where it ends. People see space as up there and we are down here, but Earth is in space floating up there so we are in space to. We are the aliens to other worldly places out there.

ArchXStanton

Birds

kiyo wiri ku

Glass fused light wrote: »

Name the movie where "we" welcome "them" and live, happy ever after.

The day the Earth stood still

badabing106

rossie1977 wrote: »

I would imagine if someone had the technology to traverse trillions of miles to get here they wouldn't be buzzing around in our atmosphere waiting to be spotted.

How would you know what they think?

TuringBot47

Glass fused light wrote: »

Name the movie where "we" welcome "them" and live, happy ever after.

Close encounters of the third kind.
2001, 2010

There all sorts of conspiracies about an alien base on the moon. Through UFO crash recoveries the various superpowers probably deduced a few breakthroughs to incorporate into their own weapons/craft.

I could imagine major scientific discoveries that are being held back if they could be weaponised. Until we have a world government to control it, it'll be suppressed.

Fourier

To actually traverse between stars you have to be able to manipulate god-like energies. These would be civilizations that have control over stellar mechanics and probably access to levels of reality beyond our current understanding. And then they play hide and seek in the sky.

bodhrandude

StereoSound wrote: »

There could be intelligent life forms at the same level as us trillions of miles away, who have identified our planet through their telescopes and wondering if there is any life here.. "Strange unknown radio signals emitting from this strange world"

Their could be other intelligent life forms a bit more advanced then us, but not by a massive amount who have already positively identified Earth as a planet teeming with life, yet they don't have the technology to actually get to us or communicate with us yet, but their rulers are strenuously working on ways and maybe already getting close to making contact.

There could be absolute superior beings who have already mastered traveling of the entire universe who are afraid to approach us in case we all here on earth go into a big melt down of fear or worse, therefore they feel it better to leave us be until a point comes where our self defense technology would make us feel more confident to deal with interstellar contact.

Who knows what is out there, no one has been to the other side of the universe and no one knows how big it is or where it ends. People see space as up there and we are down here, but Earth is in space floating up there so we are in space to. We are the aliens to other worldly places out there.

Can you imagine them tuning into the FM Frequency and picking up this: :D

badabing106

Fourier wrote: »

To actually traverse between stars you have to be able to manipulate god-like energies. These would be civilizations that have control over stellar mechanics and probably access to levels of reality beyond our current understanding. And they play hide and seek in the sky.

What you are describing is most religions in the world today?

Ipso

Fourier wrote: »

To actually traverse between stars you have to be able to manipulate god-like energies. These would be civilizations that have control over stellar mechanics and probably access to levels of reality beyond our current understanding. And then they play hide and seek in the sky.

Yeah, they'e a bit shy actually. Some expert on UFOs will give you all the details, I really trust experts in areas where there is no hard evidence.

ToddyDoody

I heard the FBI had the xfiles secretly taken off air.

fly_agaric

Fourier wrote: »

To actually traverse between stars you have to be able to manipulate god-like energies. These would be civilizations that have control over stellar mechanics and probably access to levels of reality beyond our current understanding. And then they play hide and seek in the sky.

Maybe they (or their machines) are stuck for things to do with all their God like power and "magical" technology + use a bit of it to keep an eye on the "savages".

ILoveYourVibes

Nah best evidence for it is this.

https://www.livescience.com/64457-scientists-have-discovered-a-mysterious-repeating-radio-signal-from-deep-space.html

Your Face

Probably a crazy top secret prototype being tested by the US navy.

Atlantic Dawn

Almost every citizen in the civilised world has a phone capable of recording outsanding quality video of these 'events' but in the last 10 years for me there's not been a single clip I have seen that is credible. Sadly we are here on our own forever folks.

M.T. Cranium

I think probably we are "one of those places" to aliens so they just don't come here.

whisky_galore

rossie1977 wrote: »

I would imagine if someone had the technology to traverse trillions of miles to get here they wouldn't be buzzing around in our atmosphere waiting to be spotted.

It's kind of like Christopher Columbus dodging and arsing about off the coasts of the Americas for more than a half century instead of making landfall and invading...I mean meeting the natives...properly.

It's always some fücking arse end of nowhere in Finland or Nevada they muck about, never Washington DC or London or wherever.
Just have a mass invasion and get it over with.

ILoveYourVibes

They have probably seen our history and are scared of us.

Zorya

Maybe there are other dimensions simultaneously existing and sometimes stuff leaks through. Maybe this"world" is a mass mental projection. Maybe a bazillion things. It's funny how people can presume that we are on course all the time to figuring things out. Seems to me the more we know the weirder everything becomes. The whole set up is so vast and so unlikely. And nobody has any provable idea about what is really going on. It's literally fantastic. Woohoo!

Atoms for Peace

What if Jesus was a alien envoy and we killed him?

Blazer

Originally these pilots didn't see anything themselves and it was all seen on their new radar systems which suggests bugs /glitches.
As someone pointed out there's no way aliens would pop over to earth and just zip along in their space ships like that.
I really believe there's life out there. The universe is far too big and I always hoped that maybe in my lifetime I would find out if this was true or not.
But then I read another piece by a scientist who mentioned that any probability of humans meeting aliens is practically zero.
Its not that he didn't believe in them, he does, but that the distances between galaxies and clusters are so mind bogglingly huge that no space race would be able to traverse the distances. Even ships that ran long term stasis pods still wouldn't be enough.
Our only real hope is that there's species in the milky way itself really.And even still our chances are slim to none. Even if we had ships that travelled close to light speed the distances are still too far.

Take a look at the below video for how big the universe really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7NzjCmUf0

M.T. Cranium

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

I think probably we are "one of those places" to aliens so they just don't come here.

Yeah, a bit like Waterford. You know it exists in theory, but why would you go there when there are so many other options.

evolving_doors

I Seen better quality picture on Crimecall .

Wanderer78

We re alone, get over it

ILoveYourVibes

Zorya wrote: »

Maybe there are other dimensions simultaneously existing and sometimes stuff leaks through. Maybe this"world" is a mass mental projection. Maybe a bazillion things. It's funny how people can presume that we are on course all the time to figuring things out. Seems to me the more we know the weirder everything becomes. The whole set up is so vast and so unlikely. And nobody has any provable idea about what is really going on. It's literally fantastic. Woohoo!

Think of it this way a cube in 4d becomes a tesseract.

Its an abstract concept but one that is central to philosophy maths and physics.

4D adds time to space.

P.D Ouspensky was a russian philosopher he wrote a book called , Tertium organum. If you are a philosophy student and your memory needs jogging this is the guy that negated Aristotle's formula for A is A. Its the same guy. I think he came up with the idea of a hypercube which was a precursor to the tesseract. But he only described it. But as far as i know he was the first to describe the concept. I mean he was the first to relate the hyper cube to a 4d cube and describe it.

Then this guy Claude Bragdon who was an architect who designed the hypercube. He then made so much money he felt he had to track P.D Ouspensky down to pay him some of the money he got.

Einstein had already come up with spacetime ..fusing time to the 3 dimensions of our dimension. But its not really asking what this might be conceptualized as for normal people. What would a cube seem like to a fourth dimensional being?

There was an article in scientific american in 1939 (many years after) called 'visualizing Hyperspace'. It brought it to the forefront again.

It is just a concept though a concept that is useful in maths and philosophy (logic). But Einsteins theory of relativity and spacetime seemed to point towards it as not just a concept but as a reality.

The hypercube became the tesseract as a model of what a cube would be in a fourth dimension of course only visualized in our third dimension.

It gets all quantum mechanicy now...

Then scientists began to visualize OTHER fourth dimensional phenomena in our third dimension.

It gets REALLY interesting when you start to thing about electrons passing through a fourth dimension conceptually.

Scientists found away to measure the effects of a 4th dimension on materials like 2d electrons. It didn't show a 4th dimension however.

https://physicsworld.com/a/quantum-hall-effect-in-4d-is-created-in-the-lab/

Philosophers (usually logicians) mathematicians etc like to consider it as a concept useful to learn new things.

As far as i know ....Einstein is the only one to have really put his rep on the line and say I predict they will find one. Its clear that einstein could certainly THINK in 4 dimensions and do maths in 4d ...:p (im just makin this up)

Its Einsteins theory ..the fourth dimension is the baby he was never able to prove.

So if Einstein predicts there is a fourth dimension that is good enough for me.








Oh just to say ..some people call fourth dimensional space ..hyperspace.

Fourier

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its Einsteins theory ..the fourth dimension is the baby he was never able to prove.

General Relativity was proven to be correct by the 1950s, its first experimental evidence came in 1919.

He made time and space aspects of a single realm spacetime. Basically they're different directions in spacetime like East and North are different directions on the Earth's surface. The mathematics for the theory had been formulated back in the 19th century by others, but never applied to a physical theory prior to him.

Tests to see if there are other spatial dimensions have all come back negative. It's been tested pretty stringently by now. Our spacetime/universe doesn't have more than four dimensions according to all experimental tests.

Duckworth_Luas

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What if Jesus was a alien envoy and we killed him?

And then he rose from the dead?

Stark

Glass fused light wrote: »

Name the movie where "we" welcome "them" and live, happy ever after.

Star Trek: First Contact

ILoveYourVibes

Fourier wrote: »

General Relativity was proven to be correct by the 1950s, its first experimental evidence came in 1919.

He made time and space aspects of a single realm spacetime. Basically they're different directions in spacetime like East and North are different directions on the Earth's surface. The mathematics for the theory had been formulated back in the 19th century by others, but never applied to a physical theory prior to him.

Tests to see if there are other spatial dimensions have all come back negative. It's been tested pretty stringently by now. Our spacetime/universe doesn't have more than four dimensions according to all experimental tests.

Veerrrrry iiiiiinteresting!

Other notable names might be Minkowski and David Hilbert who were bestest friends of Einstein :P . Hilbert actually applied it to a physical theory before Einstein.


Whatever about their reality 5th dimensions and others are useful concepts in logic philosophy and maths for other things. Its useful for screw theory for one.

Sometimes you have to imagine things that don't exist to solve problems that do exist.

Einsteins theory hasn't been disproven in 100 yrs. He never got the change to falsify it in his lifetime. And even now quantum mechanics is notoriously hard to falsify physically.

String theory has been disproven. Many times. But that is one theory about multi dimensions. Yes theories about multi dimensions have been disproven. BUT multi dimensions would explain the strange behavior of quantum particles.

That is why quantum mechanics and logicians keep imagining it ..because it solves other issues. Saying theories about something have been disproven is different to saying some THING a phenomena has been disproven.

It would explain a lot. If it were true. But of course you have to keep it as a concept really for now. Buts a really useful one.

I wouldn't say we are that certain there is a 4th dimension yet either.

General Relativity has not been proven ...I know i put it like that ...but a theory can't be proven it can only be disproven ...GR still stands after 100 yrs. Its good!

I see sheep

maccored wrote: »

it always amazes me when people who couldnt care less take the time to post in a thread about something they couldnt care less about :pac:

You misunderstood my post.

The thread is about the media not being interested in whether aliens exist.

That doesn't surprise, because as I couldn't care less about whether aliens exist, I assume a lot of people feel the same.

Hope this clears things up.

Cheers

ILoveYourVibes

I am not just a tourist in here i am really interested in aliens!

Dufflecoat Fanny

Since when do the USAF hire surfers dude

Yermande

I see sheep wrote: »

You misunderstood my post.

The thread is about the media not being interested in whether aliens exist.

That doesn't surprise, because as I couldn't care less about whether aliens exist, I assume a lot of people feel the same.

Hope this clears things up.

Cheers

I don't believe you. I think you're embarrassed by how many likes his post has received and you're coming up with that to try save face.

Gwynplaine

Marty Morrisey is all the evidence you need.

I see sheep

Yermande wrote: »

I don't believe you. I think you're embarrassed by how many likes his post has received and you're coming up with that to try save face.

I've read the first post of hundreds of threads and seen that I have no interest in the topic, why do you think I'd suddenly decide to post in this one that I do't care?

Stop moaning ffs

The first definite proof that there is intelligent life out there, is that they don’t come here

Calvin and Hobbes said that.

Yermande

I see sheep wrote: »

I've read the first post of hundreds of threads and seen that I have no interest in the topic, why do you think I'd suddenly decide to post in this one that I do't care?

I couldn't care less tbh.

Blazer

Blazer wrote: »

Originally these pilots didn't see anything themselves and it was all seen on their new radar systems which suggests bugs /glitches.
As someone pointed out there's no way aliens would pop over to earth and just zip along in their space ships like that.
I really believe there's life out there. The universe is far too big and I always hoped that maybe in my lifetime I would find out if this was true or not.
But then I read another piece by a scientist who mentioned that any probability of humans meeting aliens is practically zero.
Its not that he didn't believe in them, he does, but that the distances between galaxies and clusters are so mind bogglingly huge that no space race would be able to traverse the distances. Even ships that ran long term stasis pods still wouldn't be enough.
Our only real hope is that there's species in the milky way itself really.And even still our chances are slim to none. Even if we had ships that travelled close to light speed the distances are still too far.

Take a look at the below video for how big the universe really is.

we'll have to do an aul intergenerational ship
https://www.popsci.com/realistic-generational-spaceship#page-4

I see sheep

Yermande wrote: »

I couldn't care less tbh.

Then why'd you post about it ya stupid ****?

Sin City

Somethings out there:D

Yermande

I see sheep wrote: »

Then why'd you post about it ya stupid ****?

Whoosh!

Sonics2k

Glass fused light wrote: »

Name the movie where "we" welcome "them" and live, happy ever after.

Star Trek

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Blazer wrote: »

Originally these pilots didn't see anything themselves and it was all seen on their new radar systems which suggests bugs /glitches.
As someone pointed out there's no way aliens would pop over to earth and just zip along in their space ships like that.
I really believe there's life out there. The universe is far too big and I always hoped that maybe in my lifetime I would find out if this was true or not.
But then I read another piece by a scientist who mentioned that any probability of humans meeting aliens is practically zero.
Its not that he didn't believe in them, he does, but that the distances between galaxies and clusters are so mind bogglingly huge that no space race would be able to traverse the distances. Even ships that ran long term stasis pods still wouldn't be enough.
Our only real hope is that there's species in the milky way itself really.And even still our chances are slim to none. Even if we had ships that travelled close to light speed the distances are still too far.

Pretty much what I think too.