The driver also had 215 previous convictions

RasTa

including 14 for dangerous driving including 3 hit and runs. He was also serving a 25 year driving ban at the time.

In the courts again for knocking down two people causing catastrophic injuries.

Guess the sentence?

Sky King

RasTa wrote: »

Guess the sentence?

"Something something travellers"?

Effects

RasTa wrote: »

Guess the sentence?

I'll go with 7 years.

El_Bee

a stern warning from the judge that NEXT time, there could be consequences.

Dtp1979

Because he hasn’t hit the 230 strikes and your out quota, I’m gonna guess a suspended sentence?

punisher5112

Effects wrote: »

I'll go with 7 years.

Suspended or 7 months suspended..... I'm sure you are mistaken or actually having a laugh.

Kimbot

Care to add a link OP?

Grayson

Kimbot wrote: »

Care to add a link OP?

Do you think that would raise or lower the outrage level?

kirving

215 previous convictions

And that only for the things he was caught for...

RasTa

8 years, with 18 months suspended and 1 year back dated...

https://www.thejournal.ie/paul-connelly-eight-and-half-years-for-man-who-drove-into-pedestrians-on-footpath-after-taking-drugs-and-alcohol-4619152-May2019/

Kimbot

Grayson wrote: »

Do you think that would raise or lower the outrage level?

No but I do think it will stop me from closing off the thread

mloc123

"He said his client had a difficult family background and started drinking as a 14-year-old"

mloc123

mloc123 wrote: »

"He said his client had a difficult family background and started drinking as a 14-year-old"

Usual BS trotted out, his solicitor is every bit as morally repugnant.

jam_mac_jam

That happened near where I live, its very busy and I am surprised he didn't do more damage. Driving his kid to school.

Allinall

I’m so not outraged.

Effects

Deleted User wrote: »

Usual BS trotted out, his solicitor is every bit as morally repugnant.

Everyone is entitled to fair representation in court though.

amcalester

I think the real shock here is that his kid goes to school.

El_Duderino 09

RasTa wrote: »

8 years, with 18 months suspended and 1 year back dated...

https://www.thejournal.ie/paul-connelly-eight-and-half-years-for-man-who-drove-into-pedestrians-on-footpath-after-taking-drugs-and-alcohol-4619152-May2019/

8 years sounds considerable. What do you think they should have gotten?

Fr_Dougal

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

8 years sounds considerable. What do you think they should have gotten?

Tell that to the young law student that he left with brain damage.

El_Duderino 09

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Tell that to the young law student that he left with brain damage.

What do you think he should have gotten?

Gannicus

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

8 years sounds considerable.

8 years

1 back dated and another 18 months suspended (from reading another article) so really only 5.5 years. Not accounting for remission on the sentence for good behaviour.

So, NO, not nearly considerable enough.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you think they should have gotten?

He should have his hands cut off after serving a 25 year sentence with no early release or suspension

El_Duderino 09

Gannicus wrote: »

8 years

1 back dated and another 18 months suspended (from reading another article) so really only 5.5 years. Not accounting for remission on the sentence for good behaviour.

So, NO, not nearly considerable enough.



He should have his hands cut off after serving a life sentence with no early release or suspension

Presumably the year backdated has already been served so 6.5 years.

Cutting off hands. Lol. I love how completely random some people think sentences should be.

Fr_Dougal

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you think he should have gotten?

I think the scumbag should have been taken up the Wicklow mountains and left in a shallow grave.

El_Duderino 09

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think the scumbag should have been taken up the Wicklow mountains and left in a shallow grave.

Lol.

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

8 years sounds considerable. What do you think they should have gotten?

He should have had 8 years before he even had the chance to ruin the young law students life.

El_Duderino 09

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He should have had 8 years before he even had the chance to ruin the young law students life.

I'd agree with that.

jam_mac_jam

Amazing, if he has done this with anything other then a car it would be attempted murder. Somehow there are different rules. No eight years for what he did and what he could have done at that crossing is not enough. Even if he had never done in a thing in his life never mind have 215 convictions. And I say this as a complete lefty pinko type oh sorry, its snowflake now isn't it.

daheff

Deleted User wrote: »

He should have had 8 years before he even had the chance to ruin the young law students life.

How do you know he hadnt already served a considerable sentence?

linked article wrote:

He was on a 25-year driving ban at the time and had been released from prison a month earlier.

Article doesnt say how long he served, but if he already had a 25 year driving ban i'd wager he got a reasonable stretch along with it too.

MarkR

Gannicus wrote: »

8 years

1 back dated and another 18 months suspended (from reading another article) so really only 5.5 years. Not accounting for remission on the sentence for good behaviour.

So, NO, not nearly considerable enough.



He should have his hands cut off after serving a 25 year sentence with no early release or suspension

Ruling out impossible sentences, what sentence should have been imposed?

Gannicus

MarkR wrote: »

Ruling out impossible sentences, what sentence should have been imposed?

Minimum 2 attempted murder sentences with no early release. Child should also be taken from his care by the courts as he grossly endangered his own child so tack on another few years for that too.

RasTa

MarkR wrote: »

Ruling out impossible sentences, what sentence should have been imposed?

Not suspending the last 18 months and including time served. It was his 4th hit and run and was only out of jail 1 month before this happened.

Cryptopagan

Gannicus wrote: »

Minimum 2 attempted murder sentences with no early release. Child should also be taken from his care by the courts as he grossly endangered his own child so tack on another few years for that too.

You can’t convict someone for murder or attempted murder unless you can prove their intent was to kill the victim.

Effects

amcalester wrote: »

I think the real shock here is that his kid goes to school.

Possible that the dropping kid to school line was just an excuse.

El_Duderino 09

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Amazing, if he has done this with anything other then a car it would be attempted murder. Somehow there are different rules. No eight years for what he did and what he could have done at that crossing is not enough. Even if he had never done in a thing in his life never mind have 215 convictions. And I say this as a complete lefty pinko type oh sorry, its snowflake now isn't it.

What should he have gotten?

branie2

Outrageous!

jam_mac_jam

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What should he have gotten?

15 to 20 years.


He also pleaded guilty to driving under the influence of drugs; possession of cannabis; failing to remain at the scene; failing to offer assistance; failing to alert gardaas well as driving without insurance or a driving licence on the same occasion.


At a previous hearing, the court heard how Connolly “undertook” a line of traffic stopped at a railway barrier, before suddenly swerving onto the pavement where he first hit Michael Igoe (54) and continued driving to hit student Francis Dhala (19), causing him “catastrophic” injuries.


Witnesses described him going back onto the road, doing a U-turn and driving “calmly” from the scene with a smashed windscreen. He was followed by a driving instructor who kept in touch with gardantil they were able to intercept him.

endacl

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you think he should have gotten?

A car to the body at the speed he was driving. Treatment delayed for the length of time it took the ambulance to arrive at the scene.

Then a life sentence. Florida justice life.

Allinall

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

15 to 20 years.


He also pleaded guilty to driving under the influence of drugs; possession of cannabis; failing to remain at the scene; failing to offer assistance; failing to alert gardaas well as driving without insurance or a driving licence on the same occasion.


At a previous hearing, the court heard how Connolly “undertook” a line of traffic stopped at a railway barrier, before suddenly swerving onto the pavement where he first hit Michael Igoe (54) and continued driving to hit student Francis Dhala (19), causing him “catastrophic” injuries.


Witnesses described him going back onto the road, doing a U-turn and driving “calmly” from the scene with a smashed windscreen. He was followed by a driving instructor who kept in touch with gardantil they were able to intercept him.

What charge would allow the judge impose a 15 year + sentence?

scamalert

Cryptopagan wrote: »

You can’t convict someone for murder or attempted murder unless you can prove their intent was to kill the victim.

its always good to know that you need physic to prove anything in this country, oh well he has time maybe he will hit 250 or get early release to continue on his rep sheet :cool:


One question that bothers me thou would sentences be same all across board say if you have issue with Judges or their families, sure running few of them over and getting slap of suspended sentence, shouldn't be viewed any different, but smth tells me, if it was case with anyone with a bit of power any first such conviction would be slammed into oblivion to get person to serve life ? no ?

El_Duderino 09

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

15 to 20 years.


He also pleaded guilty to driving under the influence of drugs; possession of cannabis; failing to remain at the scene; failing to offer assistance; failing to alert gardaas well as driving without insurance or a driving licence on the same occasion.


At a previous hearing, the court heard how Connolly “undertook” a line of traffic stopped at a railway barrier, before suddenly swerving onto the pavement where he first hit Michael Igoe (54) and continued driving to hit student Francis Dhala (19), causing him “catastrophic” injuries.


Witnesses described him going back onto the road, doing a U-turn and driving “calmly” from the scene with a smashed windscreen. He was followed by a driving instructor who kept in touch with gardantil they were able to intercept him.

He sounds like a shytebag. No argument from me there. But I'm fascinated by how you figure out what the sentence should be. How did you decide on 15-20 years?

jam_mac_jam

Allinall wrote: »

What charge would allow the judge impose a 15 year + sentence?

Well the maximum sentence for one of the crimes he pleaded guilty to was 10 years so I am sure you could tack on a few more for all the other ones, I'm not looking them all up and adding them up for you.

El_Duderino 09

endacl wrote: »

A car to the body at the speed he was driving. Treatment delayed for the length of time it took the ambulance to arrive at the scene.

Then a life sentence. Florida justice life.

Lol.

Samuel T. Cogley

15 years would be more like it tbh. He caused life changing injuries to someone. Assault causing serious harm carries a maximum life sentance.

JP Liz V1

Sky King wrote: »

"Something something travellers"?

Is he one or just assuming?

El_Bee

the guy had a difficult life cut him some slack I mean it's only 200+ convictions maybe if it was 500 but we all make mistakes lots of judgments here not a lot of solutions.

Samuel T. Cogley

If you drive on a ban frankly you should be locked up until the ban expires.

topper75

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think the scumbag should have been taken up the Wicklow mountains and left in a shallow grave.

I wouldn't cry.

Well, maybe a little...just to do a little virtue signalling. Seems to be all the rage these days amongst the chattering classes.

cherryghost

We should have AI judges

Samuel T. Cogley

cherryghost wrote: »

We should have AI judges

Why, so they can apply a formula and suspend and backdate the sentance?

Guy:Incognito

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you think he should have gotten?

Add up the minimum custodial sentence for all of his convictions that he hasn't been given one for.

That long.

Hes clearly not going to stop his law breaking so at least that way he cant inflict his **** on members of the public.

suicide_circus

mloc123 wrote: »

"He said his client had a difficult family background and started drinking as a 14-year-old"

you could probably say that about 70% of the population