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Has anyone ever been prosecuted for personal injury's Fraud?

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Even if that is the case, it probably shouldn't be.

    Unless the client gives a very clear indication they're going to chance a fraudulent claim, the disincentive to such claims should be prosecution for making those claims.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Graham wrote:
    Unless the client gives a very clear indication they're going to chance a fraudulent claim, the disincentive to such claims should be prosecution for making those claims.

    It doesnt happen on the real world, unfortunately.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    according to the other posters, neither does the solicitor pre-filtering.

    I don't think anyone (so far) has disagreed that there's a problem with fraudulent claims. How to prevent them is the issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    As a solr it's very difficult to ascertain that a case could be fraudulent or exaggerated injury when a client first presents in your office

    You take a client at face value and ultimately its up to the court to decide matters if there is a dispute on liability and or causation


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,508 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    McCrack wrote: »
    As a solr it's very difficult to ascertain that a case could be fraudulent or exaggerated injury when a client first presents in your office

    You take a client at face value and ultimately its up to the court to decide matters if there is a dispute on liability and or causation

    What about when members of the same “ethnic” community keep turning up?
    Do you consider them to be just very unlucky?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    What about when members of the same “ethnic” community keep turning up?
    Do you consider them to be just very unlucky?

    Perhaps or perhaps not

    You take instructions, ascertain liability, seek a medical and submit the claim. If it can be shown or is discovered that the plaintiff is fraudulent or exaggerated injuries then the case will be withdrawn or struck out. Its not the solrs role to determine theses matters. It's the courts.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    What about when members of the same “ethnic” community keep turning up?
    Do you consider them to be just very unlucky?

    Is that really where you think the country should be heading? Access to the Courts based on ethnicity?

    Would we not be better looking at prosecutions/penalties/costs being recovered for fraudulent claims?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    €200k? Something not right there. Did he manage to fake a broken back?

    While whiplash claims might attract too much compensation in the eyes of the standard populist, they are not in the order of €200,000.

    They are in the €12,000-20,000 range for the most part. Anything above that is very very exceptional and probably involves something more than typical whiplash injury.

    He said it happened in Canada. I’d imagine it’s similar to America. America is the home of injury claims, so I’d say that’s why the compensation was huge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Graham wrote:
    according to the other posters, neither does the solicitor pre-filtering.

    Im talking very very small % of claims.

    Im not for a moment suggesting its a Solicitors job to filter or decide who gets to claim, im just saying that several Solicitors have known from the get go that their client isnt honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    What about when members of the same “ethnic†community keep turning up? Do you consider them to be just very unlucky?

    Travelers get negative press as its easier to blame someone else instead of looking at your own 'community'.

    A certain surname might jump out at you but there are far more 'dodgy' claims from settled individuals than others.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,508 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Graham wrote: »
    Is that really where you think the country should be heading? Access to the Courts based on ethnicity?

    Would we not be better looking at prosecutions/penalties/costs being recovered for fraudulent claims?

    No but the Travellers, as highlighted on threads here and elsewhere, have serious reputations for faking accidents and even coming into this country from England to do so.
    I’d even say that the percentage of fake claims by them dwarf those from any similar percentage number of the settled community anywhere in the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Fraudulent and exaggerated claims are made by every class, creed, colour and nationality. I'm no fan of our mobile brethren, but the Mrs Bucket group are as bad from my experience


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