Star Wars, should the prequels be remade.

blue.dub4sam

There's a lot of specuallation as to what direction the star wars universe should take. Surely one of the more obvious things the could consider is a remake of the prequels? Anyone think this would be a good idea?

johnny_ultimate

No. It’s done. Let it be.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

blue.dub4sam wrote: »

There's a lot of specuallation as to what direction the star wars universe should take. Surely one of the more obvious things the could consider is a remake of the prequels? Anyone think this would be a good idea?

Every decision since ROTJ has just made star wars worse. Whatever the dumb option is, that’s exactly what they’ll do. They might make it with lesbians and pan sexual robots this time and call it progressive. Stupid men.

brevity

Hunky Monster wrote: »

They might make it with lesbians and pan sexual robots this time and call it progressive.

I’d watch it.

nix

It will be done, but i doubt anytime soon, likely when all us moany gits are on our death beds

ziedth

I would be 100% behind it to be honest. I always thought they could have been saved with some fairly minor tweaks;

Don't have Anakin a cute kid followed by a love sick teen for 66% of them for one thing. For all their faults in the Prequel to Xmen Michael Fassbender did a brilliant job in making Magneto not really Villain but still hints of it there. Just have Anakin in the first film as a 19/20 year old who isn't bad or good just a mix of both. The sequels were hardly run away success stories so I wouldn't have much faith in them.

pixelburp

No, I don't think they'll remake any of the Star Wars film, at least not explicitly. It's a literal universe of science-fantasy, they could make new stories from now til our own universe winks out of existence. Conventionally, remakes are usually geared towards re-imagining a more self-contained story or set of stories; even when sci-fi has remade itself (such as Battlestar Galactica), the reboot was set in a totally different universe (I think), whereas the '09 Trek reboot shot for a character reboot, by way of time travel.

Agent Coulson

Just give me back Han firing first from the originals and I'll be happy.

Sonny noggs

Probably not, between the lads from game of thrones and Kathleen Kennedy, what could possibly go wrong?

T-Maxx

Hell NO!!

Stop moaning ffs

Be interesting to know if people are
Against it cos they never want to see these films in any form again
Against it because they’re happy with them such as they are
Living in the real world and know it will never happen in this lifetime

fryup

no, they should be forgotten about

McLoughlin

I'd be only interested in seeing the George Lucas planned 3D re-releases that didn't get released

Acosta

When Disney first acquired Star Wars and announced there would be loads of new movies coming our way, my first thought was re-make the prequels first. And while I thought the reaction and campaign to GOT season 8 was largely pathetic, I would be on board if they decided to remake the prequels because THEY WERE THAT BAD!! George basically got everything wrong. The story, the writing, some of the casting, how it was shot and so on. Nobody was next to powerful enough to tell him to cop on, hire a good writer, a good director and re-think the entire story. It's like he wrote one draft for each movie and said to himself well that's done, good job George. It was a shame.

Sad Professor

No because I don't think Anakin's story needed to be told in the first place, so nothing would be gained in remaking them. As I've said before, Rogue One is what episode 3 should have been. A whole trilogy like that about the early days of the Rebellion with no Jedi or Skywalkers would have been great.

salmocab

Sad Professor wrote: »

No because I don't think Anakin's story needed to be told in the first place, so nothing would be gained in remaking them. As I've said before, Rogue One is what episode 3 should have been. A whole trilogy like that about the early days of the Rebellion with no Jedi or Skywalkers would have been great.

I thought rogue one was a great idea, a story that had been mentioned but we knew next to nothing about. It didn’t quite come off but there could have been great legs in the early rebellion stuff. I know it’s the core of the star wars movies but I’m a bit sick of the skywalker family, in an infinite universe we keep coming across the same characters and their relatives.

Cryptopagan

Sad Professor wrote: »

No because I don't think Anakin's story needed to be told in the first place, so nothing would be gained in remaking them. As I've said before, Rogue One is what episode 3 should have been. A whole trilogy like that about the early days of the Rebellion with no Jedi or Skywalkers would have been great.

But the whole question of how Anakin turned from the light to the darkness is the impetus behind the prequels; it’s the one big issue arising in the OT that is never really dealt with. I don’t think it needed to be told (we already saw Luke being tempted by the Emperor, which hinted at what happened), but just as a sequel has to tell us what happens to Luke Skywalker, a true prequel—rather than a simple spinoff—has to tell us how Anakin became Vader.

buser2x

i'd to see

branie2

I don't think so

Wedwood

George Lucas stated this week that his Star Wars movies (both original and prequel trilogies) were made for 12 year olds, they just happened to turn out more popular than he had planned.

So, the Prequels are fine, it's just you're not a 12 year old anymore and if you want to watch Star Wars again, it should be with your own kids as the director originally intended.

pixelburp

Wedwood wrote: »

George Lucas stated this week that his Star Wars movies (both original and prequel trilogies) were made for 12 year olds, they just happened to turn out more popular than he had planned.

So, the Prequels are fine, it's just you're not a 12 year old anymore and if you want to watch Star Wars again, it should be with your own kids as the director originally intended.

I see where he's coming from, but TBH if that were 100% true, Phantom Menace wouldn't have been clogged up by all the tedious political filler that kept grinding the pace to a halt. Or for that matter, Jar-Jar Binks; I'm confident most 12 years would have been too old for that nonsense 'cos that character surely skewed towards younger audiences than pre-teen.

Vinculus

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just give me back Han firing first from the originals and I'll be happy.

You should watch Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition




https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V27-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713

JayRoc

No because as far as I'm concerned the prequels never fecking happened

CiDeRmAn

Jar Jar Binks origin story, leading up to the moment he ran into a pair of Jedi on Naboo.
We need to see what jolly close scrapes he and his chums got into to put him in such low regard.
Make it a musical comedy, with maybe cameos by Lady Gaga and the force ghost of Johnny Cash.

thegreengoblin

Meesa no hope so!

Stop moaning ffs

I’d say you’ll see a remake of the original trilogy at some point. They already have animated versions of it broken into shorts on the YouTube to get the kids in.
They are pretty cool too.

EltonJohn69

The fans deserve the Jar Jar Binks trilogy !!! Especially now that it is basically confirmed that he was a Sith Lord.

Dades

I don't think you can easily reboot movies that are part of an ongoing series. The prequels are canon to Ep IX which is only out this year.

Never say never, but I'm saying nope.

Varik

If it was done and dusted, sure remake them but it's not so make something new.

Stop moaning ffs

Would we rather see the prequels remade or the originals remade?
I think it’s a matter of time before the originals are.

alchemist33

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Would we rather see the prequels remade or the originals remade?
I think it’s a matter of time before the originals are.

Eps 7 and 8 are pretty much remakes of the originals already

Dades

There's an element of truth in that.

The current trilogy borrowed so much from the OT already for the next generation. This could be the reboot.

salmocab

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Jar Jar Binks origin story, leading up to the moment he ran into a pair of Jedi on Naboo.
We need to see what jolly close scrapes he and his chums got into to put him in such low regard.
Make it a musical comedy, with maybe cameos by Lady Gaga and the force ghost of Johnny Cash.

I know your joking but you need to be careful Disney are spying on us and they don’t understand humor. We could end up with your musical comedy.

Sad Professor

7 and 8 are not in anyway remakes of the OT. By that definition nearly all sequels could be considered remakes. This is like calling Star Trek into Darkness a remake of Wraith of Khan, a film with a very different plot and story, all because of a few scenes that riff on or subvert it. I can't think of many sequels that don't rehash many scenarios from previous films. Even the most acclaimed sequel ever made The Godfather Part II, which claims to be the second part of the story but was actually made up by Coppola and Puzo because they needed the money, does it.

Given how heavily influenced Lucas was by serials, which endlessly rehashed themselves, it at least makes sense to have a lot of repeated motifs and plot points in SW. The multiple Death Stars are too much mind you, mainly because of the laziness of their execution, but most of the other instances of similar plot points or scenarios in SW are often quite satisfying to watch play out again but differently. Like the throne room scene in TLJ. TFA's total lack of imagination with the design and politics of the galaxy is a different matter. I think if JJ had been a bit bolder in this regard it would have mitigated most of the complaints about the films being remakes.

Dades

SP, with that postI can't help but think you don't know what side of the fence you're on!

Maybe there needs to be a new term for a movie between a sequel and remake/reboot. TFA was a bit of both. They even referenced it in the movie...

"It's another Death Star!"

That line had to be a nod to the OT generation. A way of acknowledging they were raiding the cookie jar. I've come to terms with that. For a successful movie to survive 30 years without getting rebooted is unusual.

Sad Professor

I just think all sequels/prequels rehash plot points and scenarios from previous films, so the definition of a "remake" can't be so broad. A sequel as far as I'm concerned literally means "more of the same". A reboot is quite distinct from a remake as it implies a different approach. I wouldn't consider the sequel trilogy to be either. They seem like pretty straight forward sequels from a story, character and plot standpoint albeit very unimaginative design-wise compared to the prequels as I said.

TheIrishGrover

The problem with the Internet is that everyone has a voice but it seems that the moaners voice their opinions loudest. Then they go online, start a petition saying "Remake this", get a few signatures and state that the world wants these to be remade (And yes, I do consider a couple of million signatures as a "few" signatures given how many people could have signed this).

People b!tched about the darker tones of Empire when it came out: Complained that Luke was whiny (He was), the it ended in a cliffhanger when we would have to wait years for the next film (Not about 18 months). Of course now the general opinion is that Empire is the best of the series.

People still b!tch about Jedi: The Ewoks were simply there to sell toys (They were). The overall tone was too light and family friendly (Ironic given the flack Empire got initially) etc.

Personally I'm not a fan of the prequels. The dialog it trite, the style and effects have aged terribly (As we knew they would at the time). There were gems of course (Darth Maul fight. The Light Sabre fights in general). Some of this can be put down to the fact that I'm not 8-14 watching the movies and some can be put down to the fact that Lucas is a terrible dialogue writer.

But here's the thing. Movies cannot be made based on the general consensus of fanboys overly-active on the Internet.

Episode 7 came out. Was initially received favourably and then they started saying it was basically A New Hope (There is some justification to that). "Oh why didn't they do something different? It's basically A New Hope!!!! Ahhhh"
Episode 8 came out and all of a sudden they are complaining about it being too[/] different: Oh, that's not how Luke would be. He's so angry. How DARE they bring in ANOTHER strong female character???!!! Why isn't Rei a Skywalker????!!!!! Oh, kill that Asian chick. I hate her!!!!

Fantasy/Sci-Fi fanboys are very precious about what they consider "Theirs". The problem is that now their restrictive and often times, quite poisonous possessiveness can so easily be spread so far and wide on The Internet.


So, tldr:

No, they shouldn't. Don't like them (I don't)? Deal with it. Plenty of people do like them but don't feel the need to open/add to a petition to keep them as is.

Wedwood

On a lighter note, most movie remakes (with a few notable exceptions) turn out to be inferior to their predecessors. So it's far from a given that remaking these (or Last Jedi for that matter) would improve things.

That said, JJ Abrams 'course correction' for Episode 9, along with the rumoured Prequel cameos, is probably the closest thing you'll get to a remake of Last Jedi, with some sort of tacit recognition for the Prequels. It's probably how they got Lucas back as a consultant on the first place.

TerrorFirmer

Did the prequels suck... Yes.

Did they have some great ideas? Absolutely.

Should they be remade. Nah. Move on. Do bigger and better things with the legacy.

Stop moaning ffs

Wedwood wrote: »

On a lighter note, most movie remakes (with a few notable exceptions) turn out to be inferior to their predecessors. So it's far from a given that remaking these (or Last Jedi for that matter) would improve things.

That said, JJ Abrams 'course correction' for Episode 9, along with the rumoured Prequel cameos, is probably the closest thing you'll get to a remake of Last Jedi, with some sort of tacit recognition for the Prequels. It's probably how they got Lucas back as a consultant on the first place.

To be clear ‘Course correction’ Was a term used in a click bait article. Nobody involved ever said that term or was it mentioned anywhere. abrams Kennedy etc especially

He did say this last one is ‘renegade’ and possibly addressing? that his other Star Wars film was too similar to previous said ‘fvck being beholden to the past. I’m going to film it as I like and write what feels right’.

Also wouldn’t be sure Lucas is back consulting on this or anything. Again, that was clickbait. Abrams met with him once. Other outlets say he never did. Palpatine was always coming back in this trilogy according to Kennedy and early force awakens concepts. Abrahams reportedly asked Lucas is it was ok and that’s all. Does any body really want Lucas back involved though. Safe, hard no.



Edit-correction. Bob Iger reportedly said course correction about the release schedules for new films of Star Wars being adjusted after the Solo one .
He was not referencing the episode 9 film or production however.

Inviere

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Did the prequels suck... Yes.

Did they have some great ideas? Absolutely.

Should they be remade. Nah. Move on. Do bigger and better things with the legacy.

/thread

CinemaGuy45

Sad Professor wrote: »

No because I don't think Anakin's story needed to be told in the first place, so nothing would be gained in remaking them. As I've said before, Rogue One is what episode 3 should have been. A whole trilogy like that about the early days of the Rebellion with no Jedi or Skywalkers would have been great.

I hate the Disney Star Wars films with the exception of Rogue One as for the Prequels Revenge of the Sith was a good film.

Hangdogroad

fryup wrote: »

no, they should be forgotten about

The prequels should be blasted off into space and vapourised.

d8491prj5boyvg

Double post

d8491prj5boyvg

I think it would be too confusing with an expanding saga. Either end the saga and start from scratch again or keep on expanding. It would be a shame to do the former with all the fertile ground.

Stop moaning ffs

We have 3 Star Wars tv series on the way. Mandalorian Cassian Andor and an unnamed one-rumoured to be announced at D23 the Disney conference this month. So they’re exploring an era post prequels in Cassian, post originals in Mandalorian and who knows what period in the third series.
With that in mind it’s likely tv is the focus for the next few years until the Benioff and Weiss trilogy and Johnson trilogy form up.
Personally don’t believe the rumour about the knights of the old republic trilogy/series whatever it is.
But it might be that is what is being announced at D23.

So remakes aren’t on the cards. Maybe when we’re all very very old.

Conall Cernach

I don't think they should be remade but I wouldn't mind an official novelisation that fixes a lot of what's wrong with them. Have Anakin a teen/young adult like Luke and skip all that guff about the chosen one etc. Just have him be a normal dude who falls to the dark side through greed or lust for power or something. Have him succumb where Luke succeeded. I'd also think it would be cool if Owen Lars and Beru had some part in the Clone Wars too and they had agreed to look after Luke because they were agents or something. Like, Owen, Beru, Anakin, Padme and Obi-wan were all friends or comrades.

Stop moaning ffs

Conall Cernach wrote: »

I don't think they should be remade but I wouldn't mind an official novelisation that fixes a lot of what's wrong with them. Have Anakin a teen/young adult like Luke and skip all that guff about the chosen one etc. Just have him be a normal dude who falls to the dark side through greed or lust for power or something. Have him succumb where Luke succeeded. I'd also think it would be cool if Owen Lars and Beru had some part in the Clone Wars too and they had agreed to look after Luke because they were agents or something. Like, Owen, Beru, Anakin, Padme and Obi-wan were all friends or comrades.

Funny you’ve mention that. The novelisations of the films are far more descriptive and elaborate on the events in the films. The revenge of the sith novel particularly. It is packed with what you are looking for.
Then You get to clone wars and it explanis the machinations of Palpatine and the politics. It is all out there and really special extra input. I hated the prequels until I saw Clone Wars. It was made and paid for by Lucas and it elevates the prequels so very much.

The Golden Miller

Sad Professor wrote: »

No because I don't think Anakin's story needed to be told in the first place

But Star Wars is the story, rise and fall, of Anakin Skywalker

jpm4

The Golden Miller wrote: »

But Star Wars is the story, rise and fall, of Anakin Skywalker

Not every story needs to be told.....I was pretty content not knowing the origins of say Hannibal Lector or the xenomorph from Alien.

Stop moaning ffs

jpm4 wrote: »

Not every story needs to be told.....I was pretty content not knowing the origins of say Hannibal Lector or the xenomorph from Alien.

100% right.

Then look over the game of thrones threads and see people complaining cos every single thing wasn’t spoonfed and explained in detail and you realise there is no pleasing people. True of the last jedi also and anything these days.
The perpetually outraged always demand to be heard regardless of the topic.
They don’t even bother to research or even think in a lot of cases.