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Does nearly everyone hate their job?

  • 23-05-2019 9:54am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭


    A few mates in my school around my age (21) have finished college or are doing work placements in Ireland, UK, US etc..

    Contrary to what I heard praents and teachers say, they all seem to love their job, then again most of these guys are genuises (got 520+ points) and are doing something in STEM fields.

    But for normal, average people is work "tolerable"? My parents seem to hate their jobs and want to go back to their country as soon as possible and they still have pretty good jobs.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    You are only just out of college!!! And it depends on "hate"!Do I love getting up every morning and grinding through work politics all day when I could be home with my kids doing what I like?Not particularly.(I have a STEM job, btw).But I don't outright hate it-mind you I like my current job.I have been in roles previously that I despised for one reason or another.It depends on a lot of factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I like what I do, wouldn't say I love it. I am happy to be out the door to see my kids in the evening.

    You are still young and have lots of time to discover what you like doing. If you are going to spend up to 8 hours a day for 4 or 5 days every week working on something, then it doesn't make sense working on something you don't like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I enjoy my work, but I would still prefer to be doing other things with my time. A full-time job takes over your week, sucking energy from every other part of your life so for most people its one the one thing in our lives that we moan about the most. I think that's normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,498 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    shesty wrote: »
    You are only just out of college!!!

    Not even, he's only doing his Leaving Cert.

    Most people will have worked in jobs they hated at some stage. The sensible ones get out of those jobs. Relatively few people absolutely love their jobs. The vast majority, in my experience, are generally neutral - they'd prefer not to have to work but realise that it's part of life and enables them to do things they would otherwise not be able to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Some people get energy from working depending on what suits them of course. I know afew people who need to be constantly working for whatever reasons. In years to come if we follow the big European influences , there should be less hours per week/ job shares and the like. If we go down the US route till be the opposite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭SFC1895


    I hate my job more than life itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    jester77 wrote: »

    You are still young and have lots of time to discover what you like doing. If you are going to spend up to 8 hours a day for 4 or 5 days every week working on something, then it doesn't make sense working on something you don't like.

    yep it will effect your mental health..doing something for 40 hrs per week that you dislike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    A few mates in my school around my age (21) have finished college or are doing work placements in Ireland, UK, US etc..

    Contrary to what I heard praents and teachers say, they all seem to love their job, then again most of these guys are genuises (got 520+ points) and are doing something in STEM fields.

    But for normal, average people is work "tolerable"? My parents seem to hate their jobs and want to go back to their country as soon as possible and they still have pretty good jobs.

    Working for most people is a double edged sword. The work becomes routine and can be done with ease over time. That's experience leads to seniority and better wages but also boredom. So people begin to hate work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭rm75


    Found work ok initially , but gradually over time lost interest. Plus i came to the gradual realisation that my managers were useless and i could do better.

    Thankfully (i can say in hindsight) company closed and i got made redundant and decided to set up my own business. Can be tough sometimes but mostly i absolutely love it. Choose who i work with and when.

    Only concern would be if everything went belly up , I dont think i could ever work for somebody else again.

    Life's short, go for it. If you're young you've no obligations so should move around until you find something you enjoy. Once you get older it will be harder to change as you'll have family commitments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Sometimes love it, sometimes hate it, never ever take it seriously.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    Working for most people is a double edged sword. The work becomes routine and can be done with ease over time. That's experience leads to seniority and better wages but also boredom. So people begin to hate work.

    and the Peter Principle kicks in which makes people hate the job as they are not good at it but excelled previously.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,718 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    A few mates in my school around my age (21) have finished college or are doing work placements in Ireland, UK, US etc..

    Contrary to what I heard praents and teachers say, they all seem to love their job, then again most of these guys are genuises (got 520+ points) and are doing something in STEM fields.

    But for normal, average people is work "tolerable"? My parents seem to hate their jobs and want to go back to their country as soon as possible and they still have pretty good jobs.

    No in general, people do not hate what they do for a living. They may hate certain aspects of the job or even the entire job from time to time, but it is not common to meet someone that hates their job and has done nothing change their situation over time.

    It is probably different for you parents though, if they came here only for economic reasons. It there is a lot more going on than simply the job, they see it as something they have to do in order to go home at some stage, so they are not really settled in their new country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭messy tessy


    most of these guys are genuises (got 520+ points) and are doing something in STEM fields.

    But for normal, average people is work "tolerable"?

    Damnit. At 510 points I am only average. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭NSAman


    I love what I do. I created my own job. There are times that can be pressured and of course tensions run high, but this is tempered by the fact it is a temporary aberration.

    My work colleagues and staff are like family. I look after them all. We go to each other’s weddings, children’s weddings have bbqs and go for meals together. We all get along fantastically, except one... yes there is always one.

    If you like what you do, work never feels like work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭mikeweed


    See if this makes sense to you. Im a graphic designer and I love what I do but I hate my job! My current position is a soul sucking ****fest where everything is just churned out with no effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭NSAman


    mikeweed wrote: »
    See if this makes sense to you. Im a graphic designer and I love what I do but I hate my job! My current position is a soul sucking ****fest where everything is just churned out with no effort.

    Find companies that need actual design and something original. Our company has used young designers for graphic design in publishing and also webdesign, bringing things to a different market that were once staid and boring in a new graphic fashion.....

    Our main graphic designer was like you, bored to death with a myriad of tried and tested ways of designing... we said "let rip" and he did... he now has his own company and employs 7 people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    I don’t hate my job. I work for the HSE in a specialised role. I hate certain aspects of it and don’t love all my fellow workmates but on the whole I get satisfaction from my work and like the cameraderie of the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elfy4eva


    Its often a matter of perspective, I worked in retail and hated it to the point of depression, I work in manufacturing now and I like it, but I often hear folks moaning in work how its an awful job.

    Try not to focus on what other people think and make up your own mind.

    One piece of advice I would give is do not constantly compare yourself and your work/pay to your peers its a very bad mind frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭skallywag


    In my own experience plenty of people really like what they are doing, and would rather do what they are doing over doing nothing at all and still being paid.

    If you end up in a career which has one day pretty much the same as the next, then of course you are going to end up just putting in the hours and waiting for the bell to ring at the end of the day. There are plenty of careers though where each day is very different from the one that went before, and the problems that you have to solve are unpredictable.

    I often find myself asking 'what the hell is this, I have never seen something like this before, etc.', or 'OK, I did not expect that, what on earth am I going to do now' etc. If you are the type of person who likes solving problems and making new new things, then there are plenty of careers out there in which you can get heaps of work satisfaction, particularly in Engineering, Science, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    I like my job. I just hate my boss, oh and Janet but everyone hates Janet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Neames


    I think when you've had horrendous jobs then when you find a decent one you really appreciate it.

    I think many people look for too much from their job and that's unreasonable.

    In my case I've had some really sh1t jobs so I look at my current job as interesting, very well paid, low stress working with decent nice people. Others working with me say how can you stick that job! It's all about context I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Be lost without it. Was offered redundancy or position shift a couple of years ago, im still here, must be something good about it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    I like my job. I just hate my boss, oh and Janet but everyone hates Janet

    Theres a f(uking janet everywhere, bit(h..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭skallywag


    True, it is not just the content, the people which you are working with day in day out make a huge difference, as does having a boss who is reasonable and understands the challenges you face.

    I think that quite a few people end up going into careers which looked good on paper for them, without really knowing what the day in day out mechanics of it will really be, and subsequently end up bored or disillusioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭noubliezjamais


    I don’t hate my job. I work for the HSE in a specialised role. I hate certain aspects of it and don’t love all my fellow workmates but on the whole I get satisfaction from my work and like the cameraderie of the team.

    Why do you not like your fellow workmates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Why do you not like your fellow workmates?

    Janet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    NSAman wrote: »
    I love what I do. I created my own job. There are times that can be pressured and of course tensions run high, but this is tempered by the fact it is a temporary aberration.

    My work colleagues and staff are like family. I look after them all. We go to each other’s weddings, children’s weddings have bbqs and go for meals together. We all get along fantastically, except one... yes there is always one.

    If you like what you do, work never feels like work.

    You're in the mafia arent ya?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    I think minimum wage jobs wouldn’t be loved by anybody. Some factory jobs could be mind numbing. With a qualification under your belt work can be more meaningful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    Why do you not like your fellow workmates?

    I said I don’t love them all. Some I get on with, some I try to avoid at break time. But that’s in every walk of life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    In my experience it goes like this:

    Work for a multinational or large company? Hate your job or find it boring.

    Work for a startup or a small company (< 15 people)? Enjoy your job or at least don't find it boring.

    There are pros and cons to both.

    I felt "safe" in a multinational, but I was so unbelievably bored.

    In startups I learn a lot, enjoy things, but it's hard to plan a few years ahead as there's always a chance your job will be gone in 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Gerry G wrote: »
    You're in the mafia arent ya?

    Dammit i’m Rumbled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Good jib!


    I'd say most people tolerate their job.

    It's kind of depressing when you think about it, all those years studying, just to end up in a job that you don't really care about, the stress of a commute, living for the weekend and then comes Sunday evening and you're hating the thoughts of going back to work the next day.

    Not everyone can work at something they're passionate about. Very few people in fact.

    Then having kids knowing they'll have to go through the same sh1te as you do.:(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    fryup wrote: »
    yep it will effect your mental health..doing something for 40 hrs per week that you dislike

    I wish I only had to do it for 40 hours a week. It's definitely had an effect on my mental health which is why I'm starting the process of a career change at the end of this month.
    Anyone in the same position should definitely consider their options. It's really not worth it being stuck in a job you hate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    Having a boss is tough going. Especially when they do next to nothing and walk around all smug with themselves.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    no harm, when counting up the hours one must work under ireland 2019 conditions of employment to exist in ireland 2019 conditions, to actually consider that its probably an unimaginable paradise of a life compared to the majority of the planet's current populace and certainly so compared to pretty much any generation further back than say the crazy heights of the celtic tiger


    compare whatever youre moaning about to an actual alternative and youll soon brighten up ime


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,577 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    aido79 wrote: »
    I wish I only had to do it for 40 hours a week. It's definitely had an effect on my mental health which is why I'm starting the process of a career change at the end of this month.
    Anyone in the same position should definitely consider their options. It's really not worth it being stuck in a job you hate.

    Truth, first sign of anything that makes you, unhappy, uncomfortable, miserable...jump ship.

    It’s maybe you are going to spend a month or two having a mini ‘career break’ but that’s an opportunity to recharge your batteries as well as set up your new career...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    A few mates in my school around my age (21) have finished college or are doing work placements in Ireland, UK, US etc..

    Contrary to what I heard praents and teachers say, they all seem to love their job, then again most of these guys are genuises (got 520+ points) and are doing something in STEM fields.

    They are in the honeymoon period, and haven't spotted the totally unnecessary, and pointless but ever prevalent flaws yet.
    Ask them what they think of it, and other people, after being largely used and screwed over day in day out for 40+ years.

    At least years ago if you put up with it, you were more or less guaranteed to own your own house after a few years, drive a reasonable car, raise a family on one income, and retire with a livable pension. All that's gone now too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭mojesius


    I like my job. I'm in a team of five, we have a great manager and director. I think this is really important. I've worked in numerous jobs (including at my current company - IT sector) where I dreaded going in, hated the work, had difficult/incompetent bosses, hated dealing with certain customers. Now it's mainly projects I work on and Im very happy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Xodar


    I love what I do, I like my job (the work I do) , I like some of the people I work with, I dislike most of the attitudes and mindsets of the majority of the people I work with.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    you meet and hear from a lot of people and every manager they ever had was an idiot

    and you wonder do they ever hear themselves


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Having a boss is tough going.

    Having a boss should not be tough going.

    There are some people who cannot handle having a boss. These people tend to go work as taxi drivers, or form their own companies.

    Maybe you're one of these people.

    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Especially when they do next to nothing and walk around all smug with themselves.

    If your boss genuinely is doing next to nothing (I would question this though; most non-managers have no idea what managers do), and genuinely is walking around like a smug ****, then that's obviously a massive problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Some people I know love there jobs & waste valuable family time doing BS at work. Staying extra hours, logging into their emails at home etc.

    I don't understand them.

    At the end of the day we are all only a number in a company & are disposable. My job allows me to have a decent work life balance so I am happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Strumms wrote: »
    Truth, first sign of anything that makes you, unhappy, uncomfortable, miserable...jump ship.

    It’s maybe you are going to spend a month or two having a mini ‘career break’ but that’s an opportunity to recharge your batteries as well as set up your new career...

    I probably should have left at the first signs of hating it but the money was good. It hasn't been all bad. I have managed to get myself into a position where I can return to fulltime education to pursue something I am more passionate and where my skills and knowledge will be put to better use.
    I have taken a month or 2 off before and then returned to work and while the break has been great each time I've done it, it doesn't take long for me to start hating the job again( different companies each time so the company isn't the problem).
    For the first time in a long time I am looking forward to the future rather than dreading being stuck on the same career path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Theres a lot of crap that comes with the majority of jobs, be it incompetent managers who don't have a clue not only what you do but how to manage your work. Then you have the bullies, the loud annoying co workers who insist on sharing every detail of their personal life/partner/child etc. The co workers who get away with absolute murder while you get hauled over coals for doing the same thing. The mind games, the politics, the ladder climbers etc its enough to want you to pray really hard for a lotto win every single day. For me, I just work to pay the bills and I genuinely wish my days away. Everytime im in work I look forward to the next day off/break/half day and holiday its the only way I can get through it.

    I have yet to meet anyone who actually genuinely loves their job. Younger people in their 20s can be filled with enthusiasm for the first few months of their job but that often fades when the reality of working life sets in. Its a heap of crap, working, when you look right down to it. Its the ladder climbers who put in 15 hours a day hoping to impress some boss that may in a years time give them their own office to work 18 hours day that baffle me the most. Imagine spending that much time in your workplace, time you can never ever get back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭bladespin


    It's the usual 'kiss the frogs story', there are brilliant jobs out there, you just have to plug away until you find one.

    Personally, I love my job, our company is all 'we' not us and them, it's a small(ish) specialist company and we all have our own areas, I feel like I'm part of something we have grown together. There is, and has to be, a balance between work and home but it works nicely here.

    Personally I believe doing something you like keeps you young and energized so I'd keep looking OP instead so settling for a job I didn't enjoy nevermind hated.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    It doesnt matter what you do. You will eventually get pissed off with it.

    Anytime something is mandatory in your life you will learn to hate it.

    Someone might love drawing, creating art etc. But if they make it career and have a client breathing down their neck waiting for something to be done to a deadline. Ya, it eventually sucks.

    Thats just life.

    Anyone who says the love their job either hasnt worked there for long enough or doesnt need the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I am so delusionally optimistic that I actually like my (technical) job. The only annoying thing is that it takes time which I could use for my hobbies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭studdlymurphy


    I dont know what STEM is.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I mostly like my job and my colleagues. Even my boss. There are days when I'd rather be doing other things or when going home time can't come quickly enough. That's perfectly normal. The jobs I wouldn't like to go back to are the ones I had as a teenager or when I was starting out after college. I'm glad I've graduated on from those but they serve as a reminder of how things have improved. I genuinely feel for the people who are trapped in dead end jobs or never had the chance to better themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Love my job have to say makes life very easy because iv hated jobs in the past nearly been sick going to work (a call center most hateful place on earth)

    but my current job I love it never mind going to work and I make decent enough money doing it well enough to give my kids everything they need so can’t get much better I suppose


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