Divorce Referendum!

freshpopcorn

I think the result of this will be a yes vote by over 80%+

What do you think the result will be?

Also has there being any debate on this matter on TV or has anybody called for a Yes/No vote?
Apart from Fine Gael calling for a Yes vote I haven't heard anything else about it.
There isn't even a mention of it in the Parish newsletter.

Yermande

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think the result of this will be a yes vote by over 80%+

What do you think the result will be?

Also has there being any debate on this matter on TV or has anybody called for a Yes/No vote?
Apart from Fine Gael calling for a Yes vote I haven't heard anything else about it.
There isn't even a mention of it in the Parish newsletter.

I'd say 65-70%.

troyzer

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think the result of this will be a yes vote by over 80%+

What do you think the result will be?

Also has there being any debate on this matter on TV or has anybody called for a Yes/No vote?
Apart from Fine Gael calling for a Yes vote I haven't heard anything else about it.
There isn't even a mention of it in the Parish newsletter.

My understanding is that the typical Catholic right who would oppose this aren't going to bother, they lost the war 20 years ago and this was inevitable. They haven't a prayer.

eviltwin

You know it's a done deal when Iona have said they won't oppose it.

Would the requirement for balance in referendum discussions be the reason there has been no real attention given to this in the media ?

troyzer

eviltwin wrote: »

You know it's a done deal when Iona have said they won't oppose it.

Would the requirement for balance in referendum discussions be the reason there has been no real attention given to this in the media ?

The likes of RTÉ keep a clock of every minute they give to each side of a referendum during the campaign. I doubt it'll be necessary in this case but it's there when some inevitable ****wit up the side of a mountain files for an injunction.

kneemos

People will get a ballot paper on Friday and wonder what the hell is this.

ILoveYourVibes

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think the result of this will be a yes vote by over 80%+

What do you think the result will be?

Also has there being any debate on this matter on TV or has anybody called for a Yes/No vote?
Apart from Fine Gael calling for a Yes vote I haven't heard anything else about it.
There isn't even a mention of it in the Parish newsletter.

I think you are correct.

Everyone has a family member that has been through a 5 yr marriage followed by ten yr divorce. It can't go on.

Tom Mann Centuria

Lisa needs braces.

dxhound2005

kneemos wrote: »

People will get a ballot paper on Friday and wonder what the hell is this.

People with a university education should be able to figure it out.

Canis Lupus

If the holy rollers can't stop gay marriage they've no chance with divorce.

whisky_galore

Will the "home to vote" people come home this time?

JupiterKid

Yes, this referendum has been very low key and has been completely overshadowed by the European and to a lesser extent, the local elections.

I’d say it will comfortably pass.

hank scorpio89

Divorce referendum...you flipping flipper!its the knackers yard for you pal!

tuxy

dxhound2005 wrote: »

People with a university education should be able to figure it out.

Ture but what about the majority of the voting public?

Force Carrier

tuxy wrote: »

Ture but what about the majority of the voting public?

They're divorced from reality.

Sam Quentin

If you love her let her go!?

suicide_circus

bit strange putting two questions into one. in this case its a no brainer but i wouldn't like this to set a precedent. What if you wanted to answer yes to one and no to the other? you dont have that choice here.

Pherekydes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think you are correct.

Everyone has a family member that has been through a 5 yr marriage followed by ten yr divorce. It can't go on.

My 7 year marriage was ended 16 years later! In a foreign divorce!

TuringBot47

Just as long as we're not voting for gay divorce.
Since they fought so hard for gay marriage, they should take it seriously.

Beta Ray Bill

I've not idea what the turnout will be, nor do I really care.

Getting married is for ticks!
Honestly, who in their right mind would get married from 2019 on.

ToddyDoody

Div Ref 2019

OldGoat

What I found strange about the ref is that there are two distinct questions asked yet only one vote. So, if you support one of the arguments but not the other you're ****ed.

Wanderer78

TuringBot47 wrote:

Just as long as we're not voting for gay divorce. Since they fought so hard for gay marriage, they should take it seriously.

So if their marriage breaks down, they should take their misery serious? Sorry, I'm not sure what you're getting to here

bear1

It still shouldn't be two years.
If you both decide you want to be rid of each other then it shouldn't be up to a court to say how long you must be separated.

kneemos

bear1 wrote: »

It still shouldn't be two years.
If you both decide you want to be rid of each other then it shouldn't be up to a court to say how long you must be separated.

If you both want a divorce how do they prove you haven't been separated for several years?

murpho999

bear1 wrote: »

It still shouldn't be two years.
If you both decide you want to be rid of each other then it shouldn't be up to a court to say how long you must be separated.

I would go even further and say that it should be up to one person.

There should not need to be two. If one person wants out then the marriage is over.

Also, agree that there should be no time stipulation. The counter argument is that they won't "quickie divorces" but I don't see what the fear is.

If people want to stay married they will stay married, making divorce easier will not lead to an increase.

bear1

kneemos wrote: »

If you both want a divorce how do they prove you haven't been separated for several years?

Why do they need to prove anything?
I and the wife want a divorce, we go and file.
We are told nope you must be apart for 2 years first.
It restricts you completely and just drags it out longer than needed.

eviltwin

eviltwin wrote: »

You know it's a done deal when Iona have said they won't oppose it.

Oh I dunno - their hateful nonsense likely _helped_ us get the right result in the more recent referendums.

I wonder if their staying shtum this time is a wise tactical move we should actually be concerned about.

Getting those people talking - is often the best thing we can do on some issues.

DavyD_83

There was a 'debate' on Sean O'Rourke last week, the lady brought on for no side was somebody who had a history of campaigning against divorce in the past.
Even she didn't really care about trying to stop this. She said that she had recommended 2yrs back in 1995 and didn't understand why it had been set at 4.

freshpopcorn

Voting Yes on Friday may hurt families!

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Bishop-Buckley-voting-Yes-in-divorce-referendum-may-hurt-families-20cda886-3b7f-4cc8-b3d8-a3c470b015e3-ds?fbclid=IwAR0dusVEXq-o5cyanPY6vaoocDanAB_HSgOnvQcIY1XNjFQx6KKuM10l9E8

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whisky_galore wrote: »

Will the "home to vote" people come home this time?

No need. We save our efforts for fights that need fighting.

LirW

DavyD_83 wrote: »

There was a 'debate' on Sean O'Rourke last week, the lady brought on for no side was somebody who had a history of campaigning against divorce in the past.
Even she didn't really care about trying to stop this. She said that she had recommended 2yrs back in 1995 and didn't understand why it had been set at 4.

There was a lady on Matt Cooper for the No side and she was utterly deluded, she kept going on about how somebody should think of the emotional damage of the children not copping that she was repeatedly asked that they're talking about marriages beyond reconciliation. So there are thicks out there but this must be a total minority.

holliehobbie

bear1 wrote: »

Why do they need to prove anything?
I and the wife want a divorce, we go and file.
We are told nope you must be apart for 2 years first.
It restricts you completely and just drags it out longer than needed.

It's better than waiting 4 years! And people could go straight to Divorce rather than a Legal Separation which takes nearly as long due to the Irish Court system not being fit for purpose.

troyzer

I think the obvious solution here is to bring in quickee divorces for childless couples and have some sort of mandatory period for couples with kids.

All avenues should be exhausted if there are kids involved. But if two adults both want a divorce and there are no kids, they should be able to do it amicably in a day.

Dank Janniels

The amount of people who dont know or dont care what this is about is shocking! The same last year with the blasphemy 1, no1 had a clue. I thought a flyer was meant to go around to all the houses but we didnt get any.
Then ofcourse theres the cohort of people saying well FG say to vote yes so wel vote no to punish them for closing postoffices!