Question about a supplement

.Charlo

I have just picked up some muscle rage quad and muscle rage king test from the supplement store in Blanchardstown. Cant find too many reviews online of either product.

Has anyone used either of these products?

Alf Veedersane

The test booster isn't worth a whole lot, to be honest. Not just that brand - they're generally not much use.

Mellor

The test king is just a typical test booster supplement. Overpriced DAA with a multivitamin.


The quad one however isn't a supplement. I'd do my reasearch before you take that one. Just make sure you know what's in it.

Alf Veedersane

For a starter, Osta Rage is probably Ostarine, which has resulted in doping bans in some high profile cases.

Health warnings have been issued for Cardarine.

Second what Mellor said, do some proper research into it.

.Charlo

Thanks lads.

Alf Veedersane

Worth having a listen to this podcast on SARMs on what they are and how they work. It's a bit sciencey but I think it's explained relatively well.

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

For a starter, Osta Rage is probably Ostarine, which has resulted in doping bans in some high profile cases.

There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.

.Charlo

Mellor wrote: »

There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.

Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

There no probably. The ingredients are listed the bottom. That said, being responsible for doping bans is purely because it's on the WADA list itself.

Didn't see the actual ingredients...just saw the description of the 4.

I had included the reference to WASA as just being for info, just as an FYI for what it was worth to the OP.

Alf Veedersane

.Charlo wrote: »

Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?

Pretty sure they're not illegal.

Mellor

.Charlo wrote: »

Yeah I seen a couple of MMA fighters got done for LGD4033. I thinks it's only recently been added to the WADA list. On the legality of it, it's not classed as a steroid so is it legal?

It's not a steroid.
It is a drug.
It legal, for now at least.

paw patrol

what fcuking shop is selling sarms to a fella who didn't ask for sarms or doesn't know that what they buying is sarms.
No offence to you OP , the shop shouldn't be selling that stuff to punters who don't ask for it

.Charlo

paw patrol wrote: »

what fcuking shop is selling sarms to a fella who didn't ask for sarms or doesn't know that what they buying is sarms.
No offence to you OP , the shop shouldn't be selling that stuff to punters who don't ask for it

I knew what it was, I was being careful with the wording in the OP because I wasnt sure on the legality. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experiences of the stuff.

paw patrol

.Charlo wrote: »

I knew what it was, I was being careful with the wording in the OP because I wasnt sure on the legality. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experiences of the stuff.

ah right
fair enough - my outrage is back to medium.:pac:

abc2304

.Charlo wrote: »

I have just picked up some muscle rage quad and muscle rage king test from the supplement store in Blanchardstown. Cant find too many reviews online of either product.

Has anyone used either of these products?

From what I understand, 'sarms' seem to fall into a legal grey area in Ireland. It appears that it's not legal to sell them in Ireland, but many people source them from the UK or NI

abc2304

abc2304 wrote: »

From what I understand, 'sarms' seem to fall into a legal grey area in Ireland. It appears that it's not legal to sell them in Ireland, but many people source them from the UK or NI

I have found an Irish supplier if anyone's still interested? https://reinforced.ie/

granny_slayer

https://reinforced.ie/products/destiny-labs-zeus

Anyone have any experience with this product ?

Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest.

Any reply appreciated, or if any could point me in the right direction.

Mellor

granny_slayer wrote: »

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Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest..

High based on what?

paw patrol

granny_slayer wrote: »

https://reinforced.ie/products/destiny-labs-zeus

Anyone have any experience with this product ?

Experienced lifter here, the recommended dosage on it seems high to be honest.

Any reply appreciated, or if any could point me in the right direction.

I've not taken sarms myself but I have looked at them out of curiosity

Firstly - label looks like a rip off of enhanced athletes (tony huge) range.
which admittedly a subjective measure it does to cause my spidey senses to tingle that it's a cheap brand.

As you said - look at the doses here.
Per capsule the 20mg Ostarine is near the max recommended "safe" of 25mg per day
Taking 2 capsules a day will increase risk of side effects and you may need a PCT after . However that they actually advise 1-2 capsules a day would lead me to suspect that it may be under-dosed or they are reckless as fcuk cos you know lads will take the max dose.

The mk677 dose is fine. i can't recall much about LGD-4033.

Mellor wrote: »

High based on what?

I'm guessing he means based on research and the recommended dose

granny_slayer

paw patrol wrote: »

I've not taken sarms myself but I have looked at them out of curiosity

Firstly - label looks like a rip off of enhanced athletes (tony huge) range.
which admittedly a subjective measure it does to cause my spidey senses to tingle that it's a cheap brand.

As you said - look at the doses here.
Per capsule the 20mg Ostarine is near the max recommended "safe" of 25mg per day
Taking 2 capsules a day will increase risk of side effects and you may need a PCT after . However that they actually advise 1-2 capsules a day would lead me to suspect that it may be under-dosed or they are reckless as fcuk cos you know lads will take the max dose.

The mk677 dose is fine. i can't recall much about LGD-4033.



I'm guessing he means based on research and the recommended dose

Thanks for the reply, yes I think your spot, and another thing is it specifically states after the dosage that a PCT is not required. I cant find anyting about on the web. I wonder is the lab irish?

the_dowdall_fella

Can any tell me where theses products are available

luketitz

I got the 'shred' stack here after doing my research, the purity certificates these guys offer helped put my mind af ease - https://www.uksarms.com/product-category/buy-sarms/

Haven't started using it yet though, kinda having second thought after listening to the podcast linked In the thread above!