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Fiat Ducato camper build

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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


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  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thru bolting? Wherever possible I fit roof bars and bolt the panel to standard PV rail with standard clamps bolted to the roof-bars.

    60 Cell! Noice. What controller are you running it on dare I ask?

    Sorry I've been buying all the bargain MorningStar MPPTs that turned up over the last few weeks. :p


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If yer open skylights cast shadows on the panel it'll stop it from working. Park awning side towards the sun and I generally fit the fridge the opposite side to take advantage of the cooler air intake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Roof rails aren’t an option for us because of the awning. The curve of the roof limited our options a bit too. It’s solid as frig and held down by 8 separate brackets though so no worries there.


    You won’t like the controller :D


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What kelvin is the LED strip you used?


    Here decent quality high density very bright 2700°K. Get some cheap trunking for it with a milky diffuser.


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  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Roof rails aren’t an option for us because of the awning. The curve of the roof limited our options a bit too. It’s solid as frig and held down by 8 separate brackets though so no worries there.


    It's the leaks I worry about more.
    I knew you'd say that. I mount the awning to the rails/rack too.

    {EDIT} looks like there's no other option, yer roof doesn't seem to have any friendly clamping facility...



    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You won’t like the controller :D


    I figured it'd be the same colour as the rest. :p

    Well if the hydrometer reads 1.28 after 2 weeks on float then it's a good one. If not what it does read is the disparity between that and a high end one.
    Rubber meets the road and all that...
    I never trust a charger until it's proven. You'd be surprised how bad some are...


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Actually, watch the awning doesn't give you a longitudinal shadow too or it'll derate the panel 50%. It'd be better to have the panel flush with the top of the awning. You'd be amazed how a tiny shadow can decimate the output. I'd recommend fitting a decent battery monitor too, one with Ah counting and instantaneous power readings. Invaluable tool.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    It's the leaks I worry about more.
    I knew you'd say that. I mount the awning to the rails/rack too.

    {EDIT} looks like there's no other option, yer roof doesn't seem to have any friendly clamping facility...


    I figured it'd be the same colour as the rest. :p

    Well if the hydrometer reads 1.28 after 2 weeks on float then it's a good one. If not what it does read is the disparity between that and a high end one.
    Rubber meets the road and all that...
    I never trust a charger until it's proven. You'd be surprised how bad some are...

    The brackets are all sealed up so I can’t see there being issues with leaks. We used Wurth K&D which is brilliant stuff.

    Ref the controller, it’s a Victron, think it’s a Smart Solar. The one with Bluetooth anyway.

    We didn’t strictly need solar in the first place but the panel came in pretty reasonable, so the setup will definitely exceed what we need it to do.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can always fiberglass over the brackets if there is. I just habitually hate drilling rooves.

    Them blue boxes are very popular for the Bluetooth alright. Not very many of their customers have hydrometers, or open-cell batteries for that matter. At least they have BT temperature sensors these days. They must work better than the internally stifled ticky box ones that they used to sport.
    I've had a few of their products...could do worse could do better...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ratracer


    You must be nearly finished now colm?

    This has been a great thread, the standard of work ye have put in is superb! Hope the Covid f**k’s off soon, and that ye get many happy miles/ events/ festivals in it!!

    Some day I’m gonna try something similar, so will be book marking this for reference!! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I’d say we are around 80% finished.
    Still got all the plumbing to do, toilet/shower room is missing a wall, water heater not installed

    There’s still a bit left, but it’s really just fitting parts rather than head scratching and planning.

    The weather and short days rather than COVID are the biggest problems.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't forget the battery monitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Don't forget the battery monitor.

    I think the CBE control panel does all that?


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nah that's just a voltmeter and tank level sensor display.

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    Hard to find a decent battery monitor besides. I've chucked €300 meters in the bin beside €25 meters.
    The one I linked to is exceptionally good for the price. You'd be looking at €250 for a better one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    What is that going to do for me though?

    Not too up on these things.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Battery fuel gauge.

    Tells you if you chargers are working & how hard, or you left an appliance on or there's bird poo on the solar panel or that blue boxes aren't meeting specification etc..


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Battery fuel gauge.

    Tells you if you chargers are working & how hard, or you left an appliance on or there's bird poo on the solar panel or that blue boxes aren't meeting specification etc..

    Won’t the Victron app show all that though?


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope that's just going to show you the solar aspect. Solar input and LVD loads if it has any..beside I always find it a good idea to have independent metering that can't produce favourable results of the product it's metering. Of course, the victron charger will say it's charged the battery, a hydrometer won't though.
    I don't know much about the app, I tried their chargers, meters and inverters and you can't fix those with an app. so I stopped buying their stuff. If it is giving battery SOC info then it'll be contrived/inferred based on voltage because it's not a shunted system so rather inaccurate and whimsical.


    The battery monitor measures everything in and out of the battery and expresses it as a percentage. You can see running load and charge as well as the actual calculated reserve level.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I had a look at that blue box manual, there's a lottov features alright.

    The tail current one is of the most interest. If you set that to the minimum non-zero value possible then it ought to charge pretty well.
    The internal temperature sensor doesn't work, the BT one is not that expensive. I would hope it's real-time feedback instead of a once a day reference it's a pretty important feature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The main idea of using the app on the Victron was to minimise the amount of dials and panels in the van, trying to keep it as clean as possible.
    We will see how we get on with that and whatever info the CBE panel gives for now.


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  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never got this app thing nor these digital light bulbs. Can't lose a switch that's wired to the wall and it not moving is a good thing imo.

    I'm a bittova luddite sometimes. New doesn't impress me as much as proven reliability.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I never got this app thing nor these digital light bulbs. Can't lose a switch that's wired to the wall and it not moving is a good thing imo.

    I'm a bittova luddite sometimes. New doesn't impress me as much as proven reliability.

    I’d agree with you about the light bulbs anyway!


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Looks a great build Colm. Re: lights, are they LED strips that allow you to adjust the colour of the light?

    I went all in on Philips Hue stuff a while back and it really makes a difference in a small space like that to be able to change the light. My sister got a cheaper version on Amazon recently that seems a good, budget, alternative as the Hue stuff is pricey. Well wear though, looks class!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They’re just standard LEDs.

    The main ones dim, so that’s enough for us!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Got this magnetic button for the service door.
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    Keeps the door open
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    Still a good bit to do here


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Have you a solution for privacy from the cab windows?


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Have you a solution for privacy from the cab windows?

    Thermal blinds that stuck in with sucker yokes. They do them for the Transit too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Little bit more progress today

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    Still a bit of adjustment to do here and there on the kitchen drawers - but happy overall.


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