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Where to buy

  • 16-05-2019 12:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87


    Hi,

    Two months left to start looking for a house to buy.

    You guys say Dublin 1 is dangerous, d15, crumlin, ballyfermot, blanch. Almost all of the one we can afford. The question is where these days is now safe where the kid is stabbed near Dudrum, the eara quite nice and expensive.

    What possibly could happend or is happening that is dangerous. I am really really lost.

    We have 250k budget. I am thinking even we go to Portlaoise, buy the house for 150k and be mortgage free in 10 years max.
    We want to get something asap.

    BTW now we live in Dublin 8, the area not very nice for some of you but in my perception is okey. Yes, there are scums walking and loads of rubish but in general is okey

    Please help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Two months left to start looking for a house to buy.

    You guys say Dublin 1 is dangerous, d15, crumlin, ballyfermot, blanch. Almost all of the one we can afford. The question is where these days is now safe where the kid is stabbed near Dudrum, the eara quite nice and expensive.

    What possibly could happend or is happening that is dangerous. I am really really lost.

    We have 250k budget. I am thinking even we go to Portlaoise, buy the house for 150k and be mortgage free in 10 years max.
    We want to get something asap.

    BTW now we live in Dublin 8, the area not very nice for some of you but in my perception is okey. Yes, there are scums walking and loads of rubish but in general is okey

    Please help

    250k is a healthy budget for a 3/4 bed semi in Louth / Meath. Far closer to Dublin than Laois too. Smaller towns from Drogheda south have great access to the city if you need it and have their own decent amenities too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Every area has it's downsides. If the papers are to be believed Louth is a warzone - it's patently not. Use online forums and Facebook groups along with a lot of visiting places at odd hours to do your research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Dublin 15 is very large and ive lived there for years. Its not dangerous .. where you get that from. Only place I was every robbed was in ranelagh. Property can be got in Dublin 15 for alot less than 250k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    What do you actually need from your future home? How many of there are you? What hobbies do you have? What amenities do you absolutely have to have near by? Where do you need to get to for work? If you move jobs, what areas are other employers in your industry based in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    The tinker war in Drogheda aside, Louth is as close to Dublin as meath and is somewhat cheaper, if you go with meath, trim is a lovely town


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  • Site Banned Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Balanadan


    Every area has it's downsides. If the papers are to be believed Louth is a warzone - it's patently not. Use online forums and Facebook groups along with a lot of visiting places at odd hours to do your research.

    I'd rather live in Baghdad than Louth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87


    Thank you Everyone for suggestion.

    I think there is no really area where you can fell safe 100%. We are foreigners and we do not mind to be in the mixed area as long as is safe :)
    For me : 2/3 bedroom house, conditions ready to move in, garden. There will be 3 or max 4 of us :)
    The most important is to be not far away from city centre. We cycle and not own the car. As this is the additional cost for couple of years we would not like to have a car, that is why county Dublin would be preferable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Thank you Everyone for suggestion.

    I think there is no really area where you can fell safe 100%. We are foreigners and we do not mind to be in the mixed area as long as is safe :)
    For me : 2/3 bedroom house, conditions ready to move in, garden. There will be 3 or max 4 of us :)
    The most important is to be not far away from city centre. We cycle and not own the car. As this is the additional cost for couple of years we would not like to have a car, that is why county Dublin would be preferable.

    look around d 15 its very diverse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Every area has it's downsides. If the papers are to be believed Louth is a warzone - it's patently not. Use online forums and Facebook groups along with a lot of visiting places at odd hours to do your research.

    Louth is definitely a warzone. 2 of the ****tiest towns in Ireland are in Louth


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87



    Thank you.

    We do consider Balbriggan in the "worst" scenario, when we will not be able to get anything close Dublin 8 or 12 ( our first choice). The houses you sent they are gorgeous.
    Is there any area of Balbriggan that is better to avoid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Gerry G wrote: »
    Louth is definitely a warzone. 2 of the ****tiest towns in Ireland are in Louth

    Warzone? 2 families feuding? A bit of a dramatic statement I would say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Warzone? 2 families feuding? A bit of a dramatic statement I would say.

    It's much more than 2 families feuding. Drogheda and dundalk were kips long before any of these new nippers came along. It's a cesspit of a town


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Gerry G wrote: »
    It's much more than 2 families feuding. Drogheda and dundalk were kips long before any of these new nippers came along. It's a cesspit of a town

    Are you from there and speaking from personal experience ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Are you from there and speaking from personal experience ?

    I'm most definitely speaking from experience. I've lived in both, mostly Dundalk which in my humble opinion is hell on earth. Horrible place followed closely br Drogheda


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Gerry G wrote: »
    I'm most definitely speaking from experience. I've lived in both, mostly Dundalk which in my humble opinion is hell on earth. Horrible place followed closely br Drogheda

    What utopia do you live in now ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    What utopia do you live in now ?

    It's far from Utopia I can tell you but it's even further from Drogheda or dundalk. Kips


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    The near (inchocore) side of ballyfermot is ok, there may even be some properties in inchicore that may be in that budget as well, and there is fine bar a few areas - flats near st michaels, towards bluebell etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Gerry G wrote: »
    It's far from Utopia I can tell you but it's even further from Drogheda or dundalk. Kips

    Excellent information, great to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Excellent information, great to know.

    Any time, I'm here all week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Sono


    Dublin 15 is very large and ive lived there for years. Its not dangerous .. where you get that from. Only place I was every robbed was in ranelagh. Property can be got in Dublin 15 for alot less than 250k

    I am from D15 and I would not fancy buying a house for 250k there at the moment, you would end up in a kip of an area imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Sono wrote: »
    Dublin 15 is very large and ive lived there for years. Its not dangerous .. where you get that from. Only place I was every robbed was in ranelagh. Property can be got in Dublin 15 for alot less than 250k

    I am from D15 and I would not fancy buying a house for 250k there at the moment, you would end up in a kip of an area imo.


    I would.say that. Id say fro 250 youd get a Nice house. Whzt about where you are living ? Any more issues with your own neighbours ? Where are you living again ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    I think if you're willing to consider duplexes or ground floor apartments you'll get something in a decent area that's comfortable and commutable in Dublin.

    Somewhere like Waterville in D15 might suit. Handy to Blanchardstown centre and Blanch village when you cut through the hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Sono


    I would.say that. Id say fro 250 youd get a Nice house. Whzt about where you are living ? Any more issues with your own neighbours ? Where are you living again ?

    A quick search on Daft will confirm you will not get much for 250k in D15 in today’s market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Sono


    I think if you're willing to consider duplexes or ground floor apartments you'll get something in a decent area that's comfortable and commutable in Dublin.

    Somewhere like Waterville in D15 might suit. Handy to Blanchardstown centre and Blanch village when you cut through the hospital.

    I was looking at houses 3 bed minimum, I disregarded apartments in my search, I wouldn’t disagree with Waterville but I thought they mentioned needing a house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87


    Thank you Guys for all suggestions.

    No, we will not go for apartment or duplex as we do not want to pay management fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Thank you Everyone for suggestion.

    I think there is no really area where you can fell safe 100%. We are foreigners and we do not mind to be in the mixed area as long as is safe :)
    For me : 2/3 bedroom house, conditions ready to move in, garden. There will be 3 or max 4 of us :)
    The most important is to be not far away from city centre. We cycle and not own the car. As this is the additional cost for couple of years we would not like to have a car, that is why county Dublin would be preferable.
    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Thank you Guys for all suggestions.

    No, we will not go for apartment or duplex as we do not want to pay management fee.

    To be honest you’re asking too much then.
    Dublin is a decent sized city, you want a house + land = low density living but you also want the car free lifestyle and convenience to the Centre and amenities = high density living aka an apartment block/duplex.

    You can get both but typically at a €€€€ which you don’t have, or if you take a massive risk on area which I wouldn’t advise if you have a kid.

    People see management fees as this crazy expense. You’re paying to maintain your property - the roof, the windows, the walls, the car parking space. You will pay the same money or close to it in a house it’ll just come in drips and tidal waves over the years instead of as a neat annual bill.

    You’re going to have to decide what gives to square the circle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87


    To be honest you’re asking too much then.
    Dublin is a decent sized city, you want a house + land = low density living but you also want the car free lifestyle and convenience to the Centre and amenities = high density living aka an apartment block/duplex.

    You can get both but typically at a €€€€ which you don’t have, or if you take a massive risk on area which I wouldn’t advise if you have a kid.

    People see management fees as this crazy expense. You’re paying to maintain your property - the roof, the windows, the walls, the car parking space. You will pay the same money or close to it in a house it’ll just come in drips and tidal waves over the years instead of as a neat annual bill.

    You’re going to have to decide what gives to square the circle.

    Maybe you are right. Want to have it all under 250k. The management fee I do not even mind to pay as long as they do ther job. My mother in law just got increase of fee for her 1 bedroom apt to 2000€/ year. The company does not do their job properly, she is not allowed to have a dog in the house, put the laundry on the shared balcony. Too much limitation. Also personal reasons we need another floor.

    Another point is one day when you are mortgage free you still have this management fee on your shoulder and you never know how much it is going to be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Gerry G wrote: »
    It's much more than 2 families feuding. Drogheda and dundalk were kips long before any of these new nippers came along. It's a cesspit of a town

    BS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Do you not have a ongoing fight with your neighbours ?

    I do but that's not area specific, that could happen anywhere. Everyone else is positively lovely, kids playing on the streets, neighbours out talking to one another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭jim-mcdee


    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Thank you.
    Is there any area of Balbriggan that is better to avoid?

    Yes. Avoid Legoland.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Swords?Lusk?Rush?Donabate?(although that mightn't suit your budget too much)All good transport links, bus and train.Closer than balbriggan.Nice towns, nice beaches, plenty of life in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,232 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    You are not going to get (1) a house (2) in a nice area (3) near to the city centre, for 250k.

    Possibly none of those things for that money.

    So decide what is most important, and maybe look online yourself.

    Otherwise this is a giant waste of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Lumen wrote: »
    You are not going to get (1) a house (2) in a nice area (3) near to the city centre, for 250k.

    Possibly none of those things for that money.

    So decide what is most important, and maybe look online yourself.

    Otherwise this is a giant waste of time.

    This


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭afkasurfjunkie


    Please explain how you cannot afford a car but expect to be mortgage free in 10 years if you buy in the midlands for €150,000!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Please explain how you cannot afford a car but expect to be mortgage free in 10 years if you buy in the midlands for €150,000!

    Annual railway ticket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Please explain how you cannot afford a car but expect to be mortgage free in 10 years if you buy in the midlands for €150,000!


    He's not gonna buy a car for starters! :pac:


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are houses for 250,000 Euro or less in Dublin 8 & Dublin 12, mostly 2 bed though.
    You should be able to find something OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87


    I would like to know your opinion on buying the house nice one, in Portlaoise with the price range 120 to 150 k Max, no need for renovation with deposit of 50k.

    Nice quiet with one disadvantage of travelling to work. But then maybe when we Are 50 working part Time, or find the job outside of Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Price range 120-150k including the deposit or the deposit on top? If 150 max overall budget you won't be getting anything in walk-in condition in Portlaoise that has 3 bedrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭elizunia87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭YipeeDee


    elizunia87 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Two months left to start looking for a house to buy.

    You guys say Dublin 1 is dangerous, d15, crumlin, ballyfermot, blanch. Almost all of the one we can afford. The question is where these days is now safe where the kid is stabbed near Dudrum, the eara quite nice and expensive.

    What possibly could happend or is happening that is dangerous. I am really really lost.

    We have 250k budget. I am thinking even we go to Portlaoise, buy the house for 150k and be mortgage free in 10 years max.
    We want to get something asap.

    BTW now we live in Dublin 8, the area not very nice for some of you but in my perception is okey. Yes, there are scums walking and loads of rubish but in general is okey

    Please help
    I grew up in lower Ballyfermot. (The Inchicore end)
    Was very rough in the 80’s, gained a horrible reputation but not like that now.
    I still have friends there and regularly visit.
    I am speaking only about the lower end near Inchicore only.
    The upper end still is fairly dodgy IMO.
    They are ex corporation houses sold off to sitting social tenants.
    In the lower end, many of them are now elderly and passing away, so there’s quite a few for sale.
    It has become quite diverse in the last few years.
    People are buying them because of their proximity to the city centre.
    Next door to one of my friends an Austrian couple and German couple a few doors away.
    It’s relatively quiet these days, grandkids around on Sundays and oldies in the pubs.
    Quite a few funerals as the old neighbours pass away.
    A fair few people let rooms to the students from Ballyfermot College.
    I wouldn’t have a problem living there but, again I grew up there and have seen how it has changed.
    And again, I am only speaking about the lower end (Inichore end)
    Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    elizunia87 wrote: »

    I looked into Portlaoise 2 years back and got told all 3 estates that you listed here are on the rough side. Don't know if it got better though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 bbaja42


    To follow up what OP asked, is there an area where you can buy a 3 bed house, still not too far from city center, without needing a car; but raising a limit from 250 to 350?

    As example, assuming this is a nice neighbourhood, this tells me I still have some hope:
    auctioneera 1e-emmett-court-st-vincent-street-west-inchicore-dublin-d08-p2wd

    3 bed , in what on google maps looks nice area, sold for 326


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    I sold a one bed apartment in Dublin 18 and just bought a three bedroom house off Monastery Road in Clondalkin for the same money.

    I have a four minute walk to a Luas stop and 5 bus routes pass the house. The grand canal cycle path even takes me into Baggot Street in 25 mins.

    I grew up in Clondalkin and never had it my head that I would move back for no good reason anyway. Have a look around Clondalkin village and the type of bars and cafes that are opening. You might be surprised.

    Hard to pay over 300k for a 3 bed.

    On another point a friend of mine who's an accountant from Donegal bought a house in Crumlin and is so happy with it hes bought a second.

    I think Dublin is a bit odd in that in London if there were such huge price differentials between places that are beside each other say Crumlin and Harolds Cross , they would vanish in a year but in Ireland they seem to persist.

    You'll get internet warriors who live with Mammy or rent a room throwing all sorts but walk out to places your interested in and have a look. A lot of these places are enormous and need to be seen to be best understood.




  • bbaja42 wrote: »
    To follow up what OP asked, is there an area where you can buy a 3 bed house, still not too far from city center, without needing a car; but raising a limit from 250 to 350?

    As example, assuming this is a nice neighbourhood, this tells me I still have some hope:
    auctioneera 1e-emmett-court-st-vincent-street-west-inchicore-dublin-d08-p2wd

    3 bed , in what on google maps looks nice area, sold for 326


    Have a look in D7 maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    If you're willing to put up with the odd character D5 would be an option at 350K you'd be near enough the DART line. It's a working class area - in the proper sense of the term, where people actually work - but I like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    If you're willing to put up with the odd character D5 would be an option at 350K you'd be near enough the DART line. It's a working class area - in the proper sense of the term, where people actually work - but I like it.

    Would second that. Great areas in D5


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