It: Chapter Two

Agent Coulson · 09-05-2019 6:23pm #1

There may be spoilers in the trailer.

py2006 · 09-05-2019 6:41pm

Looks great but they seemed to have spent a lot of time on that one scene at the start. 2.15 secs, which seemed more like a preview than a teaser.

The White Wolf · 09-05-2019 7:41pm

Strange trailer, creepy as fcuk at the beginning only to jump into an Avengers type montage. Guess they have to sell those tickets. :P

CastorTroy · 09-05-2019 8:25pm

I remember for the miniseries, feeling the second part let it down. Hopefully this isn't the same. I actually preferred the first half of the miniseries over the first movie. And looks like this could be going the same path as the first part.

Mr Crispy · 09-05-2019 9:24pm

It's been 25 years since I read the book, but iirc there were some bat **** crazy parts to it - it'll be interesting to see how they play part two.

Jurgen The German · 09-05-2019 9:48pm

Love the first 2 mins of that trailer and am very much looking forward to the movie.

w/s/p/c/ · 10-05-2019 8:47am

Looks great, but too much time in the trailer spent on the one scene! Still cant wait to watch.

El Duda · 10-05-2019 10:00am

Looks just as awful and loud as the first one.

I will be buying tickets

Dades · 10-05-2019 12:25pm

Great trailer for me. Nice slow buildup to a more generic montage to finish.

I can't generally watch horror, but I loved this book so much when I was younger I had to watch IT, and now this this.

With the lights on.

PressRun · 10-05-2019 1:36pm

Great trailer and I like the look of the casting too.
I enjoyed the nostalgia factor of the first one, so will be definitely watching this.

razorblunt · 10-05-2019 2:29pm

Is McAvoy "Big" Bill? Seems a bit off.

Dades · 10-05-2019 2:45pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Is McAvoy "Big" Bill? Seems a bit off.

Was Bill supposed to be tall, or big? Don't recall that. I'd ask if that's a character trait that matters to the story. If not... have at it.

Tony EH · 10-05-2019 3:23pm

That's just an odd trailer. Had me right up until the "team up" part.

This 'It' is just weird. It's nothing like the book, while still being relatively entertaining, despite the quiet, quiet, loud crap. But, I think it works better if you haven't read the King novel or aren't familiar with it at all.

I also think that it's going to lose a lot without the kids, who were a big part of the draw in chapter one.

PressRun · 10-05-2019 3:39pm

Tony EH wrote: »

That's just an odd trailer. Had me right up until the "team up" part.

This 'It' is just weird. It's nothing like the book, while still being relatively entertaining, despite the quiet, quiet, loud crap. But, I think it works better if you haven't read the King novel or aren't familiar with it at all.

I also think that it's going to lose a lot without the kids, who were a big part of the draw in chapter one.

I loved the book, read it a couple of times during my teenage years. I thought the first film was great. I thought they captured the atmosphere of the novel quite well, while giving it a nostalgic edge as well. There were obviously parts of the book that couldn't be translated to screen and they shaved parts out (Stephen King has long needed a good editor in his life, so I wasn't too put out by that), but overall I thought they did a good job with the material.
As far as I know, the kids will be playing some role in this movie as well, I guess maybe in flashbacks?

Tony EH · 10-05-2019 3:55pm

PressRun wrote: »

I loved the book, read it a couple of times during my teenage years. I thought the first film was great. I thought they captured the atmosphere of the novel quite well, while giving it a nostalgic edge as well. There were obviously parts of the book that couldn't be translated to screen and they shaved parts out (Stephen King has long needed a good editor in his life, so I wasn't too put out by that), but overall I thought they did a good job with the material.
As far as I know, the kids will be playing some role in this movie as well, I guess maybe in flashbacks?

"Atmosphere" is pretty nebulous though. 'Stranger Things' "captures the atmosphere" of 'It' as well, but has nothing to do with Stephen King's book.

I mean, really, the only thing that truly links the two mediums is Pennywise and even he's nothing like he was in the novel. It's its own thing in the vast majority of ways and I think this chapter will be even more so.

No doubt the kids will be in some flashback sequences, but the film will centre on the adults and therefore, lose a lot of the charm that Chapter One had. Rather like the book, I might add, which was at its best and most gripping when dealing with the children and their fears.

razorblunt · 11-05-2019 10:54am

Dades wrote: »

Was Bill supposed to be tall, or big? Don't recall that. I'd ask if that's a character trait that matters to the story. If not... have at it.

I might be remembering the book wrong but I thought he was. Not a huge deal but something that jarred me.

TomSweeney · 11-05-2019 2:07pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Strange trailer, creepy as fcuk at the beginning only to jump into an Avengers type montage. Guess they have to sell those tickets. :P

Wow ... that's proper horror, the way the old woman moves in the background made my skin crawl!!!!

Proper subtle stuff, no doubt the film itself will be full of jumps, but looking forward to it - it's my favourite novel.

TomSweeney · 11-05-2019 2:08pm

razorblunt wrote: »

I might be remembering the book wrong but I thought he was. Not a huge deal but something that jarred me.

Ben Hanscomb was the fat kit, Bill was regular enough, maybe a bit tall for his age.. can't remember fully.

The White Wolf · 11-05-2019 2:17pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Wow ... that's proper horror, the way the old woman moves in the background made my skin crawl!!!!

Proper subtle stuff, no doubt the film itself will be full of jumps, but looking forward to it - it's my favourite novel.

I haven't read the novel yet, I know the rough story though, what do you think of them seemingly giving Pennywise a human origin? Or maybe Pennywise just did that to **** with Bev due to her father's abuse.

TomSweeney · 11-05-2019 2:18pm

Tony EH wrote: »

"Atmosphere" is pretty nebulous though. 'Stranger Things' "captures the atmosphere" of 'It' as well, but has nothing to do with Stephen King's book.

I mean, really, the only thing that truly links the two mediums is Pennywise and even he's nothing like he was in the novel. It's its own thing in the vast majority of ways and I think this chapter will be even more so.

No doubt the kids will be in some flashback sequences, but the film will centre on the adults and therefore, lose a lot of the charm that Chapter One had. Rather like the book, I might add, which was at its best and most gripping when dealing with the children and their fears.

Agreed, the sections June 1958 + July 1958 were the best parts , amazing.

1985 was the weakest part of the novel (still great of course, speaking relatively...)

TomSweeney · 11-05-2019 2:19pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

I haven't read the novel yet, I know the rough story though, what do you think of them seemingly giving Pennywise a human origin? Or maybe Pennywise just did that to **** with Bev due to her father's abuse.

Yeah ... of course - PW is messing with her here, there is no human origin with Pennywise, the book explains where It came from in one of the greatest chapters (the smoke hole)

Sad Professor · 11-05-2019 2:23pm

Re: "Big Bill"

In the book Bill was the tallest of the kids, hence the nick name. But I don't recall if that was still true when they were adults. Either way I don't think it matters, especially since I'm pretty sure the actor in the first film was NOT the tallest nor do I recall him ever being referred to as "Big Bill".

The White Wolf · 11-05-2019 2:26pm

Another interesting thing I found about the trailer is at the end, it sounds like Pennywise has a different voice to the first film. It plays in perfectly to the fact this is a demon or alien, with no humanity, coming out of hibernation after 27 years.

SaltSweatSugar · 16-05-2019 10:30pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

I remember for the miniseries, feeling the second part let it down. Hopefully this isn't the same. I actually preferred the first half of the miniseries over the first movie. And looks like this could be going the same path as the first part.

I actually had the DVD of the miniseries for ages before I realised there was a second part to it. :rolleyes:

Have to say I’m really looking forward to seeing this, the first one scared the bejaysus out of me, but I’m still undecided which Pennywise was more frightening, the original or the reboot.

Tazzimus · 17-05-2019 11:16am

Currently reading the book as I realised I never have..

First movie was a bit jumpy, right up to that stupid dancing bit, then it was just funny.
I'm hoping part 2 isn't the same.

Must re-watch the mini series as well

El Duda · 17-05-2019 12:13pm

I hope we get an answer to this age old question...

Basq · 17-05-2019 12:38pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

First movie was a bit jumpy, right up to that stupid dancing bit, then it was just funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317AWNIS8Bs

SaltSweatSugar · 17-05-2019 2:25pm

I’m so doing that dance the next time I’m out and that song comes on

pixelburp · 17-05-2019 3:34pm

El Duda wrote: »

I hope we get an answer to this age old question...

That 1990 film gets forgiven for a lot by dint of Tim Curry's performance, 'cos remove him and it was a pretty woeful, borderline amateur & embarrassing production. Like a lot of King adaptations from that era mind you...

CastorTroy · 19-05-2019 5:49pm

Like I said I think the kids bit was the best part of it. Included Seth Green as Richie. Most memorable part from the adult part is Pennywise saying "B-a-Bi-a-Billy boy"

yourdeadwright · 20-05-2019 1:30pm

Tony EH wrote: »

"Atmosphere" is pretty nebulous though. 'Stranger Things' "captures the atmosphere" of 'It' as well, but has nothing to do with Stephen King's book.

I mean, really, the only thing that truly links the two mediums is Pennywise and even he's nothing like he was in the novel. It's its own thing in the vast majority of ways and I think this chapter will be even more so.

No doubt the kids will be in some flashback sequences, but the film will centre on the adults and therefore, lose a lot of the charm that Chapter One had. Rather like the book, I might add, which was at its best and most gripping when dealing with the children and their fears.

Iv actually heard the kids are hugely involved in this, No idea how but I heard they wanted to use them to keep the atmosphere form the first chapter,

Tony EH · 20-05-2019 6:49pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Iv actually heard the kids are hugely involved in this, No idea how but I heard they wanted to use them to keep the atmosphere form the first chapter,

I don't know how that's going to work. Unless the film is saturated in flashbacks?

Mr E · 18-07-2019 4:23pm

Full Trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPzeqqxqgEU

18-07-2019 11:29pm

What a cast

Tony EH · 19-07-2019 7:22am

Mr E wrote: »

Full Trailer.

Although it has nearly fuck all to do with the original novel, that looks pretty good as a film in its own right.

w/s/p/c/ · 19-07-2019 8:30am

Cannot wait to see this, looks like a lot more horror compared to the comedy in the first one. Agree with the poster above, the cast look great!! Roll on September!

branie2 · 23-07-2019 7:52pm

On my must-see list

DrPhilG · 05-09-2019 8:57pm

What better place to be watching an IT double bill, than Derry!

branie2 · 05-09-2019 11:06pm

I'll have to avoid it, because I found out it has strobe lighting.

DrPhilG · 06-09-2019 12:01am

branie2 wrote: »

I'll have to avoid it, because I found out it has strobe lighting.

It does, just for a short spell near the end but I did find it annoying.

Duff · 06-09-2019 1:20am

Just back from seeing chapter two. Slightly disappointed. Everything seemed over the top cgi and you could see the scares coming a mile off. Dragged out in some parts while others are all over the place. Probably give it a 6/10.

DrPhilG · 06-09-2019 8:20am

Agreed, although I'd rate it a little higher. Definitely not as good as the first but still enjoyable.

I thought the cgi was fine except for

the leper. Looked ropey in the first one too

Nowhere near as bad as the ending in the old Tim Curry version, but I was disappointed with the ending again.

Basically

all you need to defeat a world destroying evil entity that has terrorised your town for centuries, is some harsh language?

Still a good film but a wee bit underwhelmed. I'll watch it again when it's out on bluray/UHD.

Shred · 06-09-2019 8:59am

I loved the first one and I'm looking forward to this. It might have problems/not be as good as the first but I saw the Irish Times (IT eh?) gave a 1 star review :rolleyes:

santana75 · 06-09-2019 10:17am

Shred wrote: »

I loved the first one and I'm looking forward to this. It might have problems/not be as good as the first but I saw the Irish Times (IT eh?) gave a 1 star review :rolleyes:

Id have to agree with the Irish times on this one. I found myself getting very bored. Not even remotely scary, and the scares themselves were telegraphed. But most of all you just dont care about the characters. It definitely drags on way too long. Overall I wouldnt even bother wasting money on this, wait til its on netflix or sky.

El Duda · 06-09-2019 10:25am

Duff wrote: »

Just back from seeing chapter two. Slightly disappointed. Everything seemed over the top cgi and you could see the scares coming a mile off. Dragged out in some parts while others are all over the place. Probably give it a 6/10.

This review could easily be of the first film.

sonic85 · 06-09-2019 10:59am

I'm finding it hard to pin down what I actually thought of this to be honest. I did enjoy it overall but for me it felt like there was something missing. I don't think it had the spark of the first movie. Whether that was down to the characters being older or what I don't know. I enjoyed the humour a lot but I'm wondering was there too much? I was expecting the stakes to be high with a lot of tension and scares but it kept jumping from being serious to quips and one liners which took away all sense of jeopardy for me. Wasn't really a horror movie IMO.

There were a couple of pointless bits in it which added nothing to the story and the ending was very flat and underwhelming.

Reading back what I just wrote it sounds like I hated it but I really didn't. I was sitting in the cinema for 6 hours or so and the time just zipped by. I'll have to watch it again I think

RickBlaine · 06-09-2019 11:16am

The first film was very enjoyable, and Chapter 2 is well cast with some very funny moments, its plot is very messy and far too overlong. I can’t believe they thought a nearly 3 hour runtime was suitable for this movie. By the time of the bloated finale, I couldn’t wait for it to end. It is a shame, a definite drop in quality from the first one.

Tazzimus · 06-09-2019 11:19am

RickBlaine wrote: »

The first film was very enjoyable, and Chapter 2 is well cast with some very funny moments, its plot is very messy and far too overlong. I can’t believe they thought a nearly 3 hour runtime was suitable for this movie. By the time of the bloated finale, I couldn’t wait for it to end. It is a shame, a definite drop in quality from the first one.

In fairness, the book is the same

Duff · 06-09-2019 12:31pm

El Duda wrote: »

This review could easily be of the first film.

Possibly. I was a lot more invested in the first film, anyway.

DrPhilG · 06-09-2019 1:57pm

The only real disappointment was the ending. My first thought was a line from Aliens...

When the marines are told that they can't fire their weapons, Frost replies "what are we supposed to use, harsh language"?

Tammy! · 06-09-2019 4:10pm

santana75 wrote: »

Id have to agree with the Irish times on this one. I found myself getting very bored. Not even remotely scary, and the scares themselves were telegraphed. But most of all you just dont care about the characters. It definitely drags on way too long. Overall I wouldnt even bother wasting money on this, wait til its on netflix or sky.

I haven't seen it yet but that was how I felt about the first one. Looking at the thread, I thought the first trailer of this one looked exciting but wasn't too pushed on the second trailer.

The mini series is dated now but you did care about the characters and with Pennywise it was more of a build up psychologically than flashy jump out at you scary. I'll still watch it though when I get the chance.

It: Chapter Two

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