Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

bayern

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

What happened Frawley the last day before the match? Is he back fit again now?

to be confirmed later today.

Clegg

https://twitter.com/OptaJonny/status/1366439077613027328?s=09

stephen_n

bayern wrote: »

Possible Leinster XV:

1. Peter Dooley
2. Sean Cronin
3. Michael Bent
4. Ross Molony
5. Scott Fardy
6. Josh Murphy
7. JVDF
8. Rhys Ruddock
9. Luke McGrath
10. Ross Byrne
11. Dave Kearney
12. Ciaran Fralwey
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. Cian Kelleher
15. Jimmy O'Brien

Hopefully Cronin can have a better showing than he did on Sunday.

arsebiscuits1

Clegg wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OptaJonny/status/1366439077613027328?s=09

Haven't seen Coombes come near those stats in any game so far he's played....


:pac:

arsebiscuits1

Just totaled the number of players Leinster have used thus far this season.

55 players used - surely our best total or close to it?

Only senior players not to feature are Vakh, Adam Byrne and Conor O'Brien

We've used 8 academy players and 2 sub academy players.

We've used one AIL player on a short term contract.

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Just totaled the number of players Leinster have used thus far this season.

55 players used - surely our best total or close to it?

Only senior players not to feature are Vakh, Adam Byrne and Conor O'Brien

We've used 8 academy players and 2 sub academy players.

We've used one AIL player on a short term contract.

Did you include Parker on loan?

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Did you include Parker on loan?

I did. He's still listed as a senior squad member on the Leinster site

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I did. He's still listed as a senior squad member on the Leinster site

Sites out of date. Fwiw.

theVersatile

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Haven't seen Coombes come near those stats in any game so far he's played....


:pac:

I haven't seen Penny play Champions Cup either so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But let's not start

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Sites out of date. Fwiw.

No doubt there are some discrepancies but for the most part I don't think it's affected my total number.

Their list of senior players seems reasonably up to date bar Parker and I suppose McGrath

Their academy list probably needs updating but the only relevant players for my list of included people would be Hanan and Osborne who I added to my total also

bayern

Three players will require further assessment this week before a final decision will be made on their involvement.

Ciarán Frawley injured his shoulder in the warm-up against Glasgow Warriors and will be further assessed as will Cian Kelleher who received stitches to a facial injury in the first half.

Finally, Harry Byrne was removed for a Head Injury Assessment against Glasgow Warriors and will now follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols this week.

There was no new injury update on the following players who remain unavailable for selection:

Tommy O’Brien (ankle), Adam Byrne (quad), Caelan Doris (concussive symptoms), Dan Leavy (knee), Conor O’Brien (knee), Max Deegan (knee) and Vakh Abdaladze (back).

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/cullen-injury-update-ahead-belfast/

Thrashssacre

What's the chances of Leinster getting a mid week game against the saffers in the rds if the lion's is brought to the UK? Would Leinster be in a position where they could Field a reasonable team in the summer or is it just completely unfair to the players to have them break up their summer break?

bayern

would be ridiculous.

like pretty much all these Saffer plans they have, rugby industry have lost the plot chasing money etc.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Three players will require further assessment this week before a final decision will be made on their involvement.

Ciarán Frawley injured his shoulder in the warm-up against Glasgow Warriors and will be further assessed as will Cian Kelleher who received stitches to a facial injury in the first half.

Finally, Harry Byrne was removed for a Head Injury Assessment against Glasgow Warriors and will now follow the Graduated Return to Play Protocols this week.

There was no new injury update on the following players who remain unavailable for selection:

Tommy O’Brien (ankle), Adam Byrne (quad), Caelan Doris (concussive symptoms), Dan Leavy (knee), Conor O’Brien (knee), Max Deegan (knee) and Vakh Abdaladze (back).

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/cullen-injury-update-ahead-belfast/

The lack of Ross Molony in the injury update suggests he just wasn't picked last weekend. Odd.

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

The lack of Ross Molony in the injury update suggests he just wasn't picked last weekend. Odd.

possibly just wanted to reward Dunne with game time and give Molony a week off.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

possibly just wanted to reward Dunne with game time and give Molony a week off.

In fairness that's a good point. Molony has played the most of any Leinster second row this year

Buer

I'd imagine it's a vote of confidence in a roundabout way. They're giving him a week off with a much higher profile game in Belfast coming the following week.

bayern

Yeah, there's no way he isn't starting at 4, if available.

.ak

I know it never happens, but we could have at some point all available for selection next season in the backrow:

Doris
Deegan
Conan
Leavy
VDF
Connors
Penny
Ruddock

All good enough to play test footie. What's your 1st selection if we're playing a HCup knock out game?

Then you've got the likes of Murphy, Sekora, SOB 3.0 etc

bayern

depends on the opposition and the players form at the time...

But i'd say if they are playing at their peak maybe this..

6. Ruddock
7. Leavy
8. Doris
20. Conan

Clegg

At this stage I think Doris is the only cast iron starter of any back row. After that you can choose whatever 6 and 7 is the best match up to negative the opposition's strengths.

If you're up against a dogged, tough pack then it's probably Ruddock and Leavy in to match their physicality. If it's against a team that likes to throw the ball around then VDF is your openside. If it's a team that relies on generating quick ball then pick Leavy and Connors. One to chop them down quickly and the other to force a turnover. It's a great position to be in provided they all stay fit.

salmocab

I’d really like to see a Leavy, Doris and Connors backrow.

arsebiscuits1

.ak wrote: »

I know it never happens, but we could have at some point all available for selection next season in the backrow:

Doris
Deegan
Conan
Leavy
VDF
Connors
Penny
Ruddock

All good enough to play test footie. What's your 1st selection if we're playing a HCup knock out game?

Then you've got the likes of Murphy, Sekora, SOB 3.0 etc

Horses for courses is a phrase I don't really like as I think it's just a bit of a cliche.

But when you have the luxury of talent that Leinster do assuming everyone fit and available, there would definitely be an element of selecting one player over another based on what they bring that can mitigate opposition strengths

Former Former Former

bayern wrote: »

possibly just wanted to reward Dunne with game time and give Molony a week off.

Hmmm, you refused to consider this last week and you were a bit snippy about it too.

Former Former Former wrote: »

Was training earlier in the week, could just be giving the young guy a run.

bayern wrote: »

wouldnt be the first time a player trained early in the week and picked up a knock during the week, that was unannounced.

Swiftly coming to the conclusion that you're a bit of a spoofer bayern.

.ak

bayern wrote: »

Possible Leinster XV:

1. Peter Dooley
2. Sean Cronin
3. Michael Bent
4. Ross Molony
5. Scott Fardy
6. Josh Murphy
7. JVDF
8. Rhys Ruddock
9. Luke McGrath
10. Ross Byrne
11. Dave Kearney
12. Ciaran Fralwey
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. Cian Kelleher
15. Jimmy O'Brien

For me, Penny stays in the XV. He's been great since his return, and I think the management will want to capitalise on that momentum. I don't think they'll care what number is on his jersey, having said that his play off the base was very impressive on Sunday.

1. Peter Dooley
2. Sean Cronin
3. Michael Bent
4. Devin Toner
5. Scott Fardy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. JVDF
8. Penny
9. Luke McGrath
10. Harry/Ross Byrne
11. Dave Kearney
12. Ciaran Frawley
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. Cian Kelleher
15. Jimmy O'Brien

16. Dan Sheehan
17. Ed Byrne
18. ???
19. Ross Moloney
20. Murphy
21. Rowan Osborne
22. David Hawkshaw
23. Jamie Osborne

bayern

Former Former Former wrote: »

Hmmm, you refused to consider this last week and you were a bit snippy about it too.



Swiftly coming to the conclusion that you're a bit of a spoofer bayern.

I don't see me refusing anything, just putting out a possible scenario as to why Molony would be absent.

come to whatever conclusion you wish.

Richie_Rich89

bayern wrote: »

depends on the opposition and the players form at the time...

But i'd say if they are playing at their peak maybe this..

6. Ruddock
7. Leavy
8. Doris
20. Conan

For me I think it would be:

6. Murphy
7. Leavy/Connors
8. Doris

20. Deegan

bayern

18 year old loosehead prop Jack Boyle trained with Leinster seniors today.

Richie_Rich89

Against Ulster I think I would go with:

1. Peter Dooley
2. Dan Sheehan
3. Michael Bent
4. Jack Dunne
5. Ross Molony/Devin Toner
6. Josh Murphy
7. Scott Penny
8. Rhys Ruddock
9. Luke McGrath
10. Ross Byrne
11. Jamie Osborne
12. David Hawkshaw
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. David Kearney
15. Jimmy O'Brien

16. James Tracy
17. Edward Byrne
18. Thomas Clarkson
19. Devin Toner/Alexis Soroka
20. Josh van der Flier
21. Rowan Osborne
22. Tim Corkery
23. Max O'Reilly

arsebiscuits1

.ak wrote: »

For me, Penny stays in the XV. He's been great since his return, and I think the management will want to capitalise on that momentum. I don't think they'll care what number is on his jersey, having said that his play off the base was very impressive on Sunday.

He undoubtedly earned it based on last week.

I just think it's tough to overlook Ruddock back at 8 and I don't think Penny offers what he could at 8 as a 6. Possibility to move VDF there to keep Penny at 7 but I can't see it happening.

Ulster will be able to call on a serious back row. And there is a possibility of Coetzee playing still

Also. Scotts shift on Sunday was a few steps above monumental. A 6 day turnaround is a big ask after a performance like that. 20-30 minutes off the bench might be just the ticket for him