Tucson or Qashqai?

chooey

Hi, I currently have an 06 Tucson which I'm trading in. There are two that I'm looking at, both second hand and I can't decide which to go for.

One is a 6 year old Qashqai +2, 7 seater, leather seats, sat nav and all the works. Looks to be a very high spec model, just under 60k miles on it. 1.6l diesel

The other is a 5 year old Tucson, as high spec as the Tucsons seem to go but not as high spec as the Qashqai. It has a bit less milage on it-think it's roughly 40k miles on it. It's a couple of grand more expensive than the Qashqai also. 1.7l diesel

I'm not sure which to go for. I love the spec of the Qashqai but am I better off going for a slighly newer Tucson with less miles on it? It's mainly for driving to and from work with the occasional long journey and taking it on holidays once a year.

Thanks so much for your help, I don't upgrade my car very often so want to pick the right one.

bazz26

Do you need the extra 2 seats of the Qashqai? Also being a Qashqai+2 then it's the original model Qashqai which was launched back in 2007. If you don't need the extra two seats (they are for children anyway) then you should look to the newer model from 2014 onwards.

Kia Sportage is worth mentioning also as it's the sister car of the Tucson and mechanically they are identical but feels a bit more upmarket on the inside.

chooey

Thanks so much for your reply. I was thinking of getting a car with the extra 2 seats as we're hoping to have another baby in the next year or so and our large dog comes everywhere with me including work and she hates getting into the boot so I thought it would be handy to have the extra 2 seats for her. At the moment I have my toddler on one side and the dogs seatbelt on the other side of the back seat. I'm sure I could train her to get into the boot though. I did like the look of the new Tucson yesterday but like my own one they just feel pretty basic inside but I didn't realise that about the Kia. I'll have a look. Thanks

bazz26

The problem is that those 2 seats eat into the boot space when they are in use so you won't have any space for a buggy or large dog if you have a child in them. You would need a bigger proper 7 seater if that's the case.

chooey

True. I was looking at the Volvo xc90s but they're just out of my budget unfortunately. If I'm forgetting about the 7 seats is the Tucson any better than the qashqai or pretty similar?

colm_mcm

The Tucson is bigger than the normal Qashqai. The +2 is longer but still a lower narrower car, and essentially a 2007 model, so feels a lot older than a current model Tucson.

bazz26

The OP says that the Tucson is 5 years old but the new model Tucson only came out in 2016. The previous model would have been called the ix35 which I am guessing is really what the OP is talking about.

cocoman

I think the Qashqai +2 came out in 2008 and got a facelift in 2010. We have a 2012 one which is nice. Extra 2 seats are handy even though we rarely use them. Bigger boot than a normal qashqai. Ours is 1.5 diesel. The one you mentioned is a 1.6 diesel which I understand to be a better engine. Think the 1.6 is chain driven rather than belt which saves a few quid on replacement of timing belt.
Both the cars mentioned have fairly low miles for diesels. If you only use them for mainly slow moving city traffic the egr can get blocked. They need a good run at higher speeds to clear every so often.
I don't know anything about the Hyundai. Honest John website is good for reviews.

Shefwedfan

The boot is bigger in the Qashqai +2 than the Tucson. Even if you don't have a child you will be thankful of the extra boot space.

If you have one, then just put up one seat and you still have a sizeable boot. The person in that back seat just need to sit beside bags etc but can be done for the odd trip.

Picking up friends etc. those seats will be handy

The Sportage was mentioned above but this is the cheaper version of the Tucson/iX35. It would be a big step down.

To be honest with the amount of Crossovers on the road the Qashqai+2 will sell a lot quicker and hold value better as people are always looking for 7 seaters. The market is flooded with standard 5 seat Crossovers.

As the Qashqai is such a high spec it would also sell, kids and leather seats are great. Personally I would go for Qashqai. As leather seats it will be import I would guess so get all the details checked out on it.

AMKC

The Sportage is a great car. I agree with bazz. They are more upmarket than the Hyundai cousins. Try and get a 2015 one as they came fully loaded with all the kit you will need as it was the last year for that model before the new one came out. The dash was better quality that year too with lots of soft touch plastics where you want them unlike the IX35 and basic Tucsons which just have hard plastic on the dash.

Never liked the look of the Qashqai+2 it myself just never seemed right looked like an afterthought. If you want a good 7 seater look at a Ford S-Max or a Galaxy.

Shefwedfan

AMKC wrote: »

The Sportage is a great car. I agree with bazz. They are more upmarket than the Hyundai cousins. Try and get a 2015 one as they came fully loaded with all the kit you will need as it was the last year for that model before the new one came out. The dash was better quality that year too with lots of soft touch plastics where you want them unlike the IX35 and basic Tucsons which just have hard plastic on the dash.

Never liked the look of the Qashqai+2 it myself just never seemed right looked like an afterthought. If you want a good 7 seater look at a Ford S-Max or a Galaxy.

This is similar conversation to people who buy Skoda's and then try to tell everyone they are better to the VW

Kia went bust, Hyundai invested to keep them afloat. Kia is used as the budget brand for Hyundai.

The S-MAX and Galaxy are in a different class of car altogether.

pablo128

Shefwedfan wrote: »

This is similar conversation to people who buy Skoda's and then try to tell everyone they are better to the VW

Kia went bust, Hyundai invested to keep them afloat. Kia is used as the budget brand for Hyundai.

The S-MAX and Galaxy are in a different class of car altogether.

Kia and Hyundai are the one company now. Same running gear in both of them.

bazz26

Kia started off as a budget brand under Hyundai but they are far from it these days. Go and actually sit in a same vintage Sportage and ix35 the OP is talking about, and see which one feels more budget brand than the other. Sit in any brand new Kia model these days and I'd say they have the edge on Hyundai when it comes to quality of materials used especially the interior. I'd also recommend go sit and drive a Stinger and then come back and say Kia are a budget brand.

Shefwedfan

bazz26 wrote: »

Kia started off as a budget brand under Hyundai but they are far from it these days. Go and actually sit in a same vintage Sportage and ix35 the OP is talking about, and see which one feels more budget brand than the other. Sit in any brand new Kia model these days and I'd say they have the edge on Hyundai when it comes to quality of materials used especially the interior. I'd also recommend go sit and drive a Stinger and then come back and say Kia are a budget brand.

Funny, everyone says the same about Skoda



The Stinger starts at 50k or so. I would hope it doesn't feel budget


A very similar thread about a 2014 Sportage was on here, majority of the feedback is the gear box in both the Kia and Hyundai are bad and will cause issues....not my words. You can search for it

pablo128

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Funny, everyone says the same about Skoda



The Stinger starts at 50k or so. I would hope it doesn't feel budget


A very similar thread about a 2014 Sportage was on here, majority of the feedback is the gear box in both the Kia and Hyundai are bad and will cause issues....not my words. You can search for it

I know full well about the gearbox/clutch issue - and it's an issue with both brands as they use the same parts in both brands.

What is your point?

Shefwedfan

pablo128 wrote: »

I know full well about the gearbox/clutch issue - and it's an issue with both brands as they use the same parts in both brands.

What is your point?

Is this your thread???


The OP asked for advice on which car. Nobody has yet pointed out the Tucson had a dodgy gear box


Pointless giving advice to buy a Sportage when it has the exact same dodgy gearbox.


You not think that might be relevant to the OP question?

pablo128

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Is this your thread???


The OP asked for advice on which car. Nobody has yet pointed out the Tucson had a dodgy gear box


Pointless giving advice to buy a Sportage when it has the exact same dodgy gearbox.


You not think that might be relevant to the OP question?

Now hang on. You are the one that said Kia were inferior to Hyundai. You're moving the goalposts now.

Shefwedfan

pablo128 wrote: »

Now hang on. You are the one that said Kia were inferior to Hyundai. You're moving the goalposts now.

If you want to start a thread about the merits of Kia v Hyundai fire ahead, let me know and I will join.



I think the person that started the thread might find it interesting to know the gear box is a ticking time bomb in the Tucson/ix35. Again I will say not my words. It is another thread on here

bazz26

So your the one who dragged the thread off topic with the talk about Kia being a budget brand of Hyundai when a Sportage was suggested as an alternative to the ix35. Now that you have been challenged on that point you have tried to deflect away by actually claiming its off topic and not what the OP asked about.

Anyway this is just turning into another straw man argument so as they say on dragon's den - "I won't be investing so I'm out."

Shefwedfan

bazz26 wrote: »

So your the one who dragged the thread off topic with the talk about Kia being a budget brand of Hyundai when a Sportage was suggested as an alternative to the ix35. Now that you have been challenged on that point you have tried to deflect away by actually claiming its off topic and not what the OP asked about.

Anyway this is just turning into another straw man argument so as they say on dragon's den - "I won't be investing so I'm out."

I think you mentioned the Sportage. Not me. I just gave the advice that another thread was started and said the Sportage has a dodgy gearbox so the Tuscon/ix35 will have the same dodgy gearbox.


You have a problem with that advice?


Are you going to send childish aggresive PM's like that other person because someone didnt agree with you?

chooey

Thanks so much for all your replies, including the Kia/Hyundai ones. I was out test driving them all today. The qashqai is beautiful inside with it's leather seats and panoramic roof, drove fine. I'm not convinced with the extra two seats in the back mainly due to how difficult it is to get into them. Just wondering would I just keep the seats down and she'd have a large boot to lie in.
I also test drove a 2016 Tucson-it was beautiful and drove so nicely. It had a lot of extras in it including sat-nav which looked great but not sure how much work they are to maintain. Just thinking to myself if I was going to keep the seats of the qashqai down anyway am I better off getting something like a Tucson but will have to weigh things up.
I haven't found many Kia's around but will have a look and see can I get out and test drive some tomorrow after work.

pablo128

I think the top model Sportage is called the Platinum. It has leather and all the toys.

Shefwedfan

chooey wrote: »

Thanks so much for all your replies, including the Kia/Hyundai ones. I was out test driving them all today. The qashqai is beautiful inside with it's leather seats and panoramic roof, drove fine. I'm not convinced with the extra two seats in the back mainly due to how difficult it is to get into them. Just wondering would I just keep the seats down and she'd have a large boot to lie in.
I also test drove a 2016 Tucson-it was beautiful and drove so nicely. It had a lot of extras in it including sat-nav which looked great but not sure how much work they are to maintain. Just thinking to myself if I was going to keep the seats of the qashqai down anyway am I better off getting something like a Tucson but will have to weigh things up.
I haven't found many Kia's around but will have a look and see can I get out and test drive some tomorrow after work.

It depends on what you want the boot for, the extra space can be very useful. Loads of people buy the Qashqai+2 and never use the back seats

colm_mcm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Kia is used as the budget brand for Hyundai.

That’s not correct.

I30 is cheaper than Ceed, i40 is cheaper than Optima, Santa Fe is cheaper than Sorento, Tucson is cheaper than Sportage.

Kia and Hyundai directly compete with each other.

ted1

bazz26 wrote: »

The problem is that those 2 seats eat into the boot space when they are in use so you won't have any space for a buggy or large dog if you have a child in them. You would need a bigger proper 7 seater if that's the case.

You also can’t fit three kids seats in the middle row. Several of my friends got rid of there’s fir that reason

chooey

The newer Sportage is lovely, from having a look at it there. I'll drive out and have a look at it tomorrow.

pippip

ted1 wrote: »

You also can’t fit three kids seats in the middle row. Several of my friends got rid of there’s fir that reason

To be fair there aren't many cars that do fit three across.

ted1

pippip wrote: »

To be fair there aren't many cars that do fit three across.

Scenic, C4, 5008 and others do.

To be fair selling a 7 seater as a car that can take 5 kids and meet legal requirements for kids seats is dishonest.

pippip

ted1 wrote: »

Scenic, C4, 5008 and others do.

To be fair selling a 7 seater as a car that can take 5 kids and meet legal requirements for kids seats is dishonest.

That's the thing, they sell it as a quashai +2

Shefwedfan

ted1 wrote: »

Scenic, C4, 5008 and others do.

To be fair selling a 7 seater as a car that can take 5 kids and meet legal requirements for kids seats is dishonest.

Those are really MPV....

Unless you bring in the new 5008 which is the only crossover/suv with 3 seats but it will be 30k

ted1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Those are really MPV....

Unless you bring in the new 5008 which is the only crossover/suv with 3 seats but it will be 30k

Yep. SUVs suffer from big wheel arches which reduce the internal space available.

I don’t see any advantage of a SUV over a MPV.

Shefwedfan

ted1 wrote: »

Yep. SUVs suffer from big wheel arches which reduce the internal space available.

I don’t see any advantage of a SUV over a MPV.

I have a Galaxy, it looks like a transit with windows :P


That's the advantage a SUV has

snor

I don’t see any advantage of a SUV over a MPV.[/quote]


SUVs look the part - any of the MPVs mentioned above are just plain ugly cars in my opinion. I like something that looks good as well as being functional.

I had a Qashqui +2 OP and loved it.

ted1

snor wrote: »

I don’t see any advantage of a SUV over a MPV.

SUVs look the part - any of the MPVs mentioned above are just plain ugly cars in my opinion. I like something that looks good as well as being functional.

I had a Qashqui +2 OP and loved it.[/quote]
But generally 7 seater SUVs aren’t functional.

pablo128

My dad had a 7 seater Toyota for 16 years. He left the rearmost seats out in the shed and only put them in when needed. They were designed to be removed though. Plenty of boot space with them out.

colm_mcm

The market has gone for folding rather than removable seats now.

The Avensis Verso was great in that you could remove the middle row centre seat them move the outer seats in towards each other a bit so you’d have loads of elbow room in the middle row for two, or just remove the seat to allow easy access to the back row.
Having the spare wheel under the passenger side front footwell meant the boot went all the way to the bottom of the bumper.

Sadly the safety - particularly side impact was very poor on the Avensis Verso.

Hurrache

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Those are really MPV....

Unless you bring in the new 5008 which is the only crossover/suv with 3 seats but it will be 30k

Peugeot Rifter and Opel Combo Life now fit the bill. The latter is more van like but the Rifter appeals to me, it's less van like.

Marcusm

colm_mcm wrote: »

The market has gone for folding rather than removable seats now.

The Avensis Verso was great in that you could remove the middle row centre seat them move the outer seats in towards each other a bit so you’d have loads of elbow room in the middle row for two, or just remove the seat to allow easy access to the back row.
Having the spare wheel under the passenger side front footwell meant the boot went all the way to the bottom of the bumper.

Sadly the safety - particularly side impact was very poor on the Avensis Verso.

The best for folding seats was the Grand Voyager with “stow n go”. Unfortunately that was the only good thing! 2.8 L inefficient diesel was never going to work here.

Apache72

Are the seats in the back of the Hyundai Tucson very low? Only tried the Comfort model but kids found it hard to see out the back windows with the windows being high too.

AMKC

Marcusm wrote: »

The best for folding seats was the Grand Voyager with “stow n go”. Unfortunately that was the only good thing! 2.8 L inefficient diesel was never going to work here.

They were not a very safe car either, Would fold up like a loaf of bread in a crash.