Down with Upskirting: The End of Old School Perversions?

EmmetSpiceland

Seeing how this upskirting is soon to be outlawed I was wondering if this was yet another nail in the coffin for real world perverts?

Recently there was a thread about the public masturbator but, on the whole, people seemed dismissive of it. I, personally, would have that as a higher offence, along with the bus groper.

The upskirting would be a lower offence but higher than the, what I’ve heard described as, victimless crimes such as saddle sniffing or pinching underwear off of clothes lines. You’d think unwashed ones would be a more attractive option but I guess they’d be hard to procure.

What do you think of such laws? Could they even cover the old trick of giving the tips of your shoes a good polish, or even attaching mirrors, so you can get a look up a lady’s skirt? Although without a record of the event I doubt it could be prosecuted, wouldn’t even be covered by GDPR.

I figured asking on here would be a good place to find out what people think as a number of users on here seem to be the type who’d engage in such sweaty nonsense. Fat neckbeards sitting at home all day with the curtains drawn, watching hours of voyeuristic porno clips, “sharking” videos and hacked webcams.

I, myself, don’t see how anyone could get their kicks from it. I’d be far more interested in what’s beyond the knickers. I think a law like this can only be seen as a good thing but maybe a stay in a mental health facility might better suit the “perp” as opposed to a stretch in prison.

JohnnyFlash

I think ‘real world’ perverts are a dying breed to be honest, Emmet. Saddle sniffing is widely considered a victimless crime, and right at the bottom of the pervert checklist. But that started to die out when people started driving instead of cycling to mass. A lad would often leave mass after communion and head outside for a good sniff of the saddle of the bicycle of the bird he fancied. Just doesn’t happen anymore.

Outlaw Pete

"I only had a mirror on my foot so I could check for car bombs, your honour".

Woke Hogan

“Pinching” underwear from clotheslines is theft.

Rave.ef

Sure what about the lad in the shoe shop sniffing the shoes. Dirty fekrs always find a way to get off victimless or not.

EmmetSpiceland

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I think ‘real world’ perverts are a dying breed to be honest, Emmet. Saddle sniffing is widely considered a victimless crime, and right at the bottom of the pervert checklist. But that started to die out when people started driving instead of cycling to mass. A lad would often leave mass after communion and head outside for a good sniff of the saddle of the bicycle of the bird he fancied. Just doesn’t happen anymore.

Yeah, the “Dublin Bike Scheme” certainly put an end to that sort of carry on in the Capital. You couldn’t be sure who’d been on it last or that the scent hadn’t be diluted by some other sweaty arse.

Along with the “park flasher” it really is an odious act.

Outlaw Pete

Wonder will the new law also apply to upkilting. To tackle the likes of this:

https://people.com/celebrity/male-staff-at-scottish-pub-abandon-kilts-due-to-aggressive-female-customers/

JohnnyFlash

Woke Hogan wrote: »

“Pinching” underwear from clotheslines is theft.

There was a lad in our town years ago called Mickey ‘Lugs’ McMahon. He was caught by the cops with 38 pairs of stolen knickers that he robbed from a clothesline in the convent boarding school on the outskirts of town. Didn’t get jail time, but very much a pariah around town afterwards.

Day Lewin

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I, myself, don’t see how anyone could get their kicks from it. I’d be far more interested in what’s beyond the knickers.

For someone who doesn't see any thrill in it, you seem to have a comprehensive knowledge of the subject.

Deebles McBeebles

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Along with the “park flasher” it really is an odious act.

The modern-day park flasher flashes a syringe and "asks" you for a donation to his drug habit.

Faugheen

There's something sneaky about upskirting that puts it up there with public masturbation and groping imo.

I'm not trying to downplay the latter two, not by any stretch, but the potential around upskirting is horrendous and the victim in most cases has no way of knowing about or stopping it.

Deebles McBeebles

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

There was a lad in our town years ago called Mickey ‘Lugs’ McMahon. He was caught by the cops with 38 pairs of stolen knickers that he robbed from a clothesline in the convent boarding school on the outskirts of town. Didn’t get jail time, but very much a pariah around town afterwards.

Presumably he's now known as Mickey 'Tugs' McMahon?

EmmetSpiceland

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Wonder will the new law also apply to upkilting. To tackle the likes of this:

https://people.com/celebrity/male-staff-at-scottish-pub-abandon-kilts-due-to-aggressive-female-customers/

What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander.

I should point out that “down blousing” will also be included as a crime, although I don’t believe it will apply to male victims.

JohnnyFlash

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Presumably he's now known as Mickey 'Tugs' McMahon?

He’s long dead. Rumour has it he was found by a neighbour with a cucumber shoved up his ass and Busty Grannies 7 playing on the VCR.

Deebles McBeebles

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

He’s long dead. Rumour has it he was found by a neighbour with a cucumber shoved up his ass and Busty Grannies 7 playing on the VCR.

What eclectic taste in women he had. From boarding school girls to busty grannies.

RIP.

EmmetSpiceland

Day Lewin wrote: »

For someone who doesn't see any thrill in it, you seem to have a comprehensive knowledge of the subject.

Bordering on the scurrilous, DL. I have never engaged in any upskirting, downblousing or sharking (neither Japanese nor European).

You can be sure any skirt I’ve been up, or blouse I’ve been down, has all be consensually. I don’t get off on “fringe” or “niche” perversions.

mad muffin

The fact that revenge porn and up skirting is not outlawed in Ireland still… Mind boggling.

topper75

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

He’s long dead. Rumour has it he was found by a neighbour with a cucumber shoved up his ass and Busty Grannies 7 playing on the VCR.

As our priest often reminds "...we know neither the day, nor the hour".

Utter Consternation

The internet age has changed the profile of perverts. The days of flashers, clothesline raiders and lad looking in windows seems to be numbered and is instead replaced by upskirters and pin hole cameras in jacks.

The only constant is that the parties involved are still sick cnuts.

greenspurs

da fuq is "Sharking" ?!?!???

Your Face

Ive no problem with laws combatting these weird sadsacks and hope they are enforced but mental health issues, addictions, bad upbringing, didn't have an Xbox will always trump the greater good.

Berties_Horse

Berties_Horse wrote: »

High quality thread.

It's the nostalgic tone that draws me in.

Also, somebody needs to tell me what sharking videos are because I'm afraid to google it. I'm assuming it's not National Geographic stuff.

howamidifferent

greenspurs wrote: »

da fuq is "Sharking" ?!?!???

Not googling that!!!

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

It's running up a woman in public, pulling her top to expose her breasts and filming it.

Swear to god, I know that from 30 Rock.

Simone Late Self-service

Simone Late Self-service wrote: »

It's running up a woman in public, pulling her top to expose her breasts and filming it.

Swear to god, I know that from 30 Rock.

Ah right. Sexual assault, so!

I'm a little disappointed that it's nothing to do with sharks.

Deebles McBeebles

Simone Late Self-service wrote: »

It's running up a woman in public, pulling her top to expose her breasts and filming it.

Swear to god, I know that from 30 Rock.

In that case I was once shown a sharking video on the train. By a stranger and without requesting it.

Utter Consternation

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

In that case I was once shown a sharking video on the train. By a stranger and without requesting it.

Train and bus stations are still popular hang out for your garden variety pervert. It is the one constant in this fast changing world.

Deebles McBeebles

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

In that case I was once shown a sharking video on the train. By a stranger and without requesting it.

Maybe they thought you looked like a fellow pervert :eek:

EmmetSpiceland

Simone Late Self-service wrote: »

It's running up a woman in public, pulling her top to expose her breasts and filming it.

Swear to god, I know that from 30 Rock.

That’s the “Japanese” version, yes.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

That’s the “Japanese” version, yes.

What an odd use of quotation marks!

Day Lewin

Simone Late Self-service wrote: »

It's running up a woman in public, pulling her top to expose her breasts and filming it.

Swear to god, I know that from 30 Rock.

Cripes. *blanches*
I thought I was pretty well informed but I'd never even heard of that.
What an absolutely horrible thing to do.

corner of hells

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Train and bus stations are still popular hang out for your garden variety pervert. It is the one constant in this fast changing world.

Would the garden variety not be more common in hedges and bushes ?

Deebles McBeebles

Candie wrote: »

Maybe they thought you looked like a fellow pervert :eek:

Yeah, I got rid of the trenchcoat and crotchless trousers the next day

Deebles McBeebles

corner of hells wrote: »

Would the garden variety not be more common in hedges and bushes ?

Never seen a perv in one but I've seen a few saucy mags stashed in hedges.

Grayson

corner of hells wrote: »

Would the garden variety not be more common in hedges and bushes ?

Haha you said bushes.

Snickers Man

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Yeah, the “Dublin Bike Scheme” certainly put an end to that sort of carry on in the Capital. You couldn’t be sure who’d been on it last or that the scent hadn’t be diluted by some other sweaty arse.

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In future my last action before returning a Dublin Bike to the stand will be to fart thunderously on the saddle. Just in case

Deebles McBeebles

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

That’s the “Japanese” version, yes.

Whats the other version? Asking for a friend....

Utter Consternation

corner of hells wrote: »

Would the garden variety not be more common in hedges and bushes ?

If i referred to them as 'vanilla' perverts, should i have situated them whacking off in a large tub of ice cream.

Fcuks sakes. No pleasing some people.

corner of hells

Utter Consternation wrote: »

If i referred to them as 'vanilla' perverts, should i have situated them whacking off in a large tub of ice cream.

Fcuks sakes. No pleasing some people.

Maybe they should be called public transport perverts .

Utter Consternation

corner of hells wrote: »

Maybe they should be called public transport perverts .

Bus ****.

corner of hells

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Bus ****.

I see where you're cumming from.

JohnnyFlash

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Bus ****.

There’s a fetish out there where some people are sexually attracted to buses and cars. Not those fûcking idiots wearing Subaru or Ferrari jackets, but lads who get a stiffy when they see a new or attractive model of car. One guy tried to ‘make love’ to a car and badly burned his flute on the exhaust pipe.

EmmetSpiceland

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Whats the other version? Asking for a friend....

“European” sharking.

EmmetSpiceland

Simone Late Self-service wrote: »

What an odd use of quotation marks!

I believe the names were created by Americans, while both types of sharking are popular in Japan I don’t know if the acts originated there.

Someone tell me how European sharking differs.

I hope it involves sharks.

RollieFingers

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

There’s a fetish out there where some people are sexually attracted to buses and cars. Not those fûcking idiots wearing Subaru or Ferrari jackets, but lads who get a stiffy when they see a new or attractive model of car. One guy tried to ‘make love’ to a car and badly burned his flute on the exhaust pipe.

Goes beyond just cars now John, this woman loves a rollercoaster, and I believe there's a lady married to the Eiffel Tower too. Wouldn't be my cup of tea but whatever you're into I guess.

corner of hells

Candie wrote: »

Someone tell me how European sharking differs.

I hope it involves sharks.

I have a feeling it doesn't involve sharks.

JohnnyFlash

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I believe the names were created by Americans, while both types of sharking are popular in Japan I don’t know if the acts originated there.

Is sharking anyways related to figging?

For Forks Sake

Candie wrote: »

Someone tell me how European sharking differs.

I hope it involves sharks.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sharking

corner of hells

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

There’s a fetish out there where some people are sexually attracted to buses and cars. Not those fûcking idiots wearing Subaru or Ferrari jackets, but lads who get a stiffy when they see a new or attractive model of car. One guy tried to ‘make love’ to a car and badly burned his flute on the exhaust pipe.

Did he go to his GP or his mechanic over his burned flute ?

Deebles McBeebles

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

“European” sharking.

Yeah but whats the difference between the one that was described and the European version?