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Shameless RTE News Propaganda...

  • 30-04-2019 7:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭


    Closure was brought to the Maurice McCabe Vs Irish State today when the plaintiff was awarded his damages.

    This landmark trial vindicated McCabe and his accusations of deep corruption problems within our police force and within state agencies like Tusla.

    How much time did RTE Six One New give it?...about 15 seconds.

    Utterly shameless RTE...This would make a propaganda chief in North Korea or China blush.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Just checked the following.

    RTE - On website
    Newstalk - On website
    Irish independent - Not on website
    Journal.ie - Not on website
    Irish Times - Not on website

    Think you're getting outraged over nothing really.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Op, does your tinfoil hat come in different colours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    RTE is a propaganda station...just look at their coverage of the American attempts to destroy Huawei.

    RTE just states the American claims but omits to inform the public that there is no evidence of any kind to support those claims.

    So much for their "fair and balanced reporting" :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭PinotNero


    The Maurice McCabe story has been in the media spotlight for years.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Op, does your tinfoil hat come in different colours?

    Oh come on, everybody knows that tinfoil hats amplify the radiowaves. :)


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Oh come on, everybody knows that tinfoil hats amplify the radiowaves. :)

    Shhhh, don't tell the op that!
    RTE need a better signal to control their mind


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    jetsonx wrote: »
    Closure was brought to the Maurice McCabe Vs Irish State today when the plaintiff was awarded his damages.

    This landmark trial vindicated McCabe and his accusations of deep corruption problems within our police force and within state agencies like Tusla.

    How much time did RTE Six One New give it?...about 15 seconds.

    Utterly shameless RTE...This would make a propaganda chief in North Korea or China blush.

    It really wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Rte did a massive two part series about McCabe less than a year ago. Stop trying to sensationalise


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 44 hugedinosaur


    jetsonx wrote: »
    .....
    How much time did RTE Six One New give it?...about 15 seconds.
    ......


    RTE Radio 1 had a long and detailed report about it anyway.
    I heard it on the car radio earlier this evening.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    archer22 wrote: »
    RTE is a propaganda station...just look at their coverage of the American attempts to destroy Huawei.

    RTE just states the American claims but omits to inform the public that there is no evidence of any kind to support those claims.

    So much for their "fair and balanced reporting" :rolleyes:

    My reading is it is more so about China than Huawei. And clearly states that these are statements from the United states.

    "A significant cause for concern are a number of Chinese laws that compel their companies to cooperate with intelligence and security services without independent judicial controls," he said

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0429/1046338-5g-us-press-briefing/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,864 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I heard about it today on RTE news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Op, does your tinfoil hat come in different colours?


    Is it just a conspiracy theory that no Garda of any rank was ever charged under either the Garda Disciplinary Code or under the Criminal Law for any of the malpractice revealed by whistle blower McCabe or charged for the various attempts to frame, intimidate and discredit McCabe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    People are sick to death hearing about Maurice McCabe at this stage. RTE being the caring sensitive bunch they are, realise that and limit their coverage of it, thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Your one on Primetime about the Eurovision tonight was firing off the auld loaded propaganda soundbites again ..such as "Russia supporting the Assad regime" etc blah blah blah

    How about simply stating, Russia helping the Syrian legitimate government fight terrorism, which is more factually correct.

    After all RTE will never accuse America of supporting the Israeli or Saudi regimes.

    RTE is the Irish version of FOX NEWS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    My reading is it is more so about China than Huawei. And clearly states that these are statements from the United states.

    "A significant cause for concern are a number of Chinese laws that compel their companies to cooperate with intelligence and security services without independent judicial controls," he said

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0429/1046338-5g-us-press-briefing/

    America is waging a vendetta against Huawei...including getting their lapdog Canada to arrest the Huawei CEO on bullsh1t charges.

    The reasons they are going after Huawei is because Huawei is out competing American tech companies and because the NSA can't create backdoors on Huawei products.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    archer22 wrote: »
    America is waging a vendetta against Huawei...including getting their lapdog Canada to arrest the Huawei CEO on bullsh1t charges.

    The reasons they are going after Huawei is because Huawei is out competing American tech companies and because the NSA can't create backdoors on Huawei products.

    I think you should dig a little deeper on this subject....Huawei a tad bit dodgy

    Oh yeah I didn’t get that from rte, us or nsa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I think you should dig a little deeper on this subject....Huawei a tad bit dodgy

    Oh yeah I didn’t get that from rte, us or nsa

    You didn't get what?...you haven't told us anything have you :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    The ethos of rte had Drastically changed in the last 20 years they are just a government mouthpiece.
    They really let the people down during the bank bail out.
    They were complicit in the selling of a nation down the river


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    archer22 wrote: »
    You didn't get what?...you haven't told us anything have you :rolleyes:

    Neither have you....as I said maybe research it and then post

    Your information so far is extremely flawed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    archer22 wrote: »

    RTE is the Irish version of FOX NEWS.

    That you Gemma?

    I think you're all giving RTÉ far too much credit for their influence. Do you think if folk were hanging on their every word that the advertising revenues would be falling through the floor?

    I doubt the first instinct of anyone under 25 would be to walk in to an empty room and stick on an RTE news or current affairs programme on TV or radio.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    RTE is just a cultural Marxist mouthpiece spreading the most politically correct thrash it can imagine. Should be completely cut off from the state, scrap the licence fee and let them sink or swim privately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Neither have you....as I said maybe research it and then post

    Your information so far is extremely flawed

    Are you trolling?

    And if you have done so much "researching" you will know that Belgium last week said there were no issues with Huawei...Germany pretty much stated the same a few weeks previous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    That you Gemma?

    I think you're all giving RTÉ far too much credit for their influence. Do you think if folk were hanging on their every word that the advertising revenues would be falling through the floor?

    I doubt the first instinct of anyone under 25 would be to walk in to an empty room and stick on an RTE news or current affairs programme on TV or radio.

    That you Hilary?
    You would be surprised how many people only get their news from RTE..especially older generation

    Majority of people in this country are over "25" have you not noticed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    archer22 wrote: »
    That you Hilary?
    You would be surprised how many people only get their news from RTE..especially older generation

    Hillary.

    No I wouldn't, but thats not what I said. Older people are not the agents of change. They may vote in higher numbers, but as we've seen in recent years the outcomes of polls in Ireland are more progressive. Call it leftie loony marxism or whatever you like, but those majorities have been big, so what I'm saying is RTÉ reflects where society is rather than the other way around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    archer22 wrote: »
    Are you trolling?

    And if you have done so much "researching" you will know that Belgium last week said there were no issues with Huawei...Germany pretty much stated the same a few weeks previous

    Belgium said they haven’t finished looking...nothing so far
    Germany has set tougher criteria to use in the country out of the blue but never mentioned a specific company....said it would be for everyone....
    UK slated them for security flaws


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Only in AH would RTÉ be described as the Irish FOX News AND as Marxist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    mzungu wrote: »
    It really wouldn't.

    Sure didn't you know that Ireland is up there with Nigeria and Somalia as amongst the most corrupt nations on Earth?

    C'mon now mzungu.....get with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    The ethos of rte had Drastically changed in the last 20 years they are just a government mouthpiece.
    They really let the people down during the bank bail out.
    They were complicit in the selling of a nation down the river

    Well they were known by the sobriquets RTEFF and Pravda RTE back in the mid to late 2000's....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭hugs_for_drugs


    Is it just a conspiracy theory that no Garda of any rank was ever charged under either the Garda Disciplinary Code or under the Criminal Law for any of the malpractice revealed by whistle blower McCabe or charged for the various attempts to frame, intimidate and discredit McCabe.

    They were all giving bravery medals for the campaign against Mc Cabe, and it worked to an extent but luckily Mc Cabe knows there tricks and recorded the corrupt b@stards.

    What's 11 separate claims worth?
    1 million?
    5 million?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48112108


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    theguzman wrote: »
    RTE is just a cultural Marxist mouthpiece spreading the most politically correct thrash it can imagine. Should be completely cut off from the state, scrap the licence fee and let them sink or swim privately.

    RTE is actually a right wing mouthpiece for the neo capitalists in FFG, they never say anything bad against this right wing govt, no hard questions of the present FFG regime from their interviewers, they are a haven of the rich just like their overpaid 'stars'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    They were all giving bravery medals for the campaign against Mc Cabe, and it worked to an extent but luckily Mc Cabe knows there tricks and recorded the corrupt b@stards.

    What's 11 separate claims worth?
    1 million?
    5 million?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48112108


    The money is coming out of your pocket. Doesn't affect the Gardaí in anyway.

    No guilty party was brought to task.

    This is part of a wider pattern where every time Garda corruption is uncovered no Garda pays a penalty. The tax payer pays the bill. Buy off the occasional victim who they didn't succeed in burying or stitching up. Then it's all forgotten about. What about the millions that disappeared in Templemore? That all went very quiet. Has any been paid back to the exchequer? Has the Garda Boat Club paid back the money? What about the bank account in Cabra?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    The money is coming out of your pocket. Doesn't affect the Gardaí in anyway.

    No guilty party was brought to task.

    This is part of a wider pattern where every time Garda corruption is uncovered no Garda pays a penalty. The tax payer pays the bill. Buy off the occasional victim who they didn't succeed in burying or stitching up. Then it's all forgotten about. What about the millions that disappeared in Templemore? That all went very quiet. Has any been paid back to the exchequer? Has the Garda Boat Club paid back the money? What about the bank account in Cabra?
    The frightening part is most of those cnuts are still out there 'enforcing the law'.

    If they had any decency they would have to arrest themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    The money is coming out of your pocket. Doesn't affect the Gardaí in anyway.

    No guilty party was brought to task.

    This is part of a wider pattern where every time Garda corruption is uncovered no Garda pays a penalty. The tax payer pays the bill. Buy off the occasional victim who they didn't succeed in burying or stitching up. Then it's all forgotten about. What about the millions that disappeared in Templemore? That all went very quiet. Has any been paid back to the exchequer? Has the Garda Boat Club paid back the money? What about the bank account in Cabra?

    Sham of an organisation, just look at the penalty points debacle. Zero credibility left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    People are sick to death hearing about Maurice McCabe at this stage. RTE being the caring sensitive bunch they are, realise that and limit their coverage of it, thankfully.

    True that. Maniac 2000 was great at the time, but we’ve moved on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Delighted for McCabe. The man is a national hero and is lucky to be alive.

    Hopefully he has started the reform of another very corrupt Irish organisation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    Life is far too short for discussing current affairs in a very serious manner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭hugs_for_drugs


    The money is coming out of your pocket. Doesn't affect the Gardaí in anyway.

    No guilty party was brought to task.

    This is part of a wider pattern where every time Garda corruption is uncovered no Garda pays a penalty. The tax payer pays the bill. Buy off the occasional victim who they didn't succeed in burying or stitching up. Then it's all forgotten about. What about the millions that disappeared in Templemore? That all went very quiet. Has any been paid back to the exchequer? Has the Garda Boat Club paid back the money? What about the bank account in Cabra?

    Mc Cabe and his family deserve every cent and more, would the pay out be in the millions thought?

    You forgot the missing phones with a custy job in Europe, 12 shredded bags of papers and still he has his pension. AGS involvement in large scale drug importation but yet target the drug users to boost detection numbers.

    Don't worry though they'll get guards to investigate guards with no wrong doing found.

    Gangsters don't get a look into An Garda.

    An no investigative reporter will dig deeper for fear of what happened to Mc Cabe or there information source will be cut off too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    An no investigative reporter will dig deeper for fear of what happened to Mc Cabe or there information source will be cut off too.

    Does Ireland actually have any investigative reporters left?. I mean proper investigative journalists. The closest thing the Irish Times have to an investigative reporter is some fella that goes into supermarkets comparing the prices of jam or olive oil...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The ethos of rte had Drastically changed in the last 20 years they are just a government mouthpiece.

    Hmmm. I miss RTÉ in the glory days of 1972 when the Irish government sacked every member of the RTÉ Authority for refusing to reveal a journalist's source for a story. But that was nothing to what came after. I especially miss RTÉ in its Sticky RTÉ heyday thereafter. Watching the agenda of the Ned Stapleton Cumann of the Workers' Party under the direction of Eoghan Harris, Éamonn Smullen, John Cadden and others permeate every single news and current affairs programme under the accommodating eye of senior RTÉ figures like Joe Mulholland and others all the way until October 1994 when it hit Peak Sticky with Gay Byrne's refusal to shake Gerry Adams' hand on the Late Late. Mary McAleese has given some caustic reflections about how she was treated there as a journalist while Harris and his ilk called the shots. Almost all downhill for the Sticky agenda after October 1994, although it was still spluttering into 1996 in the form of Myles Dungan on Drivetime but they knew the game was up at that stage - the supposed 'Pan-nationalist Front' and supposed 'Hush Puppy Provos' had won and the Sunday Independent and the Stickies had lost decisively.


    If it's currently a government mouthpiece, the current Blueshirt RTÉ manages the extraordinary feat of being a genuinely welcome break from Sticky TV, which is now on its last legs even in the Sunday Independent where only Eoghan Harris remains raging on (although Cadden's son-in-law Brendan O'Connor helps out when he can).

    Mick Heaney,'The battle for political supremacy in the [RTÉ] newsroom' (The Irish Times, 3 January 2012)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    archer22 wrote: »
    Your one on Primetime about the Eurovision tonight was firing off the auld loaded propaganda soundbites again ..such as "Russia supporting the Assad regime" etc blah blah blah

    How about simply stating, Russia helping the Syrian legitimate government fight terrorism, which is more factually correct.

    After all RTE will never accuse America of supporting the Israeli or Saudi regimes.

    RTE is the Irish version of FOX NEWS.
    theguzman wrote: »
    RTE is just a cultural Marxist mouthpiece spreading the most politically correct thrash it can imagine. Should be completely cut off from the state, scrap the licence fee and let them sink or swim privately.
    klaaaz wrote: »
    RTE is actually a right wing mouthpiece for the neo capitalists in FFG, they never say anything bad against this right wing govt, no hard questions of the present FFG regime from their interviewers, they are a haven of the rich just like their overpaid 'stars'.
    Which is it?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    To me, RTE is mostly in the centre but can have a left-wing slant when it comes to opinion.

    Calling the short coverage of the latest in the McCabe scandal "shameless propaganda" (when RTE has covered the story in depth previously) is just hysteria though.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Only in AH would RTÉ be described as the Irish FOX News AND as Marxist.

    It's a right wing, homophobic, bigoted propaganda mill run by a bunch of limp-wristed, keep-cup wielding, bearded Lefties!!

    No matter what way the OP leans, start a thread about something no one likes and it will soon take on the sins of all those people who can't accept that not everything is partisan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    RTE wages get paid by the government. It would go bust in the morning if the tax payer was not holding it up.

    So it is exactly what the government wants it to be. They will never attack a in power government, just in case they turn around and reduce the license fee. The Government know this and use it for propaganda.

    Like RTE news on one day, going on about Brexit, next thing they took into a 5 min "review" of the Irish government and how great they are, especially FG working with FF so no general election. Pure bull****

    The problem RTE have is that it's core audience is actually dying, young people no longer listen so they are becoming more and more irrelvant. People are no longer paying the license fee and hence why they are pushing it down our throats with huge advertisement on RTE. Also trying to get the government to just take it out of people wages.

    Some party, very soon will realize if they attack RTE they will win a huge popular vote with younger people. That will be the end of RTE. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

    I dont know why such top class presentors would be worried, I am sure BBC/ITV etc will pay similar wages to Tuburity :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭B-D-P--


    They settled with a undisclosed fee, We all know the story.
    Do you want them to repeat the story again? There were more serious stories to be fair, the murder case and the acid story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    They were all giving bravery medals for the campaign against Mc Cabe, and it worked to an extent but luckily Mc Cabe knows there tricks and recorded the corrupt b@stards.

    What's 11 separate claims worth?
    1 million?
    5 million?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48112108

    Would like to know the extent of the payout myself. As a benchmark Frank McBrearty in Donegal was harassed by the Gardai for over 10 years, had his pub constantly raided and then they tried to frame him for murder. His payout (iirc) was way back in 2005 and he got €1.5m. In McCabes case he was also harassed for a decade by Gardai and they tried to frame him as a paedophile. I'd imagine with inflation McCabes payout is circa €4m-€5m or so. It could be slightly more than that as the State would have wanted to avoid a public court case at all costs so McCabe and his legal team would have had them over a barrel.
    The money is coming out of your pocket. Doesn't affect the Gardaí in anyway.

    No guilty party was brought to task.

    This is part of a wider pattern where every time Garda corruption is uncovered no Garda pays a penalty. The tax payer pays the bill. Buy off the occasional victim who they didn't succeed in burying or stitching up. Then it's all forgotten about. What about the millions that disappeared in Templemore? That all went very quiet. Has any been paid back to the exchequer? Has the Garda Boat Club paid back the money? What about the bank account in Cabra?

    Very true, taxpayer on the hook with no accountability for the Gardai. Thats why we have tribunals instead of criminal trials for white collar crime- the tribunal gives the illusion of accountability while it is ongoing but once it is over nothing happens. Just look at the Moriarty Tribunal which revealed corruption by DoB, not a jot done about it by the Gardai since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭Rezident


    jetsonx wrote: »
    Closure was brought to the Maurice McCabe Vs Irish State today when the plaintiff was awarded his damages.

    This landmark trial vindicated McCabe and his accusations of deep corruption problems within our police force and within state agencies like Tusla.

    How much time did RTE Six One New give it?...about 15 seconds.

    Utterly shameless RTE...This would make a propaganda chief in North Korea or China blush.


    RTE has been biased for years and shamelessly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Rte news at 6 were fairly doubling down on their diversity and women's sports campaigning today

    I only caught the last 10 minutes but they had

    News segment on 2fm music campaign to promote diversity in music

    Segment on diversity of people getting Irish citizenship

    They had a segment on two girls playing GAA in a cabbage field because they had no where else to train???

    A women's auusie rules player(from Ireland)got a sports injury in Australia and it was one of the top headlines in the sports segment???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,811 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    RTE, your national propaganda station.

    Manages to be both right AND left wing at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    A women's auusie rules player(from Ireland)got a sports injury in Australia and it was one of the top headlines in the sports segment???

    This story wasn’t just “covered” by RTÉ, other news outlets picked it up too.

    In fact, I’m seeing today that the player who “caused” the injury has been given a ban. Not sure if RTÉ have reported that, I haven’t checked.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    archer22 wrote: »
    Your one on Primetime about the Eurovision tonight was firing off the auld loaded propaganda soundbites again ..such as "Russia supporting the Assad regime" etc blah blah blah

    How about simply stating, Russia helping the Syrian legitimate government fight terrorism, which is more factually correct.

    After all RTE will never accuse America of supporting the Israeli or Saudi regimes.

    RTE is the Irish version of FOX NEWS.

    Russia never "helps" anyone except for Putin and his cabal of crooks.


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