Halawa has his student fees paid by trinity

Beechwoodspark

https://extra.ie/2019/04/23/news/irish-news/ibrahim-halawa-trinity-college-fees

What the hell??

Kivaro

I believe he will be studying "Film Studies" or "Theatre" at Trinity.

RobbingBandit

Rule bending nonsense hope this causes uproar especially for students struggling to meet such high fees

Faugheen

Trinity waives fees for student.

Nothing to see here.

WillieMason

He must think the Irish are right clowns

Atoms for Peace

Faugheen wrote: »

Trinity waives fees for student.

Nothing to see here.

A student with links to a violent right wing organisation.

RobbingBandit

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Rule bending nonsense hope this causes uproar especially for students struggling to meet such high fees

It's quite simple. Halawa's profile has him an an advantage. If they didn't waive his fees, he'd kick up a media fuss & Trinity's standing would be damaged internationally. All rather cynical, but both sides win here.

SEPT 23 1989

Plenty of money in that family no reason why he could not pay

Faugheen

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

A student with links to a violent right wing organisation.

Ah yes, he’s just going to blow it up isn’t he?

Faugheen

Did anyone read the article by the way?

He would have had to pay the fees of that of an international student (despite being Irish) because he spent three of his last 5 years abroad.

However, they took into acccount that why he was abroad (being kept in prison without trial) and waived that rule, so he’ll pay the fees of an Irish student instead.

No doubt people will ignore this and continue to be outraged without even educating themselves.

somesoldiers

Let’s hope the canteen grub is up to his standard

amdublin

The article is pretty clear on the "why".

It doesn't seem unreasonable to me tbh

DavidLyons_

We should always remember him and his supporter (including the vile Zappone) chanting Alluah Akbar at Dublin Airport upon his return.

awec

WillieMason wrote: »

He must think the Irish are right clowns

If he reads some of the posts on this thread he'll be left with no doubt anyway.

People should probably read the article before they get all hot and bothered.

Faugheen

By the way, this is old news. People were getting outraged about it two weeks ago before it was all cleared up and they went back into their holes.

Faugheen

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

We should always remember him and his supporter (including the vile Zappone) chanting Alluah Akbar at Dublin Airport upon his return.

You know what allahu akhbar actually means, don’t you?

Don’t mistake it as anything more than it is because some terrorists say it.

Hurrache

Faugheen wrote: »

Did anyone read the article by the way?

He would have had to pay the fees of that of an international student (despite being Irish) because he spent three of his last 5 years abroad.

However, they took into acccount that why he was abroad (being kept in prison without trial) and waived that rule, so he’ll pay the fees of an Irish student instead.

No doubt people will ignore this and continue to be outraged without even educating themselves.

Ah, where are the After Hours moronic rabble going to go with their pitchfork and torches now? Quick, someone bump one of the immigration threads to distract them

Beechwoodspark

Faugheen wrote: »

You know what allahu akhbar actually means, don’t you?

Don’t mistake it as anything more than it is because some terrorists say it.

Commonly ppl think it means god is great, but there’s a very important difference to what it actually translates as

super_furry

Someone start up the After Hours right-wing outrage machine!

Oh what's that, it's permanently running and the levels of whinging could power Ireland for decades if only we could harness them? Well that's just dandy.

So now all that's left is to fill 30 or so pages with anti-muslim alt-right claptrap. Have at it lads.

Faugheen

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Commonly ppl think it means god is great, but there’s a very important difference to what it actually translates as

It literally translates to ‘God is greatest’.

Don’t let the facts get in the way of an agenda, I suppose.

EDIT: That post is completely different to the one I quoted. Why did you edit it? You realise your original post was wrong?

Beechwoodspark

Faugheen wrote: »

It literally translates to ‘God is greatest’.

Don’t let the facts get in the way of an agenda, I suppose.

Basically the above

It means “allah is greatest”. Not allah is great. No. A step further.

So basically it is a cry that asserts allahs superiority and dominance over everything

Fr_Dougal

About time this poor fella had a bit of luck. Was shocking to see him try to go to the cinema over in Egypt and accidentally end up being a speaker at a Muslim Brotherhood protest.

DavidLyons_

Faugheen wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

We should always remember him and his supporter (including the vile Zappone) chanting Alluah Akbar at Dublin Airport upon his return.

You know what allahu akhbar actually means, don’t you?

Don’t mistake it as anything more than it is because some terrorists say it.

Yes
I do know what it means thank you.

He was (and to many still is) a suspected Islamist sympathiser. If you can’t understand that some would object to the phrase being chanted in a western airport in 2017 by that very same suspected Islamist sympathiser and his supporters, well what can I say.

Tacklebox

Now he's a stude from Trinners...

Always wanted to say that.

Stude from Trinners

kowloon

somesoldiers wrote: »

Let’s hope the canteen grub is up to his standard

It's in the middle of town, plenty of choice beyond the Pav and the buttery.
Somewhere will do prison food to suit his taste.

Tacklebox wrote: »

Now he's a stude from Trinners...

Always wanted to say that.

Stude from Trinners

'Trinners for Winners' is the term you use if you want to come across as a tosser.

Faugheen

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Yes
I do know what it means thank you.

He was (and to many still is) a suspected Islamist sympathiser. If you can’t understand that some would object to the phrase being chanted in a western airport in 2017 by that very same suspected Islamist sympathiser and his supporters, well what can I say.

That phrase has been used long before Islamic terrorism was a thing. If you’re afraid of a fella using it because he’s a Muslim then you need a reality check.

Phileas Frog

I had my student fees paid for by the government when I went to university. Crucify me.

Everyone does

Alrigghtythen

He'll fit right in there with the fgm lad

Faugheen

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Basically the above

It means “allah is greatest”. Not allah is great. No. A step further.

So basically it is a cry that asserts allahs superiority and dominance over everything

It’s essentially the same as saying ‘in the name of the Father...’

How do you feel now that you’ve read the article and what is actually happening? A little silly?

Beechwoodspark

Faugheen wrote: »

It’s essentially the same as saying ‘in the name of the Father...’

How do you feel now that you’ve read the article and what is actually happening? A little silly?

Sorry. Can’t let you engage in silly word play.

It’s far more assertive and domineering than in the name of the father

The phrase is literally saying allah is dominant over everything and everyone.

Including western society and basic human rights.

But you knew that right?

Atoms for Peace

Faugheen wrote: »

Ah yes, he’s just going to blow it up isn’t he?

Don't be silly, give the man some credit.

Beechwoodspark

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

He'll fit right in there with the fgm lad

Doctor Ali was actually sacked by trinners few months back due to his ...ahem... confusion over fgm

Faugheen

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sorry. Can’t let you engage in silly word play.

It’s far more assertive and domineering than in the name of the father

It’s saying allah is dominant over everything and everyone.

Including western society and basic human rights.

But you knew that right?

I’m not going to let you spread falsehoods.

What’s your opinion on the facts regarding Ibrahim Halawa’s fees and not the ones you’ve made up after reading a headline and link dumping?

Answer that for me and I’ll think about answering your rabble.

stefanovich

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Commonly ppl think it means god is great, but there’s a very important difference to what it actually translates as

That term has been taken over by extremists. Go into an airport and shout it and you'll be shot dead.

petes

"Some common sense must be applied here"....

DavidLyons_

Faugheen wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Yes
I do know what it means thank you.

He was (and to many still is) a suspected Islamist sympathiser. If you can’t understand that some would object to the phrase being chanted in a western airport in 2017 by that very same suspected Islamist sympathiser and his supporters, well what can I say.

That phrase has been used long before Islamic terrorism was a thing. If you’re afraid of a fella using it because he’s a Muslim then you need a reality check.

No. Try to fully read the posts and not just the bits you’d like to see.

He was viewed as (and still is in some quarters) as an Islamist sympathiser. Chanting that phrase in Dublin Airport in 2017 was very inappropriate to say the least.

Zappone, in particular, should be remembered for her part in it.

Beechwoodspark

It was beyond ironic to see zappone of all ppl, a lauded liberal lesbian politician standing there in the middle of it all. Trying to ignore the roaring and screaming as best she could.

Patty Hearst

Faugheen wrote: »

I’m not going to let you spread falsehoods.

What’s your opinion on the facts regarding Ibrahim Halawa’s fees and not the ones you’ve made up after reading a headline and link dumping?

Answer that for me and I’ll think about answering your rabble.

His beloved father is on record as advocating for the death penalty for Homosexuals..I wonder if he agrees with his father on this matter?

Beechwoodspark

Patty Hearst wrote: »

His beloved father is on record as advocating for the death penalty for Homosexuals..I wonder if he agrees with his father on this matter?

I didn’t know that.

Awkward when they met zappone surely then??

And of course Leo as well took up his cause

Faugheen

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

No. Try to fully read the posts and not just the bits you’d like to see.

He was viewed as (and still is in some quarters) as an Islamist sympathiser. Chanting that phrase in Dublin Airport in 2017 was very inappropriate to say the least.

Zappone, in particular, should be remembered for her part in it.

Why?

Because some scumbag extremists use it before carrying out their acts of evil?

It was an everyday term that nobody had an issue with until extremists started using it. Use of that term does not mean they’re ISIL sympathisers.

DavidLyons_

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It was beyond ironic to see zappone of all ppl, a lauded liberal lesbian politician standing there in the middle of it all. Trying to ignore the roaring and screaming as best she could.

She joined in. A horrible, horrible woman.

Faugheen

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It was beyond ironic to see zappone of all ppl, a lauded liberal lesbian politician standing there in the middle of it all. Trying to ignore the roaring and screaming as best she could.

Answer my post, or are you doing that thing where you ignore it and hope I forget?

Don’t be coward. Admit you were wrong with this thread.

Beechwoodspark

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

She joined in. A horrible, horrible woman.

Seriously?

I remember the live radio coverage on the morning in question and the unearthly screeching that was going on in the background when he arrived into the arrivals hall - she as a liberal lesbian well educated politician actually joined in ??

Even tho she knew full well it was and is the battle cry of despicable anti gay regimes like saudi and the isis controlled territories to name two??

Tell me this isn’t true???

DavidLyons_

Faugheen wrote: »

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

No. Try to fully read the posts and not just the bits you’d like to see.

He was viewed as (and still is in some quarters) as an Islamist sympathiser. Chanting that phrase in Dublin Airport in 2017 was very inappropriate to say the least.

Zappone, in particular, should be remembered for her part in it.

Why?

Because some scumbag extremists use it before carrying out their acts of evil?

It was an everyday term that nobody had an issue with until extremists started using it. Use of that term does not mean they’re ISIL sympathisers.

It’s nice and simple. An airport in 2017 is not the place to chant slogans that have been appropriated by and widely used by groups who seek to perform terrorist acts. Whether by said groups at the time or not.

The fact that Halawa was viewed by many as an Islamist sympathiser made it even more inappropriate.

Wibbs

Zappone is the near definition of a wooly headed progressive and useful idiot with a 100% successful irony bypass.

Tacklebox

Will they remove the book of Kells now in order not to be offensive?

Will all our Christian artifacts and relics be moved just in case they're not PC or offensive?

Hal3000

I really don't understand this government ? They seem hell-bent on enraging the Irish public. The even worse problem is that come election day we will vote them all back in. I have no issue with this guy studying / integrating here but free fees ? This is just going to totally enrage everyone

Faugheen

Hal3000 wrote: »

I really don't understand this government ? They seem hell-bent on enraging the Irish public. The even worse problem is that come election day we will vote them all back in. I have no issue with this guy studying / integrating here but free fees ? This is just going to totally enrage everyone

He's not getting free f*cking fees.

Read the f*cking article.

stefanovich

Is he a proven extremist sympathiser?

stefanovich

Faugheen wrote: »

He's not getting free f*cking fees.

Read the f*cking article.

He doesn't have to pay. That sounds free to me.

Hal3000

Faugheen wrote: »

He's not getting free f*cking fees.

Read the f*cking article.

Ok WAIVED fees. Christ !