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Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Dunno if Stewart has quite wrested the starting jersey off him, but Herring's injured at the moment anyway.


    That team are very capable of winning, if they can keep the heads straight. Al lot of players straight back in from injury though - Refell, Burns, Stockdale, Hume, Baloucoune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Interestingly, there's not an Ulster front five player I'd swap for his Munster counterpart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I would focus on the league from here on out, if I was MacFarland. Europe is probably a done deal. I believe it's La Rochelle up next? Away too. Then home to Sale. Depending on what happens with LA. R, the side that plays v Sale will most likely be inexperienced.

    That loss to Sale really blew out Ulsters tyres.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Ben Healy, anyone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    What? Is he flying to Scotland via Belfast?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Would he have a higher ceiling than Burns and Madigan? Or Doak at 10?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Never really been overly impressed with Healy tbh, always felt like the hype around him was more for his last minute penalty kicks. That being said, I'd be happy to have him competing for a starting jersey here but it just doesn't seem like a great use of resources. If rumours of his potential salary at Edinburgh are close to true then it would be braindead to chase his signature when we're trotting out greg jones and sean reffell as starting backrowers in a provincial derby game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Ulster can still advance in Europe but it will mean probably playing Leinster in a L16 if so which is pretty much a death sentence anyway so on that front yes focusing on the league would be wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    If you came from the future to bestow two possible futures on us: win the league and crash in europe, or knock leinster out of europe and underperform in the league then I have to admit that I'd hesitate.

    However, you are probably correct.



  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stockdale drops two high balls but catches the third and is met by an ironic cheer from his own fans. I love the ulster crowd



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Munster haven't fired in attack at all. One crash ball from Fekitoa aside, there's very little coming from midfield. Crowley and Patterson are struggling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Serbian


    Impressed with Ulster’s defence. Munster got close to the 22 once and by the time they kicked it away they were back on the half way line.

    The handling from Ulster has been surprisingly poor however, lost count of the number of knock ons, the conditions seem pretty good too.

    Also gutted for Marty Moore, that looks like a potentially serious injury for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,424 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That's very unfortunate for Moore, looks like a cruciate or perhaps a localised break.

    If that lad didn't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Poor Marty

    Feel like his entire career has been a story of injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    That pass from McCloskey was majestic



  • Administrators Posts: 55,348 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Spineless bunch of losers.

    thats the end of McFarland for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Ulster really haven't given that big response since losing badly against Leinster and Sale. The La Rochelle game was close on the scoreboard, but it was over as a contest after 50 minutes.

    They've sputtered along and shown flashes of good rugby, but haven't been near good enough in the their last 5 fixtures. Munster didn't play well tonight and where there for the taking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭almostover


    It must be a worry now for Ulster fans, there is a serious mental frailty after developing. Thought it was game over with the Balancoune try and it would have been only Doak narrowly missed the touchline conversion. But that game is another capitulation really for Ulster. 9 pts up with 10 mins to go in front of a home crowd, have to be driving home from there.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,770 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    It's a lack of learning at this stage

    6 points up with 5 minutes to go, on a cold trudging night ...you simply kick the leather off the ball and keep Munster in their corners, form a 13 man wall and put minimum into rucks to slow the ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    Horrible way to loose, hard luck. No way Munster should be winning that game given where they were with 8 mins left. Does seem to be a mental issue at this stage. Ulster ahead in games and not being able to close them out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    Missed kick to touch and 2 lost lineouts of their own late in the game really cost Ulster.... Munster's last phase was excellent tho.



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hard to view that as anything other than a disaster.

    Some silver linings, Henderson looking back to good form, McCloskey terrific again and defence was really excellent at times.

    Pack seem to have lost all sense of urgency and to ship 10 points in the last 10 minutes is criminal.

    And what's happened to Stockdale, shadow of the player he was pre covid.

    Very disappointing to see the season start to go this way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,424 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Hard to escape that conclusion.

    Whats the succession plan though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Awful from Ulster. Hume was gash. Vermuellem offered nothing. He was anonymous. Milasonovic is just .... not good.

    Jesus! Ulster need a boot up the hole. Very poor. Stockdale wasn't very good either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,775 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    The defence in the first half was good. In the second half it was shambolic. There were 2 or 3 incidents where Ulster didn’t even form a defensive line. They were all over the place. I just don’t know where Ulster go from here tbh. Sure they could change coaches again, but this mental frailty isn’t a new thing at all. So is changing the coach going to solve it? I’m not so sure. That said, it does look like McFarland needs to go. Almost as much for himself as for Ulster.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    When you have to bring on Milanosovic and Carter, it's shows glaring holes in the squad. Why Ulster carry these lads beggars belief.

    Re watched and the lack of leadership and intent from Vermuellen is frustrating. He was completely off form, no real impact. Munster had a hungry backrow. Reffell was ok, never saw him before. Jones tried hard. Ulster needed Vermuellen and he didn't show.

    MacFarland must be livid. Munster weren't great and couldn't make inroads. Then Ulster **** the bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭launish116


    Actually thought Reffel showed potential for his first game!

    We just don’t have an answer for a fan out defence.

    People need to also realise Vermeulen’s age and he’s not a 80 minute monster anymore. It’s clear he’s managing his minutes during the game.

    Our pack still has glaring holes once you remove any first choice Tightheads & any back row.

    Actually sad Sutherland is leaving, sure he is also and probably wishes he had signed when we sniffed around him last time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    In that case, Vermuellen should be on the bench. Impact off the bench?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭launish116


    Yes he should but what other ballast do we have when your playing with Reffel/Jones.

    Until Ulster have a couple of proper 6/8 we’re always going to struggle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    It's a concern to be sure. But, he needs to offer more.



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