Incident at P&E Boarding Kennels

xtal191

Not sure if this the right place to post about this if so do delete.

Now we did leave our pup there for the day and they seemed fine, the owner was a little rude but anyway I just came across this story a few minutes ago and I think everyone thinking of using them should be made aware of this.

The 3rd picture might disturb someone so you've been warned but imo you need to see it.

I've never met this woman or know anything about her before I read it, I'm just disgusted and angered by it all.

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On the 27th of December 2018 I brought my husky Nova to <snip> boarding kennels to be boarded for 3 days while my family went to Iceland. Nova had an ongoing issue with Colitis and this was being managed with steroids for the last few months successfully, she had been checked by my vet prior to boarding and we had discussed taking her off the steroids as she was responding so well.
I gave multiple written and verbal instructions on how the steroid was to be given separately to her food and that she needs to get this twice a day, <snip> also advertise that they cater for medication and dogs that need extra care once they are informed in advance. On the 31st of December I went straight from the airport to <snip> to collect Nova. I rang 4 times waiting outside to pick her up. <snip> answered and told me to come around to the gate when I told him I was here for Nova. Once in, we were told Nova had died - they had found her that morning bloodied in her kennel. We where shocked and beyond devastated at this as we had left a healthy dog in 3 days earlier. I asked the kennels immediately if she had received her medication and I was told she had. They had crushed Nova into what I can only describe as a ball wrapped in a black bag, covered in masking tape. There was no care or empathy in the way she had been handled. It was utterly traumatic and heartbreaking to leave with her like that. We drove straight to the vet and she was horrified, and couldn’t believe there was a 25kg husky crammed in this ball. We confirmed via microchip that it was Nova and made the decision to send Nova for a postmortem in UCD due to the circumstances. I emailed and messaged <snip> asking for more information on how she had seemed when she was with them etc. and I still have not received any kind of contact back. Nova was a once in a lifetime kind of dog for me and my family and has left a hole that will always be impossible to fill, she is loved and missed every single day and I hope writing this can stop a similar situation in the future. Clearly these kennels are not fit to provide the levels of care they advertise. #justicefornova

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tiredblondie

There's a 2nd story out now about another dog who passed away in their care - apparently they brought the dog to the vet and they gave the vet consent to be put to sleep and had it cremated and all before the owners even returned from their holidays!

anewme

I was just going to post on the same topic. There now has been a number of people coming forward with similar stories. They also run a rescue, where it costs €200 to adopt a dog and its not clear where the stock of dogs comes from.

I am appalled that anyone could hand a pet back to its owner like that.

The owner of the Kennels has said the dog had parvo and he had been advised to wrap her like that. Another owner returned from holiday to be told their dog had died and they had him creamated, without as much as telling the owner. A third ladies' lurcher was bitten all over with puncture wounds.

There are too many questions to be answered.

There are too many unregulated kennels and rescues in this Country. I was pleased to see another one called into question and disbanded recently over claims of inadequate governance and funds.

My heart is breaking for Nova's owner. I have signed the petition to shut the place down.

ganmo

is there a licensing procedure for kennels?
I saw it this morning and well there is no good way to wrap up a dog is there.

maximoose

Saw this lastnight, crazy

I left my cat in there for 2 nights boarding 3 years ago. There was no harm to him, but he was clearly a bit rattled when we picked him up and smelled absolutely foul. A rather heated argument going on with another customer about the state of their dog when I was picking up too, that was enough warning bells for me and never went near the place again.

We got off very lightly though judging by this story, and the amount of others coming out now saying their pets died/were harmed while staying there

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Thank you OP for not sharing the images directly and giving a warning, unfortunately some muppets on FB do not have the same sense and I accidentally came across the image while I was eating my breakfast this morning. I really did not need to see it and am still shocked to the core.

As for the person who says there is no good way to wrap a dog - cop yourself on. How about being respectful and simply wrapping the dogs body in a blanket or even covering it in plastic without crushing it into an unnatural shape?

tsue921i8wljb3

Even something like a large plastic storage box packed with ice to delay decomposition would have been more dignified. It says a lot about the people running the establishment that this was deemed acceptable.

anewme

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As for the person who says there is no good way to wrap a dog - cop yourself on. How about being respectful and simply wrapping the dogs body in a blanket or even covering it in plastic without crushing it into an unnatural shape?

Imagine being the owner and being handed back your pet like this with no forewarning.

The owner of the kennels did not even have the decency to speak to Nova's owner himself.

Total lack of responsibility and respect. The amount of other stories coming out are also shocking.

tiredblondie

Why was the name removed from the title??

ganmo

in an ice box situation the body would still have to be wrapped in plastic to avoid it getting wet.

What I was trying to say was that no matter how the poor dog was wrapped up it not good.

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anewme wrote: »

Imagine being the owner and being handed back your pet like this with no forewarning.

The owner of the kennels did not even have the decency to speak to Nova's owner himself.

Total lack of responsibility and respect. The amount of other stories coming out are also shocking.

They basically mutilated the animals corpse and treated it like meat.

It is utterly unacceptable.

I also dont doubt for a minute that they were instrumental in causing the death of the poor creature. Or at least in not treating something they should have. Wrapping it up like that makes me suspicious that they were trying to hide an injury, as they must have injured the corpse badly to be able to wrap it that way.

Does anyone know what the post mortem showed?

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ganmo wrote: »

in an ice box situation the body would still have to be wrapped in plastic to avoid it getting wet.

What I was trying to say was that no matter how the poor dog was wrapped up it not good.

Wrapped. Not squashed, compressed and mutilated into a ball.

They must have broken and/or dislocated bones in the poor animals corpse to fit it into the ball they made of it.

Its absolutely disgusting and if someone treated my pet like that, post mortem, I would be heart broken.

Cherry Blossom

Will all posters please be aware that Boards is not permitted to be used for campaigns, boycotting businesses, to gain exposure for petitions or 'rallying the troops'. Unless someone can provide a link to a reputable source (ie. A newspaper article) then do not name the kennels as this could be seen as potential defamation.

You can discuss this matter within the parameters given above.

Thanks,
CB.

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Cherry Blossom wrote: »

Will all posters please be aware that Boards is not permitted to be used for campaigns, boycotting businesses or 'rallying the troops'. Unless someone can provide a link to a reputable source (ie. A newspaper article) then do not name the kennels as this could be seen as potential defamation.

You can discuss this matter within the parameters given above.

Thanks,
CB.

Online articles:

https://www.buzz.ie/news/dublin-dog-owner-slams-kennel-pet-wrapped-black-bag-covered-masking-tape-324604

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/24/anger-insensitive-kennels-wrapping-husky-duct-tape-died-9302871/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6955527/Dog-sitters-tell-owner-pet-died-hand-dead-husky-wrapped-duct-tape.html

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/distraught-owner-given-dog-back-16173980

Its all over online media. And the kennel is named in all the articles.

tsue921i8wljb3

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They basically mutilated the animals corpse and treated it like meat.

It is utterly unacceptable.

I also dont doubt for a minute that they were instrumental in causing the death of the poor creature. Or at least in not treating something they should have. Wrapping it up like that makes me suspicious that they were trying to hide an injury, as they must have injured the corpse badly to be able to wrap it that way.

Does anyone know what the post mortem showed?

Inconclusive the owner stated. UCD said the dog likely died from internal bleeding but were unable to say what caused the blood loss. I think she also said there was no food in the dog's stomach.

Phileas Frog

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

Will all posters please be aware that Boards is not permitted to be used for campaigns, boycotting businesses, to gain exposure for petitions or 'rallying the troops'. Unless someone can provide a link to a reputable source (ie. A newspaper article) then do not name the kennels as this could be seen as potential defamation.

You can discuss this matter within the parameters given above.

Thanks,
CB.

Listen back to Liveline there like a good chap.

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I actually think its in the public interest to restore the kennels name in this thread title.

AryaStark

ganmo wrote: »

is there a licensing procedure for kennels?
I saw it this morning and well there is no good way to wrap up a dog is there.

Yes there is. There was no respect at all shown here and I would be doing time if somebody did that to my dog. I can't understand what kind of person would do something like that. Looked like garbage and that is no way to handle a loved beautiful pet.

lawred2

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Online articles:

https://www.buzz.ie/news/dublin-dog-owner-slams-kennel-pet-wrapped-black-bag-covered-masking-tape-324604

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/24/anger-insensitive-kennels-wrapping-husky-duct-tape-died-9302871/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6955527/Dog-sitters-tell-owner-pet-died-hand-dead-husky-wrapped-duct-tape.html

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/distraught-owner-given-dog-back-16173980

Its all over online media. And the kennel is named in all the articles.

Pretty much all of those 'media' outlets source their 'news' from social media.

What you're seeing there is the same story being picked up and published.

Not saying it didn't happen but I wouldn't trust any of them to be fact checking, contacting the person who posted that story or even giving the kennels a quick ring.

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lawred2 wrote: »

Pretty much all of those 'media' outlets source their 'news' from social media.

What you're seeing there is the same story being picked up and published.

Not saying it didn't happen but I wouldn't trust any of them to be fact checking, contacting the person who posted that story or even giving the kennels a quick ring.

Its on more than the links I posted.

And its been talked about on Liveline radio today.

It will no doubt hit print media shortly - it only broke last night.

Anyway - the point is - it can be named if other media outlets have named it.

cocker5

I read this post yesterday and was devastated for the owners... what a horrific story :eek:

honest to god if I came back to collect my guy Cody and was handed back to me like this... honestly I wouldn't be responsible for my actions.. honestly id loose my sh*te altogether...

whatever about a dog getting ill, calling the owner, getting their vet and trying to help and the dog still doesn't make it (albeit id still freak out)
but to be handed back like THAT??????????????? 3 days and the dogs dead???

Honestly the photo of the poor dog wrapped up like a piece of rubbish... what were they thinking?

I hope they get some justice for the poor dog...

ashes2014

Poor Nova-they may never find out what happened to her.

Poor lady, she must be heart broken.

anewme

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Does anyone know what the post mortem showed?

Update from Owner:

The result for Nova that came back showed it was internal bleeding that caused her to bleed out , she also had no food in her stomach so unfortunately the post mortem was unable to determine if she was given the steroids. Bloods and main cause also came back inconclusive although it is known that the only way this bleeding could be brought on so quickly In relation to the Colitis would be if nova had not received her medication that was managed and stopped this.
Now What is asked is... WHAT happened Nova in her final hours?
WHO administered the mediation to Nova or did they?
WHAT was her demeanour in her last hours?
WHY her owners weren't informed?
WHY were they not brought in and shown compassion and respect?
WHY did the owner of the establishment leave in the van on owners arrival?
WHY did someone else to hand the dog out?
WHY was Nova's owner not brought inside?
WHY won't you answer?

I see another woman has said now that she left a dog with them and when she came to collect him was told he was 'gone'. Apparently the dog become very unwell so they brought him to the vet but he wasn't responding to treatment so they gave the vet the go ahead to have him pts and then had him cremated, all without the owner knowing?!?!?! Could that be true? Because that's incomprehensible to me. But then so is being handed back your dog like poor Nova was so I just don't know...

D3V!L

We dropped our dog in there for a couple of days when he was young. He came back smelling of Jayees fluid and very traumatized. He bolted from the car when we got home and ran the length of the road before we could catch him.

Beheretomorrow

Sorry to hear this.

I wish people would use Google reviews to leave this type of feedback so other people are made aware of their experience

Hellrazer

Phileas Frog wrote: »

Listen back to Liveline there like a good chap.

No need to be a smart arse. That's no way to talk to a mod who has already issued a warning on thread.
Please don't post in this thread again or I will ban you from the forum for good.

I hadn’t heard the poor dog had parvovirus, but this would indeed explain the Colitis-like symptoms, and is a much more serious condition than idiopathic inflammatory bowel disease in dogs. It would also explain why the poor beautiful animal had to be sealed tightly, however disagreeable this might be. If it is indeed true he had parvo then steroids would suppress his immune system making the infection even worse. It would also mean that the kennel owner had a duty to dispose of the animal as it’s sadly not curable and spreads to other animals. But, again I say this is only if it was known that he did have parvovirus. In any case it seems there should have been communication with the owner, assuming that the owner left a valid telephone number with the kennels etc. when I leave my cat into boarding they have my number plus that of a relative back home in case of emergency. I always have to sign a waiver that he may be euthanised upon decision of the vet.

D3V!L

D3V!L wrote: »

We dropped our dog in there for a couple of days when he was young. He came back smelling of Jayees fluid and very traumatized. He bolted from the car when we got home and ran the length of the road before we could catch him.

At least Jeyes fluid means they are disinfecting the place, although in animal care shelters like <snip> they use pet-safe products.

Millem

I have used them for maybe 9/10 years.....never had any trouble.
Another rescue also uses/used them before dogs go to UK. Not sure if they still do?
It is so awful what happened. Why didn’t he call the vet that is 5/10 minutes away.
I am sure the vet would of held onto the dog until the owner came home.

With regard to the other story with the cremation....I find that very strange? I would be interested to find out what vet cremated the animal. Two months ago I had to pts one of my dogs and I got her cremated......I can’t remember the cost but it was a few hundred euro.

pawrick

Was reading about this case last night and comments from other people who had issues with the same kennels. The image of the dog wrapped up was shocking. Not saying they were to blame for the dogs death but it seems the entire situation was handled terribly by an experienced kennel. Everything going by other peoples comments seems very off about this place, dogs should not be coming out terrified or with unexplained injuries.

borderlinemeath

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I hadn’t heard the poor dog had parvovirus, but this would indeed explain the Colitis-like symptoms, and is a much more serious condition than idiopathic inflammatory bowel disease in dogs. It would also explain why the poor beautiful animal had to be sealed tightly, however disagreeable this might be. If it is indeed true he had parvo then steroids would suppress his immune system making the infection even worse. It would also mean that the kennel owner had a duty to dispose of the animal as it’s sadly not curable and spreads to other animals. But, again I say this is only if it was known that he did have parvovirus. In any case it seems there should have been communication with the owner, assuming that the owner left a valid telephone number with the kennels etc. when I leave my cat into boarding they have my number plus that of a relative back home in case of emergency. I always have to sign a waiver that he may be euthanised upon decision of the vet.

The only time that Parvo has been mentioned is a quote that apparently came from the kennel owner. Lets say the poor dog did contract Parvo - how did she get it? Even if she was vaccinated but immunocompromised, she would have had to catch it from either another boarding dog, or more likely one of the many strays and "rescue" dogs that are taken in. Extremely bad animal husbandry keeping paying guests in close contact with possible virus carrying "rescue babys in my care".



Now, again, even if the dog had contracted Parvo, and had to be kept separate, aren't kennels are meant to have quarantine quarters for such occurences? If he contacted a vet and there was a risk of parvo outbreak, what dog was the cause of it? He would have had to attend a vet with the dog that brought in the parvo in the first place, where's that detail? And ANY vet worth their veterinary licence would have opened out of hours to take the poor dogs body to keep in cold storage to prevent a parvo outbreak.



And finally. No phonecall, no words of compassion, no warning but "here's your dog in wrapped up". I mean look at the state of the package? How can you comprehend that this was a 25kg dog? And that to just hand her over like this with zero information and nothing since is professional behaviour?

anewme

There was no mention of Parvovirus on the post Mortem conducted by Novas owners vet. Kennel owner is offering it as an excuse. There’s no excuses for handing back a dog to it’s owner like this and not even having the respect to speak to the owner.

There’s too many stories coming out.

I’m suspicious of these shipments to England too, seems like a license to print money.

MarkR

Dog was packaged like a turkey crown. Like something from alixpress. Poor family.

TerrorFirmer

Putting aside why the dog died, how he was cared for, and all that.

What they did to him. wrapped him up like a piece of trash in bin liner and scotch tape.

I don't want to say too much on it but if one of my beloved pets was handed back to me like that.....

I hope this place is shut down and blacklisted. That is all I will say.

4068ac1elhodqr

According to the D'Mail this happened way back in December.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6955527/Dog-sitters-tell-owner-pet-died-hand-dead-husky-wrapped-duct-tape.html

Even if it was some virus, a clear bag/wrap and into a large freezer (rented if not available) might have been best.

emmaro

Horrific. This place sounds like a torture house for dogs

katiek102010

I have been following the story since it broke and its heartbreaking

Poor Nova didn't have parvo. Nova had Coilitis and they were told that had the medication to administer twice a day and given instruction. Both verbally and in writing on how to give it. The owners have also not disclosed the vet that seemingly attended to Nova or instructed them verbally.

In the story of the poor lady who's dog seemingly died and was cremated they have refused to speak with her or disclose the vets details who attended and pts her dog without her consent. She is very upset and hoping her dog is still alive somewhere.

Another lady has come forward and said when she got her dog back it was badly hurt. They are trying to make out her dog was in that condition when it went into their care.

Other numerous stories are coming out over pets traumatised when they have come out of there.

Springwell

Parvo virus has very recognizable lesions that are found at post mortem - if the PM was inconclusive, the dog did not have Parvo

Caroleia

anewme wrote: »

Update from Owner:


Now What is asked is... WHAT happened Nova in her final hours?
WHO administered the mediation to Nova or did they?
WHAT was her demeanour in her last hours?
WHY her owners weren't informed?
WHY were they not brought in and shown compassion and respect?
WHY did the owner of the establishment leave in the van on owners arrival?
WHY did someone else to hand the dog out?
WHY was Nova's owner not brought inside?
WHY won't you answer?

imo the owner got a very easy ride on the 9 o'c RTE news-why couldn't he have been asked these very pertinent questions

CosmicFool

Jesus That's horrific. Hope the Kennel is shut down and the owners prosecuted.

katiek102010

Should be hopefully. More and more stories now coming out

anewme

Videos on his website of him using prong collars on dogs. Clearly not an animal lover in any way.

TerrorFirmer

The owners clearly are not animal people, they just see it as a career. I wouldn't mind that, people have to make a living, if it weren't for the utter shocking disrespect for the animals and their owners.

I will be keenly following this case and I can only pray the owner is prosecuted. Scumbag doesn't even begin to cover it.

What happened that poor animal is far closer to a mexican cartel turf war than an empathetic shelter.

I'm speechless at the whole case. It just takes my breath away. I don't condone violence and never do but christ sake, I would understand entirelty if the dog owner visited violence upon the person who did that to their pet.

anewme

Update from Nova s owners.

want to let you all know that what is being said about Nova and the possibility of her having parvovirus while being boarded In P&E Boarding Kennels and Catteryis false. This is a cover up. Nova was checked by my vet two days before going to the kennels and fully vaccinated.

The vaccine certs were shown to the kennels on the day I left her. No professional kennel would allow dogs in for boarding without the dog being vaccinated or seeing the vaccination certs. 
It is not possible for her to have had parvo as she was boarded with my other dog Romeo who is perfectly fine and was kept in the same kennel.

I have results from Novas postmortem confirming that she didn’t have parvovirus. 
I have still yet to be contacted by Paddy or any member of staff.

If the kennels expected parvo why wasn’t this said to me when I arrived to collect Romeo and Nova ?

Why did Paddy xxxxxxx leave in such a rush when we arrived ?

Why are there conflicting statements made by Paddy, saying he was instructed by a vet and in a second statement he instructed a member of staff to package nova in this way himself ?

If it was suspected that Nova was sick while
In their care, why was the contact information given by myself and my vet to the kennels never used ?

Abba987

anewme wrote: »

Update from Nova s owners.

want to let you all know that what is being said about Nova and the possibility of her having parvovirus while being boarded In P&E Boarding Kennels and Catteryis false. This is a cover up. Nova was checked by my vet two days before going to the kennels and fully vaccinated.

The vaccine certs were shown to the kennels on the day I left her. No professional kennel would allow dogs in for boarding without the dog being vaccinated or seeing the vaccination certs. 
It is not possible for her to have had parvo as she was boarded with my other dog Romeo who is perfectly fine and was kept in the same kennel.

I have results from Novas postmortem confirming that she didn’t have parvovirus. 
I have still yet to be contacted by Paddy or any member of staff.

If the kennels expected parvo why wasn’t this said to me when I arrived to collect Romeo and Nova ?

Why did Paddy xxxxxxx leave in such a rush when we arrived ?

Why are there conflicting statements made by Paddy, saying he was instructed by a vet and in a second statement he instructed a member of staff to package nova in this way himself ?

If it was suspected that Nova was sick while
In their care, why was the contact information given by myself and my vet to the kennels never used ?

This is horrific. What is going on ? I've read numerous stories now of other dogs being mistreated and the owner of these kennels will never even speak to dog owners

MrMusician18

anewme wrote: »

Update from Nova s owners.

want to let you all know that what is being said about Nova and the possibility of her having parvovirus while being boarded In P&E Boarding Kennels and Catteryis false. This is a cover up. Nova was checked by my vet two days before going to the kennels and fully vaccinated.

The vaccine certs were shown to the kennels on the day I left her. No professional kennel would allow dogs in for boarding without the dog being vaccinated or seeing the vaccination certs. 
It is not possible for her to have had parvo as she was boarded with my other dog Romeo who is perfectly fine and was kept in the same kennel.

I have results from Novas postmortem confirming that she didn’t have parvovirus. 
I have still yet to be contacted by Paddy or any member of staff.

If the kennels expected parvo why wasn’t this said to me when I arrived to collect Romeo and Nova ?

Why did Paddy xxxxxxx leave in such a rush when we arrived ?

Why are there conflicting statements made by Paddy, saying he was instructed by a vet and in a second statement he instructed a member of staff to package nova in this way himself ?

If it was suspected that Nova was sick while
In their care, why was the contact information given by myself and my vet to the kennels never used ?

I don't think the kennels said that the dog did have Parvo, just that given the sudden nature of it's death there was a risk it may have had the disease and the animal was packaged in the way it was in order to mitigate the risk of potential spread.

kowloon

This makes me want to set up my own Kennel, You'd have to put in effort to be a ****tier kennel owner.

anewme

They knew the dog had collitus, similar symotoms.

Yet the dog had no food or medication in her stomach.

Ass covering by kenell owner, but most seeing through it.

anewme

They knew the dog had collitus, similar symotoms.

Yet the dog had no food or medication in her stomach.

Ass covering by kenell owner, but most seeing through it.

Abba987

What about the dog they had cremated? Without the owner even knowing it was dead.