Local Elections 2019

Brussels Sprout

The local Elections are on in just over a month (Friday May 24th). With the city boundary extension kicking in after this election the ward boundaries of the city have been increased to reflect this change. Despite this vast increase in area there is actually one less ward as the 3 wards on the less populated north side of the city have been merged into 2.

Somewhat oddly, the total number of councillors is due to remain the same for a vastly increased area and population.

The following areas have been transferred from the county to the city:

Rochestown, Douglas, Grange, Donnybrook, Frankfield, Cork Airport, Togher, Ballincollig, Kerry Pike, Tower, Blarney, Killeens, Ballyvolane, White's Cross, and Glanmire

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Total breakdown by party currently is:

FF - 10
SF - 8
FG - 5
AAA -2
WP - 1
Ind - 5

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How do people see this going?
Will you be voting?
Will FG and FF total numbers more reflect national opinion polls afterwards?
Any interesting candidates running that you know of?

Brussels Sprout

Declared candidates by party

Fianna fail
North East - Cllr. Tim Brosnan, Cllr. Kenneth O’Flynn, Martin Dorgan
North West - Cllr. John Sheehan, Sean Coleman, Cllr. Tony Fitzgerald
South Central - Cllr. Sean Martin, Cllr. Tom O’Driscoll
South East - Cllr. Mary Rose Desmond, Cllr. Terry Shannon
South West - Cllr. Fergal Dennehy, Cllr. Daithí O’Donnabháin, Colm Kelleher

Fine Gael
North East - Cllr. Joe Kavanagh, Lorraine O’Neill
North West - Julie O’Leary, Damian Boylan
South Central - Shane O’Callaghan
South East - Cllr. Deirdre Forde, Cllr. Des Cahill
South West - Cllr. PJ Hourican, Cllr. Derry Canty, Sinead Ronan, Garrett Kelleher

Sinn Fein
North East - Cllr. Mick Nugent, Mandy O’Leary-Hegarty
North West - Cllr. Kenneth Collins, Cllr. Thomas Gould, John Stanton
South Central - Cllr. Eoghan Jeffers, Cllr. Fiona Kerins
South East - Cllr. Chris O’Leary
South West - Cllr. Henry Cremin, Eolan Ryng

Green Party
North East - Oliver Moran
North West - Mark Cronin
South Central - Dan Boyle
South East - Lorna Bogue
South West - Colette Finn

Labour party
North East - John Maher
North West - Luke Carroll
South Central - Luke Field
South East - Peter Horgan
South West - Ciara Kennedy

Social Democrats
North East - Sinéad Halpin
South Central - Patricia O’Dwyer
South East - Cllr. Joe Harris
South West - Ciaran McCarthy

Solidarity
North East - Carol Brogan
North West - Fiona Ryan

People Before Profit
South East - Ed Fitzgerald
South West - Tjitske de Vries

Other Parties
North East - Cllr. Ted Tynan WP
North West - Catherine Coffey WP, Martina Murphy HRRA, Finian Toomey Aontú
South East - Anna Daly Aontú, Cllr. Diarmaid Ó Cadhla HRRA
South West - Joanne Murphy Aontú, Shirley Griffin HRRA, Thomas Kiely HRRA

Independents
North East - Sean O’Sullivan, Cllr. Ger Keohane
North West - Joe O’Callaghan
South Central - Cllr. Paudie Dineen, Lekha Menon Margassery, Sean Cronin
South East - Cllr. Kieran McCarthy
South West - Cllr. Thomas Moloney

Retiring Councillors
North East - Stephen Cunningham SF
North West - Marion O’Sullivan SOL
South Central - Tom O’Driscoll FF
South East - Shane O’Shea SF, Laura McGonigle FG, Nicholas O’Keeffe FF
South West - John Buttimer FG, Mary Shields FF


All data taken from adriankavanaghelections.org

Roger Hassenforder

Might throw SD a vote.

Used to vote Green/FG, but im sick of the greens

According to this i should vote FF (76%)
https://ireland.isidewith.com/en/political-quiz

Just couldnt though.

Italix

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Might throw SD a vote.

Used to vote Green/FG, but im sick of the greens

According to this i should vote FF (76%)
https://ireland.isidewith.com/en/political-quiz

Just couldnt though.

I feel some what dirty after doing that quiz.
It said I should vote Green or Sinn Fein, never in a million years.
I'd sell up and leave the country if Sinn Fein were in government.

I'll be giving my vote to FG.

Roger Hassenforder

Italix wrote: »

I feel some what dirty after doing that quiz.
It said I should vote Green or Sinn Fein, never in a million years.
I'd sell up and leave the country if Sinn Fein were in government.

I'll be giving my vote to FG.

SF get in, you can leave your wallet out on the road

chalkitdown1

93% match for a Shinner according to that quiz :vom:

They're all pretty close at the 85-90 mark after that except Renua who were down in the 60's.

Goes to show the problem we have in this country where every main party is virtually identical unless you go into real specifics.

mrpdap

That quiz had me as SDP/SF, would never vote for either
I did the quiz twice, going for the additional questions the second time.
Top three results were the same each time, but dropped from 90% alignment to 80%
Overall, its hard to know who to vote for. Few of the candidates are standing out in any way.

MrDerp

I’m now in the same ward as Rochestown. Anyone got a list of of city and former county councilors that hung out with the M28 steering group or opposed the M28 in any shape or form?

I don’t normally blackball on a single issue, and try to take a measured approach, but I don’t want to accidentally give a vote to anyone who has objected in this case

MrDerp

Jaysus I’ve just spent the morning researching my local candidates (I was in cork co. council area 5 years ago). Grim reading. They all claim to be in favor of a strong Cork economic engine and all then have stood against infrastructure or other initiatives designed to facilitate same.

More than half of non shinners want to block m28. Grim

Cork Trucker

MrDerp wrote: »

Jaysus I’ve just spent the morning researching my local candidates (I was in cork co. council area 5 years ago). Grim reading. They all claim to be in favor of a strong Cork economic engine and all then have stood against infrastructure or other initiatives designed to facilitate same.

More than half of non shinners want to block m28. Grim

The following are who i am aware of either being involved with or attending the fundraiser for the objectors:

Mary Rose Desmond
Jerry Buttimer
Dan Boyle
Lorna Bogue
Micheal Martin

All of the above attended a fundraiser in recent times for them, photos on the M28 Facebook page.

Others i wouldn't vote for even if they were on my patch as they are also opposed to it and have attended steering group meetings are

Marcia Dalton
Seamus McGrath
Michael McGrath


Buttimer seems to be the main one who is very close to them however.

I need to limit how much i say about the motorway directly, there is an open thread over in Legal discussion about that.

I am based in the Wilton/Togher area and will be quizzing them all on their position in regards to this project, that will dictate how i vote. I am pro M28 in its current format, not the proposal of the objectors.

pwurple

Thanks OP, didn’t realise my ward was changing, I am now south east.

I’d consider a vote for anyone except that absolute vandal Diarmuid Ó Cadhla.
How he keeps getting away with illegal signs all over the place, as well as painting over historical signage... ugh. Blood boils at his sense of entitlement.

Roger Hassenforder

Thomas Maloney puts on a great kids evening in Bishopstown on bonfire night.

Worth a vote!

Cork Trucker

pwurple wrote: »

Thanks OP, didn’t realise my ward was changing, I am now south east.

I’d consider a vote for anyone except that absolute vandal Diarmuid Ó Cadhla.
How he keeps getting away with illegal signs all over the place, as well as painting over historical signage... ugh. Blood boils at his sense of entitlement.

His jeep was parked outside Penneys on Friday in the loading bay and displaying a disabled persons blue parking card. It has the big stickers with his picture on the side of it. His gofundeme campaign has only raised 746 euro out of 5000.

MrDerp

Cork Trucker wrote: »

The following are who i am aware of either being involved with or attending the fundraiser for the objectors:

Mary Rose Desmond
Jerry Buttimer
Dan Boyle
Lorna Bogue
Micheal Martin

All of the above attended a fundraiser in recent times for them, photos on the M28 Facebook page.

Others i wouldn't vote for even if they were on my patch as they are also opposed to it and have attended steering group meetings are

Marcia Dalton
Seamus McGrath
Michael McGrath


Buttimer seems to be the main one who is very close to them however.

I need to limit how much i say about the motorway directly, there is an open thread over in Legal discussion about that.

I am based in the Wilton/Togher area and will be quizzing them all on their position in regards to this project, that will dictate how i vote. I am pro M28 in its current format, not the proposal of the objectors.

Cheers,

Appears Deirdre Forde is involved with Buttimer on the ground. Peter Horgan the labour candidate hasn’t said anything directly on social media, but shares steering group posts.

It would appear that my candidates are focused on vehemently defending the status who on just about everything, pitching on local issues - where local issues seems to be confined to anything locals are peeved about.

Jim Gazebo

MrDerp wrote: »

Cheers,

Appears Deirdre Forde is involved with Buttimer on the ground. Peter Horgan the labour candidate hasn’t said anything directly on social media, but shares steering group posts.

It would appear that my candidates are focused on vehemently defending the status who on just about everything, pitching on local issues - where local issues seems to be confined to anything locals are peeved about.

I am now also sucked in here. The likes of buttimer are your real typical politician. Will say anything to get someone on side. Anything against him or fg is sensationalism. He got some kick in the stones when he wasn't elected last time out. Only reason he is even still about is enda Kenny put him in the seanad!!

bells of shandon

I have studied all the candidates of the usual fraternity of chancers belonging to FF/FG/ Liebour. I find no difference in any of their policies.. Our political system is like a freak show of incompetent ,self-serving fools.
I will vote Independent, rather than not vote at all, or spoil my ballot paper.

Really a protest vote against the clowns selling off the country and running it into the ground.

Brussels Sprout

Posters are up this morning around the city

Harika

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Posters are up this morning around the city

Srsly that is so overboarding, there should be legislation to have at least 10 meters between two of the same posters.

Jim Gazebo

Harika wrote: »

Srsly that is so overboarding, there should be legislation to have at least 10 meters between two of the same posters.

Mary Rose Desmond has a poster on pretty much every pole in Douglas. It's insane.

Brussels Sprout

Billy Kelleher's (for the Euros-not the locals) are all over the South Link and the city centre. He must have had an army of people out at midnight.

kingtut

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Billy Kelleher's (for the Euros-not the locals) are all over the South Link and the city centre. He must have had an army of people out at midnight.

Many of the posters were up well before midnight (which is against the law).

Roger Hassenforder

FG in "populist" move:
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/leos-auction-politics-exposed-as-home-tax-plan-shelved-for-votes-38044739.html

They'd be the first to whinge about FF doing it

FG, Lab and the greens can fcuk off.
SF and FF can too.
Im running out of options.

Can we take these bloody election posters down? There's one for sinn feins Fiona Kerins on a pole outside my house. It's basically all we can see now when looking out the living room window. It's extremely annoying.

Mardyke

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Billy Kelleher's (for the Euros-not the locals) are all over the South Link and the city centre. He must have had an army of people out at midnight.

He had two louts putting up posters on the South Ring, at the end of the on-ramp from the Coolroe roundabout. That was at 5.20pm yesterday.

I hit the horn and got a little wave back from one of them.

Interestingly, the posters were gone this morning.

Maybe conscience got the better of them!

So Billy Kelleher was breaking the law it seems?

EnzoScifo

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Billy Kelleher's (for the Euros-not the locals) are all over the South Link and the city centre. He must have had an army of people out at midnight.

They pay fellas with vans cash in hand to put them up. FF & FG even pay the same guys, so you see the bizarre sight of their posters being put up at the same time by the same people!

Dbu

Des Cahills posters in Douglas are ridiculous.
They are massive, the one in Maryborough woods is at least 10 ft by 4ft, are they allowed put posters in housing estates?

j8wk2feszrnpao

Dbu wrote: »

Des Cahills posters in Douglas are crazy.
They are massive, the one in Maryborough woods is at least 10 ft by 4ft, are they allowed put posters in housing estates?

Saw them earlier today on Rochestown Rd, there should a max limit on the size; he’s taking the p!ss.

chalkitdown1

On the N20 between Mallow from Cork there are posters for some woman (I can't even remember her name) on every single pole looking both ways for a stretch of half a mile at Rathduff. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand the point of 100 posters for the same candidate in one place.

The fact that I can't remember her name says how effective they are.

Dbu

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Saw them earlier today on Rochestown Rd, there should a max limit on the size; he’s taking the p!ss.

This is the same guy that complained about a builders sign in Blackrock village being too large a few weeks ago. Lost 4 votes in this house anyway

muffler

bells of shandon wrote: »

I have studied all the candidates of the usual fraternity of chancers belonging to FF/FG/ Liebour. I find no difference in any of their policies.. Our political system is like a freak show of incompetent ,self-serving fools.
I will vote Independent, rather than not vote at all, or spoil my ballot paper.

Really a protest vote against the clowns selling off the country and running it into the ground.

Dont forget your free bog roll :rolleyes:

Itssoeasy

They were up early in the north east ward and more this evening. I means there's two posters from different candidates all the way down the main road in my area out of the city to mayfield. It's madness.

nb74

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

On the N20 between Mallow from Cork there are posters for some woman (I can't even remember her name) on every single pole looking both ways for a stretch of half a mile at Rathduff. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand the point of 100 posters for the same candidate in one place.

Deirdre Clune MEP

the beer revolu

I really wish we'd just agree to ban these posters (made of plastic).
In today's tech age, they are pointless. It would be a level playing field for all candidates.

opus

I'd say there will be a lot less posters around after Storm Hannah gets finished with them! Would agree 100% they should be banned.

Odyssey 2005

opus wrote: »

I'd say there will be a lot less posters around after Storm Hannah gets finished with them! Would agree 100% they should be banned.

Hope your right

EnzoScifo

the beer revolu wrote: »

I really wish we'd just agree to ban these posters (made of plastic).
In today's tech age, they are pointless. It would be a level playing field for all candidates.

Not everyone is online (and the elderly turnout is higher than other age groups) and only bigger parties can afford widespread billboard and transport advertising.

Can't see it levelling the playing field at all.

TrustedApple

I noted that its very hard to work out the locals from the European posters?.

Also I had two at my door so far.

They do the normal vote for me but I reply with why should I vote for you?. One guy spoke to me about the issue I had and is local to me so far he will get a vote.

But the other guy said thats not my issue call this department.

So even if its not your issue you should be able to help me fix the issue!!!.

Like a few years back as the mother and father don't live in Cork but they had a issue. Irish water would not come out and fix it said have to wait 3 days. But the mother called the local counciler and he was up and got it fixed in 3 hours. To me that's what a local counciler is post to do help you on stuff like that. All I know he is getting the number one vote from my mother and father for the help.

the beer revolu

EnzoScifo wrote: »

Not everyone is online (and the elderly turnout is higher than other age groups)

Yes, my mother being a good example. But she watches TV and reads newspapers.
If people are choosing their representatives on the basis of what they look like, we have problems.

Fair point on the billboards, though.

Jim Gazebo

Seen lots of twitter activity from buttimer. I couldn't think of anything worse than a politician at my door in the evening when all you want to do is relax
!!

Brussels Sprout

I received a few flyers but nobody knocked at my door. Anyone meet any of the candidates?

namloc1980

Didn't have a single caller. Got a few flyers in the door alright though.

Roger Hassenforder

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I received a few flyers but nobody knocked at my door. Anyone meet any of the candidates?

I'd 2 canvassers for

Thomas Maloney (no.1 - im giving him the credit for the new bishopstown play ground.) &
P.j.Hourican (FG)

Fantomas9mm

Seen a candidate (complete their with vote no1 poster) on the side of their car about 300m parked from a polling centre.

Is this allowed ?

Italix

Fantomas9mm wrote: »

Seen a candidate (complete their with vote no1 poster) on the side of their car about 300m parked from a polling centre.

Is this allowed ?

50m is the limit, I think.
I know the Solidarity Party on the Northside were flouting the limit today, by a good bit.
Doubt anyone cares thought.

Roger Hassenforder

At the risk of sounding like a shill, but anyway..

Hat tip to Thomas Maloney - taking down his posters at 9.00pm on Melbourn.
Fair play.

Roger Hassenforder

Turnout seemed pretty low going by the names crossed out at 8 in my local.

Junkyard Tom

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/corkcitycouncil/status/1132756432435204096?s=09

Junkyard Tom

Final count, 13th count in Cork City South West #le19 Elected without quota

Garret Kelleher
Thomas Moloney
Henry Cremin.

Delighted for Tom, he really puts in the work in all fairness to him.

Roger Hassenforder

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Final count, 13th count in Cork City South West #le19 Elected without quota

Garret Kelleher
Thomas Moloney
Henry Cremin.

Delighted for Tom, he really puts in the work in all fairness to him.

+1 on Tom M.
A gent.

Does he have much of a "machine" behind him, or is he a one man show I wonder.

Junkyard Tom

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

+1 on Tom M.
A gent.

Does he have much of a "machine" behind him, or is he a one man show I wonder.

No machine at all, just family and friends who help out with canvassing.