Minister claims garda only do breathalyser between 12am and 2am

sexmag

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-queries-garda-agenda-over-breath-tests-on-school-run-37967543.html

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

Do you agree?

Necro

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-queries-garda-agenda-over-breath-tests-on-school-run-37967543.html

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

Do you agree?

Nope. As I said in another thread, if you need to drive the next morning, don't drink.

That's how you avoid it

Guy:Incognito

Handy for the drink drivers . Just hang on in the pub or wherever till after 2. Or leave at half 11.

Odelay

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-queries-garda-agenda-over-breath-tests-on-school-run-37967543.html

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

Do you agree?

Your thread title says “only” where does it say that in the article? Exaggerate much?

banie01

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-queries-garda-agenda-over-breath-tests-on-school-run-37967543.html

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

Do you agree?

Your Thread title says "Minister claims garda only do breathalyser between 12am and 2am"

Let's be clear, that's not at all what he said.
He said he believes that the tests should only be carried out at those times.
He is wrong!
People can be drunk/impaired and choose to drive at anytime and testing for same should never be temporally restricted.

Your thread title seems to imply Garda are only testing between those times as a matter of fact, it's not.

Breath testing and impairment testing is a vital part of road policing and public safety.
If you have been on the booze the night before and drive be it to mass, to school or wherever.
You are taking a decision to risk your own and others safety and are subject to the appropriate tests and sanction.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

There's a "should" missing from your thread title. A completely different story.

Beechwoodspark

I’ve no problem with them doing it 24/7. I have zero time for drink drivers.

kneemos

Peak time for the Guards I'd imagine.

Still waters

get your **** together OP and get the story right

JeffKenna

He said the focus of tests should be between 12 and 2 when people are leaving pubs. He didn't say that's not the only time they should be at.

I think he's right. I've never been tested at night but have been several times the next morning.

Beechwoodspark

JeffKenna wrote: »

He said the focus of tests should be between 12 and 2 when people are leaving pubs. He didn't say that's not the only time they should be at.

I think he's right. I've never been tested at night but have been several times the next morning.

Would you drive after a night in the pub?

suicide_circus

when do drink drivers cause deaths? if its during morning rush hour then thats when the test checkpoints should be done.

JeffKenna

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Would you drive after a night in the pub?

Yes but I wouldn't drink naturally.

If I did however I'd have got away with it every time.

kneemos

suicide_circus wrote: »

when do drink drivers cause deaths? if its during morning rush hour then thats when the test checkpoints should be done.

Probably a deterrent effect whenever they do it. As I say,do they have time for checkpoints at night?
Have met a few though,even a couple in the early hours.

suicide_circus

kneemos wrote: »

Probably a deterrent effect whenever they do it. As I say,do they have time for checkpoints at night?
Have met a few though,even a couple in the early hours.

the purpose of drink driving laws is to save lives. drink driving checkpoints should be in place during times when drink drivers statistically cause deaths. am i wrong?

Mebuntu

suicide_circus wrote: »

the purpose of drink driving laws is to save lives. drink driving checkpoints should be in place during times when drink drivers statistically cause deaths. am i wrong?

Yes, you are wrong. If you are over the limit at any time you shouldn't be driving. If checks are being done only during "statistics time" then people will be happy to take their chances during other times.

JeffKenna

Mebuntu wrote: »

Yes, you are wrong. If you are over the limit at any time you shouldn't be driving. If checks are being done only during "statistics time" then people will be happy to take their chances during other times.

That's what people are doing now however. I know a number of people who are more than happy to drive home after a few pints but won't drive the next morning. Crazy situation due to a poor policy from the guards.

suicide_circus

Mebuntu wrote: »

Yes, you are wrong. If you are over the limit at any time you shouldn't be driving. If checks are being done only during "statistics time" then people will be happy to take their chances during other times.

what?

why would you not target the times at which people are being killed?

orourkeda1977

jam_mac_jam

Just don't drink and drive anytime and you won't have to worry. If you are still under the influence the next morning then you shouldn't be driving. It's very simple. I do not get this obsession with the time they are breathalysing obviously they are catching people at other times or they wouldn't do it.

jam_mac_jam

suicide_circus wrote: »

Mebuntu wrote: »

Yes, you are wrong. If you are over the limit at any time you shouldn't be driving. If checks are being done only during "statistics time" then people will be happy to take their chances during other times.

what?

why would you not target the times at which people are being killed?

What statistics?

batgoat

suicide_circus wrote: »

what?

why would you not target the times at which people are being killed?

If you target solely those times, then you would have people who assume they can get away with driving while drunk under the other hours. It's not exactly difficult to work out.

mynamejeff

I used to actually have a little it of time for Mattie Mcgrath because of his common sense approach but this is just a pathetic attempt by a gombeen parish pump political whore to be stoke himself some rural populism with an election of the horizon.

or might be he just doesn't like the garda following his prosecution for a drunken assault and unsuccessful complaint to GSOC.


this is a lad who wanted a no vole on abortion and gay marriage and opposed bans for drink drivers

Also gas that the former teacher turned politician comes out with this .

"A police force - like teachers, nurses - guards should always be non-political," Mr McGrath says.

Although i do agree that the gardai should be totally independent of the whims of the government of the day, there would be less interference by idiots like shane ross and politicians would have to look over thier shoulder every time they are up to dodgy dealings

mynamejeff

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What statistics?

https://www.drinkdriversdestroylives.ie/the-morning-after-what-happens/

that was easy

Allinall

Thread title fail.

.
. . Thread fail.

jam_mac_jam

mynamejeff wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What statistics?

https://www.drinkdriversdestroylives.ie/the-morning-after-what-happens/

Which proves my point that they should check at all times

suicide_circus

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

mynamejeff wrote: »

https://www.drinkdriversdestroylives.ie/the-morning-after-what-happens/

Which proves my point that they should check at all times

indeed but focusing on the times with most deaths. i have only ever seen checkpoints in the mornings.

Pherekydes

mynamejeff wrote: »

I used to actually have a little it of time for Mattie Mcgrath because of his common sense approach but this is just a pathetic attempt by a gombeen parish pump political whore to be stoke himself some rural populism with an election of the horizon.

Finian!

That is all.

Franz Von Peppercorn

suicide_circus wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

indeed but focusing on the times with most deaths. i have only ever seen checkpoints in the mornings.

That link didn’t specify how many drink driving accidents were from the morning after.

Probably stopping people in slow rush hour traffic isn’t much use anyway precisely because slow traffic doesn’t lead to too many serious accidents.

Necro

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

https://www.drinkdriversdestroylives.ie/the-morning-after-what-happens/

Which proves my point that they should check at all times

They do test at all times. Ignore the single accounts here of never seeing them test.

My work deals with the putting on of the various tests and other incidents and I can assure you, they test:

Late at night
Early in the morning

And also as people are going home from work.

It's mostly a preventative measure and they also check for other things on the checkpoints, such as tax, insurance etc.

But they do test all day, and they are correct to do so.

jam_mac_jam

suicide_circus wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

mynamejeff wrote: »

https://www.drinkdriversdestroylives.ie/the-morning-after-what-happens/

Which proves my point that they should check at all times

indeed but focusing on the times with most deaths. i have only ever seen checkpoints in the mornings.

They don't focus on the mornings. I have seen then in the evening. The only time I have been in a car that was stopped was a Saturday afternoon about 6.

People are being killed in the morning so they should also breathylise then

Guy:Incognito

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

i have only ever seen checkpoints in the mornings.

For the most part, Id imagine that, with vastly less traffic on the road, its much easier for Gardai to just patrol around at night in different spots and see people that look like they are driving drunk then pull them , rather than set up a checkpoint that ends up on facebook/being phoned in by "helpful" people who dont want to see drunks get caught.

Ive been through plenty of night time checkpoints. Not all specifically for drink/drugs testing but I'm sure if they get any sort of incling you should be tested, theyll do it.

Sleeper12

sexmag wrote:

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

I see men in the pub on a Friday afternoon sinking 4 to 6 pints and then driving home in time for dinner. I have seen parents drink driving in the afternoon after conformation, communions, christenings etc. There are tons of younger drivers in Dublin on a Saturday & Sunday morning driving after being out all night drinking and drugging.

Having Checkpoints only between 12am and 2am is like only having speed vans for two hours a day. I do agree that there should be more checkpoints between 11pm and 5am but there should always be the chance that you get caught drink driving at any time night or day

jam_mac_jam

I would say afternoons and early evening after pints and lunch is a huge time. Very few people would drive after a night of drinking a load but in the day it's more likely as you've only had a few so more likely. People drink at other times then nights

Sleeper12

Graces7 wrote:

many such references if you google.

You know that you can't believe anything Healy Rae says. He believes that only God controls the environment and there is no global warming. He also believes that motorists should be allowed to have Three pints & still drive. He wants country people to be able to drink more and then drive than in the cities. Of course he is a publican

Dr Brown

I was stopped by the old bill a few weeks ago at 630pm at a drink driving checkpoint.

What a joke as if anyone is going to be drink driving at 630pm!

Guy:Incognito

Dr Brown wrote: »

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What a joke as if anyone is going to be drink driving at 6pm!

Nothing to worry about so.

Strumms

sexmag wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-queries-garda-agenda-over-breath-tests-on-school-run-37967543.html

"To me, the breathalysing time should be at pub closing time between 12 o'clock and 2am in the morning. That's where the focus should be, so I don't know what agenda is going on there," he adds"

Do you agree?

He is a fûcking tosser. Because nobody has ever been breathalysed and subsequently convicted of drink driving during the day or outside that two hour window . A fella like that should have all privileges removed including the ability to fûckin breathe. What agenda is going on there ? Seriously :rolleyes:

Pherekydes

Dr Brown wrote: »

I was stopped by the old bill a few weeks ago at 630pm at a drink driving checkpoint.

What a joke as if anyone is going to be drink driving at 630pm!

Any other times, or just at half six?

Strumms

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I would say afternoons and early evening after pints and lunch is a huge time. Very few people would drive after a night of drinking a load but in the day it's more likely as you've only had a few so more likely. People drink at other times then nights

Yes people who work nights often to help sleep will knock a couple of beers back. Could easily walk out of a pub at the start of lunchtime and into a car having finished a shift and had a couple. To a genuine alcoholic what time the clock shows does not matter. To be honest I’d rather a fella with a couple of pints and drive at 1am rather then 1pm when schools are kicking out and there is traffic and people about a plenty. Obviously the wish is people wouldn’t combine the two at all...any time of day OR night.

Edgware

I know people who hit the pub 11am. Have a few pints, nip into bookies. Home for a while, drop back for a few more in the afternoon. Check the bookies and home for the night.
McGrath is a gob****e. If you drink don't drive. If you drive don't speed.
The graveyards of this country are full of the victims of drunk drivers and speedsters

Cee-Jay-Cee

OP fails miserably at creating a title for a story they only half read.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more than that to a Shiite thread.

Sheep breeder

Dr Brown wrote: »

I was stopped by the old bill a few weeks ago at 630pm at a drink driving checkpoint.

What a joke as if anyone is going to be drink driving at 630pm!

In the local pub every evening you have lads coming in sink 4 to 5 pints and go home at 6 to 7 o’clock and get away with it for years. Joke how the same lads do it and the poor fool who goes out Saturday night and gets the taxi home and can be done the next morning at 9 or 10 o’clock.

Killinator

Dr Brown wrote: »

I was stopped by the old bill a few weeks ago at 630pm at a drink driving checkpoint.

What a joke as if anyone is going to be drink driving at 630pm!

3 weeks ago I was involved in an accident with a driver caused he was pissed at 4.30pm!
People are perfectly able to be completely selfish pr**ks at any time of day

Noo

I got tested at 8am the morning on the way to work, after some big sports event the night before (which I had no interest in so had not been drinking). Also got testing coming off a car ferry at 4 in the afternoon after a long weekend, this ferry came from a national park island where people camp and have accommodation for the long weekend. I hadn't drank so wasn't an issue.

Some people may complain about the above testing, but the cops must've made a killing!

Cabaal

Noo wrote: »

Some people may complain about the above testing, but the cops must've made a killing!

Which of courseiis better then a drunk driver making a killing....

Noo

Cabaal wrote: »

Which of courseiis better then a drunk driver making a killing....

Absolutely, I thought it was genius!