The importance of Breakfast

Weltsmertz

Why is breakfast so important? - Highlights from The Pat Kenny Show - The Pat Kenny Show - https://www.newstalk.com//podcasts/highlights-from-the-pat-kenny-show/why-is-breakfast-so-important


Listening to a podcast on Pat Kenny show in which Prof Gibney a nutritionist from UCD spoke of the importance of eating breakfast. Particularly how parents should give sugary cereals to children. Pat agreed with everything he said.
Mmmm. Clicked on Google image. The esteemed and renowned nutritionist seems seems to be a little overweight. Clicked on another link and found where the independent expert gets his money.


Prof Gibney does consultancy work with Nestlé, chairs the International Breakfast Research Consortium funded by Cereal Partners Worldwide, leads a project on the developing food serving sizes for use in the EU funded by Mondelez, PepsiCo, Unilever, Nestlé, and Coca-Cola, and is on the board of directors of ILSI Europe.

pleas advice

He should go on the Ray Darcy show, Ray would be sure to hit all the right buttons, get him talking, press him on the nutritional value of 'breakfast cereals' versus porridge, yer man would be running in no time

The breakfast being the most important meal of the day thing is a scam. It's the only one that people might skip.

Who wants a started metabolism just so you're more starving at lunch? More calories in the morning, and more at lunch.

gctest50

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https://mobile.twitter.com/sineadgibney

gctest50

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.2003460

pleas advice

It's mad that modern humans have been around for forty thousand years, and we still don't know how to eat properly...

gctest50

Sugar industry in America threatening to get WHO funding cut


http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/458188-sugar-association-letter-to-who-april-2003.html

whiskeyman

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Particularly how parents should give sugary cereals to children.

Deleted User wrote: »

The breakfast being the most important meal of the day thing is a scam. It's the only one that people might skip.
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Ask any teacher in a disadvantaged school the effect of the kids who are sent in with no breakfast.
Sone actually fall asleep during class they've simply no energy.
I am not sure about the sugar thing, but kids definitely needed the energy in the morning.

sbsquarepants

Maybe it's different for young kids, but I'd be surprised if I've eaten 30 breakfasts in the past 30 years, I'm 44 now and as healthy as any man on this planet!

You can get by perfectly fine without a breakfast of any description.

silverharp

whiskeyman wrote: »

Ask any teacher in a disadvantaged school the effect of the kids who are sent in with no breakfast.
Sone actually fall asleep during class they've simply no energy.
I am not sure about the sugar thing, but kids definitely needed the energy in the morning.

Its a cycle if bad eating though, their meal the night before will have been a pizza or some other processed garbage and a 2 ltr bottle of coke. They are just on a cycle of duhsr highs and lows

EmmetSpiceland

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Listening to a podcast on Pat Kenny show in which Prof Gibney a nutritionist from UCD spoke of the importance of eating breakfast. Particularly how parents should give sugary cereals to children. Pat agreed with everything he said

Did he not say that sugary cereals are better than nothing? Not exactly promoting it.

jam_mac_jam

A lot of children won’t eat porridge. Sugary cereal is not going to kill them. Not ideal yes but Kids get energy and are not going to die if they eat some sugar.

if you can get them to eat Weetabix or an egg all the better but really there are worse things to be worried about in the world then kids eating some frosties.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The breakfast being the most important meal of the day thing is a scam. It's the only one that people might skip.

Who wants a started metabolism just so you're more starving at lunch? More calories in the morning, and more at lunch.

More calories at breakfast and lunch means you will work them off during the day.

The evening meal is the one to skip if you must.

whiskeyman

whiskeyman wrote: »

Ask any teacher in a disadvantaged school the effect of the kids who are sent in with no breakfast.
Sone actually fall asleep during class they've simply no energy.
I am not sure about the sugar thing, but kids definitely needed the energy in the morning.

That I'll accept. For adults, I find it different. A good few of us eat our first meal at 12 while the breakfast eaters are ravenous.

completedit

People overthink food too much, I think it's a byproduct of America. In Europe kids eat sugary breakfasts and they're not the worst for it.

BrokenArrows

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Maybe it's different for young kids, but I'd be surprised if I've eaten 30 breakfasts in the past 30 years, I'm 44 now and as healthy as any man on this planet!

You can get by perfectly fine without a breakfast of any description.

I was the same. Never ate breakfast in the morning.

Met my wife and she was a breakfast person. Shockingly my belly has appeared gradually over the past few years since ive started eating breakfast. those extra 150ish calories every morning add up gradually.

I decided a few days ago to go back to no breakfast.

I do however agree that kids need breakfast for energy in school. However breakfast should not be a sugar laced cereal. Instead it should be some proper food. Soft Boiled Egg with some soda bread solders, porridge, or even some basic bran style cereal with minimal sugar.

If a kid becomes overweight as a child they are guaranteed to spend the rest of their life struggling with weight gain.

A thin child will be a thin adult in most cases.

AtomicHorror

pleas advice wrote: »

It's mad that modern humans have been around for forty thousand years, and we still don't know how to eat properly...

We mostly still eat as if meat is hard to get and fats and sugars are rare and precious. We eat like we'll wake at 5am and go hunting or to the fields and not rest for 10-12 hours. For most of the last 40,000 years that was all true. It's only the last few hundred years that our technology and lifestyle have fallen out of line with our culture and biology.

Culture changes slowly, biology even slower. Can't expect to course correct on millions of years of evolutionary momentum inside 200 years.

sbsquarepants

kneemos wrote: »

More calories at breakfast and lunch means you will work them off during the day.

The evening meal is the one to skip if you must.

It's not like there's an inbuilt calorie tally that gets reset at some arbitrary time each day. Morning calories, evening calories, middle of the night calories - your body doesn't discriminate between them!

Fifty grades of shay.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

It's not like there's an inbuilt calorie tally that gets reset at some arbitrary time each day. Morning calories, evening calories, middle of the night calories - your body doesn't discriminate between them!

But it does, if you eat earlier and you're awake, even lounging on the couch, your body uses more calories up than it does when you sleep.
There's more calories turned to fat while you sleep than there is while youre alert and awake basically.

JohnnyFlash

I can’t function without my breakfast - a large coffee and two Marlboro Reds.

Grayson

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Maybe it's different for young kids, but I'd be surprised if I've eaten 30 breakfasts in the past 30 years, I'm 44 now and as healthy as any man on this planet!

You can get by perfectly fine without a breakfast of any description.

I eat breakfast when I'm in work. they have a free snack program with loads of fruit. So I grab a banana about 11am. Really the only reason for that is that my tummy starts rumbling and it's about time that i should eat.
Besides that it's the occasional fry up as a treat. I am a fan of breakfast for lunch or even dinner.

JohnnyFlash

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t function without my breakfast - a large coffee and two Marlboro Reds.

Or the caffeine-codeine combo when it's all gone to shlt.

Grayson

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t function without my breakfast - a large coffee and two Marlboro Reds.

If coffee and nicotine counts, the I have breakfast everyday within 5 minutes of getting up.

sbsquarepants

Fifty grades of shay. wrote: »

But it does, if you eat earlier and you're awake, even lounging on the couch, your body uses more calories up than it does when you sleep.
There's more calories turned to fat while you sleep than there is while youre alert and awake basically.

No matter what way you look at it comes down to a simple equation of calories consumed minus calories used - overall, not per day, per hour, per lunar month or per anything else.

If you eat more than you need you'll put on weight, if you eat less than you need you'll loose weight. It really is as simple as that.

Nutrition obviously is a lot more complicated than that, but weight loss / gain is as simple as it comes. Problem is - simple won't sell books, so bolloxology it is!

Grayson

Deleted User wrote: »

Or the caffeine-codeine combo when it's all gone to shlt.

I used to do that until it became impossible to get nurofen plus. I walked in hanging one day. I was on my way to work and needed that codeine goodness to feel human. The pharmacist said a hangover didn't count and offered me paracetamol. Why does self inflicted pain mean less than any other type? Paracetamol me arse (that's not a request).

Grayson

Grayson wrote: »

I used to do that until it became impossible to get nurofen plus. I walked in hanging one day. I was on my way to work and needed that codeine goodness to feel human. The pharmacist said a hangover didn't count and offered me paracetamol. Why does self inflicted pain mean less than any other type? Paracetamol me arse (that's not a request).

Paracetamol is better than nothing. Where I am, I can get a 30mg codeine 500mg paracetamol pack nay problem. Google tells me Nurofen plus is only 12mg codeine.

Haven't done it in ages but it used to keep me in action. People were addicted.

joe40

If you can skip breakfast or eat later it is the easiest way to give your body a reasonable "fast" which is beneficial.

For me personally a small breakfast or a large breakfast doesn't seem affect hunger levels at lunchtime.

Or as someone once said "no point waking up annie-appetite before you have to"

joe40

joe40 wrote: »

If you can skip breakfast or eat later it is the easiest way to give your body a reasonable "fast" which is beneficial.

For me personally a small breakfast or a large breakfast doesn't seem affect hunger levels at lunchtime.

Or as someone once said "no point waking up annie-appetite before you have to"

Was chatting to a friend on a fasting diet of X amount of hours. Realised that on at least four days a week, I'm following that fast. Most weeks, every day even.

Anyways, I'm 31 and even with an embarrassing amount of alcohol, I'm looking grand. Haven't changed Jean size in 15 years.


At 11.30, I'm fine and have a bit of lunch at 12 when I'm hungry. The breakfast eaters are beyond starving and eat way more.

Del2005

BrokenArrows wrote: »

I was the same. Never ate breakfast in the morning.

Met my wife and she was a breakfast person. Shockingly my belly has appeared gradually over the past few years since ive started eating breakfast. those extra 150ish calories every morning add up gradually.

I decided a few days ago to go back to no breakfast.

I do however agree that kids need breakfast for energy in school. However breakfast should not be a sugar laced cereal. Instead it should be some proper food. Soft Boiled Egg with some soda bread solders, porridge, or even some basic bran style cereal with minimal sugar.

If a kid becomes overweight as a child they are guaranteed to spend the rest of their life struggling with weight gain.

A thin child will be a thin adult in most cases.

The 1st meal after you wake up is breakfast so you always ate breakfast.

You're problem, and every other overweight person, is that you stated eating more energy than you burnt not that you started eating a meal in the morning.

Sabrebo

Greek yoghurt, banana and honey.

magic_murph

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Maybe it's different for young kids, but I'd be surprised if I've eaten 30 breakfasts in the past 30 years, I'm 44 now and as healthy as any man on this planet!

You can get by perfectly fine without a breakfast of any description.

Random man on internet - correct
Science - incorrect.

silverharp

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No matter what way you look at it comes down to a simple equation of calories consumed minus calories used - overall, not per day, per hour, per lunar month or per anything else.

If you eat more than you need you'll put on weight, if you eat less than you need you'll loose weight. It really is as simple as that.

Nutrition obviously is a lot more complicated than that, but weight loss / gain is as simple as it comes. Problem is - simple won't sell books, so bolloxology it is!

the thing is adherence , willpower is overrated and I'd generally bet against someone's "willpower" , not all calories are "equal" in terms of how the body reacts to them, satiety issues. Nobody craves steak and eggs after they have had an evening meals but some people wont be "happy" until they have demolished a large bag or Doritos or gone through half a box of coco puffs on top of their dinner.
So its all well and good saying eat less move more but you aren't telling anybody something they don't know

orourkeda1977

It helps replace the vitamins that you wanked out the night before

silverharp

magic_murph wrote: »

Random man on internet - correct
Science - incorrect.

if there is anywhere science has been weak is nutrition. The more you look into it the shakier it looks, vested interests, poor studies etc.

Deebles McBeebles

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

It helps replace the vitamins that you wanked out the night before

So you're saying, breakfast is for ****?

I think for kids it's probably different, and for adults, it'll be whatever keeps you happy and not snacking.
I like eggs or porridge for brekky

silverharp

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

So you're saying, breakfast is for ****?

oddly enough Kellogs was designed to stop wank1ng

sbsquarepants

silverharp wrote: »

the thing is adherence , willpower is overrated and I'd generally bet against someone's "willpower" , not all calories are "equal" in terms of how the body reacts to them, satiety issues. Nobody craves steak and eggs after they have had an evening meals but some people wont be "happy" until they have demolished a large bag or Doritos or gone through half a box of coco puffs on top of their dinner.
So its all well and good saying eat less move more but you aren't telling anybody something they don't know

Fully agree with you. But knowing and doing aren't the same thing, and people in general are weak, lazy and greedy. (myself included - my own a particular weakness is for beer and peanuts!)

You can lie to yourself, your missus, your friends and whoever else you want, but you cannot lie to your body - you over fill it and it's going to show. Eat too much and you'll get fat.

A tiny proportion of people are fat due to medication or glandular issues or so on - I don't know exactly what that proportion is but I'd say it's only in the region of 1%

For the other 99% there's just no if's ands or buts - if you are fat, it's simply because you eat too much.

But people don't want to hear that, they'd rather be victims than gluttons!

silverharp

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Fully agree with you. But knowing and doing aren't the same thing, and people in general are weak, lazy and greedy. (myself included - my own a particular weakness is for beer and peanuts!)

You can lie to yourself, your missus, your friends and whoever else you want, but you cannot lie to your body - you over fill it and it's going to show. Eat too much and you'll get fat.

A tiny proportion of people are fat due to medication or glandular issues or so on - I don't know exactly what that proportion is but I'd say it's only in the region of 1%

For the other 99% there's just no if's ands or buts - if you are fat, it's simply because you eat too much.

But people don't want to hear that, they'd rather be victims than gluttons!

would tell someone with an alcohol problem that they are p1ssheads and just stop drinking? the majority of people that are obese today wouldn't have been obese 50 years ago. On the face of it the food we eat has changed faster then we have had time to adapt. there are a lot of players in this

sbsquarepants

silverharp wrote: »

would tell someone with an alcohol problem that they are p1ssheads and just stop drinking?

Sounds like sound advice to me!

What would you tell them?

sbsquarepants

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Sounds like sound advice to me!

What would you tell them?

Taper.

topper75

Anyone see Fíorscéal on TG4 last week?

Brilliant exposé of the bad science around heart health. Dodgy linking with cholesterol. Dodgy dealings by U.S. sugar lobby to disconnect sugar with heart disease skyrocketing.

sbsquarepants

In other words drink less!

It's all down to quantity - there's a certain level of drinking which is perfectly fine, few beers here and there, no problem whatsoever, few beers every day, getting worse, bottle of vodka for breakfast - probably time to make a change.

If you could be disciplined enough to go back to the few beers every now and then, you'd be fine to do that - problem is practically nobody can, so the only answer is abstinence.

Not really an option with food though, and that's why so many people are so fat. They have no choice but to constantly expose themselves to triggers and most lack the discipline to go back to the food equivalent of the odd beer.

Education is a key thing also - a lot of people have no real idea of what they are eating, they buy mass produced shít and shove it down their throats without a seconds thought. Kraft or Nestle or whoever do not have your best interests at heart, just like either do Smirnoff or Diageo - they want your money, not your health or your happiness.

You need to look out for you as best you can - nobody else is going to do it for you, and if you fail to do so, it is you who will pay the price. That's just an unavoidable fact of life.

Thanked whilst pissed out of my tree.

sbsquarepants

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanked whilst pissed out of my tree.

:D

Bet you'd love a kebab and a big greasy bag of chips now!

sbsquarepants

sbsquarepants wrote: »

:D

Bet you'd love a kebab and a big greasy bag of chips now!

My two biggest things I miss from back home are a filthy fish and chips, and a Guinness. I can get neither now so we'll carry on. Bed soon.

sbsquarepants

It's hard to beat a nice fresh cod and chips, loads of vinegar!

I predict a trip to the chipper for myself in the next few days:D

Right now I'm chowing down on a kiwi, a banana and a pear for my lunch. It's nice, it's healthy, but it's also not a chipper!

completedit

People overthink everything, some of the lunches you see in offices nowadays. Just eat a bleeding normal sandwich ffs

sbsquarepants

Was never mad for sandwiches.

AtomicHorror

BrokenArrows wrote: »

I was the same. Never ate breakfast in the morning.

Met my wife and she was a breakfast person. Shockingly my belly has appeared gradually over the past few years since ive started eating breakfast. those extra 150ish calories every morning add up gradually.

You blaming breakfast for the grey hairs and developing wrinkles too? :pac:

Yester

Eat when you're hungry, drink when you're dry.