New Developments in Malahide

malahidebound

I'd appreciate any feedback on detached new homes available in Malahide and which ones are worth a look. How does Ashwood Hall compare against Clairville Lodge?

malahidebound

malahidebound wrote: »

I'd appreciate any feedback on detached new homes available in Malahide and which ones are worth a look. How does Ashwood Hall compare against Clairville Lodge?

Anyone?

I don't know anything about the houses themselves but I'd probably prefer the location of Ashwood.

Homer

Sean Blue Fork wrote: »

I don't know anything about the houses themselves but I'd probably prefer the location of Ashwood.

It’s certainly a much closer location to the village and the castle, albeit on a much busier road.

devlinio

Why did you remove the links?

malahidebound

devlinio wrote: »

Why did you remove the links?

I created a new account to ask a question. However, there’s a restriction on the ability of new accounts to include links. Here they are but you’ll need to add the www. part before them

Ashwood Hall;
myhome.ie/residential/brochure/the-wellesley-ashwood-hall-back-road-malahide-county-dublin/4303177

Clairville Lodge:
myhome.ie/residential/brochure/clairville-lodge-off-streamstown-lane-malahide-county-dublin/4089290

Pkiernan

Malahide just can't be beaten.

No scumbags AND no Southside ponces.

Best of both worlds!

devlinio

malahidebound wrote: »

I created a new account to ask a question. However, there’s a restriction on the ability of new accounts to include links. Here they are but you’ll need to add the www. part before them

Ashwood Hall;
myhome.ie/residential/brochure/the-wellesley-ashwood-hall-back-road-malahide-county-dublin/4303177

Clairville Lodge:
myhome.ie/residential/brochure/clairville-lodge-off-streamstown-lane-malahide-county-dublin/4089290

Great thanks.

Pkiernan wrote: »

Malahide just can't be beaten.

No scumbags AND no Southside ponces.

Best of both worlds!

Agreed. When I'm buying in a couple of years, I'll probably buy an apartment in Baldoyle. I socialise in Malahide, but I can't afford to live there (yet ). So on the Dart line will have to suffice.

2 beds are around the 230 - 250K mark here.

basill

Malahide just can't be beaten.

No scumbags AND no Southside ponces.

Best of both worlds!

Except when the sun is shining and the yobs pop over for a day trip. Oh and when the Mancunian loud mouth idiot is doing a concert in the Castle.

Barelysane2019

I think they’ll all insanely priced.

The Clairville ones have been on the market for ages and don’t seem to be shifting. They’re lovely but not great value. They don’t include a washer dryer in the utility rooms (I mean for 900k that’s a bit of a joke), the internal doors have single pane glass which you’d have to replace with small kids and the stoves in the fireplaces are wood burning only - no coal. The aspect of these houses has a huge impact on price - north facing only for 900k. The access to these isn’t great - you wouldn’t walk down that lane in the dark. However, the development is in the catchment area for St Sylvesters (if schools matter).

Ashwood Hall has a better location and we thought it looked amazing! Advertised as an exclusive development of 56 houses and they are priced as such. There is a huge drawback though that nobody seems to be talking about. There is planning permission for not only a second phase but also a huge number of houses directly below the new ones. There’ll be a road going through the estate (passing the 1.2m 5 beds) and down to the new houses, coming out onto Kinsealy lane. They’re big houses but will they hold their value if there are hundreds more around them? Check out the fingal coco website for details of the plans....

There are a couple of houses left in Hazelbrook which are a much better value but a little smaller and further out (30mins walk to the village). They are not in the Malahide catchment area for any of the schools.....

Cyrus

Barelysane2019 wrote: »

I think they’ll all insanely priced.

The Clairville ones have been on the market for ages and don’t seem to be shifting. They’re lovely but not great value. They don’t include a washer dryer in the utility rooms (I mean for 900k that’s a bit of a joke), the internal doors have single pane glass which you’d have to replace with small kids and the stoves in the fireplaces are wood burning only - no coal. The aspect of these houses has a huge impact on price - north facing only for 900k. The access to these isn’t great - you wouldn’t walk down that lane in the dark. However, the development is in the catchment area for St Sylvesters (if schools matter).

Ashwood Hall has a better location and we thought it looked amazing! Advertised as an exclusive development of 56 houses and they are priced as such. There is a huge drawback though that nobody seems to be talking about. There is planning permission for not only a second phase but also a huge number of houses directly below the new ones. There’ll be a road going through the estate (passing the 1.2m 5 beds) and down to the new houses, coming out onto Kinsealy lane. They’re big houses but will they hold their value if there are hundreds more around them? Check out the fingal coco website for details of the plans....

There are a couple of houses left in Hazelbrook which are a much better value but a little smaller and further out (30mins walk to the village). They are not in the Malahide catchment area for any of the schools.....

56 houses exclusive

pet hate of mine is houses with premium pricing in red brick where the render half of it, penny pinching ....

Cyrus

Pkiernan wrote: »

Malahide just can't be beaten.

No scumbags AND no Southside ponces.

Best of both worlds!

its no dalkey:pac:

johndoeoreilly

Ashwood hall and Brookfield Developments in Malahide back road are in the direct flight path for 2nd runway at Dublin Airport. They want flights running all through the night so i would say it will be very noisy during the day and at night.

See links below:

irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/dublin-airport-renews-offer-to-buy-houses-for-runway-plan-1.2717406

ycharts.com/indicators/10_year_3_month_treasury_spread

The US Treasury use the 10 year 3 month and 10 year 2 year bond yields as their barometer for a recession which is currently over 40% for a recession in 2020. The 10 year 3 month and 10 year 2 year bond yields went inverted in August 2019 which has predicted the last 5-6 recessions

seekingalpha.com/article/4294331-u-s-yield-curve-reliably-predicts-u-s-recessions

I would say prices will drop after BREXIT and recession in 2020,
Brookfield Development pretty much the same house as Ashwood Hall but cheaper and is priced less than Ashwood Hall, wonder why?? overpriced???

I won't be buying any new house until 2020 when developers and estate agents will be biting the hand off cash buyers!!! Cash ready but not willing to pay list price. #negotiate

johndoeoreilly

johndoeoreilly wrote: »

Ashwood hall and Brookfield Developments in Malahide back road are in the direct flight path for 2nd runway at Dublin Airport. They want flights running all through the night so i would say it will be very noisy during the day and at night.

See links below:

irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/dublin-airport-renews-offer-to-buy-houses-for-runway-plan-1.2717406

ycharts.com/indicators/10_year_3_month_treasury_spread

The US Treasury use the 10 year 3 month and 10 year 2 year bond yields as their barometer for a recession which is currently over 40% for a recession in 2020. The 10 year 3 month and 10 year 2 year bond yields went inverted in August 2019 which has predicted the last 5-6 recessions

seekingalpha.com/article/4294331-u-s-yield-curve-reliably-predicts-u-s-recessions

I would say prices will drop after BREXIT and recession in 2020,
Brookfield Development pretty much the same house as Ashwood Hall but cheaper and is priced less than Ashwood Hall, wonder why?? overpriced???

I won't be buying any new house until 2020 when developers and estate agents will be biting the hand off cash buyers!!! Cash ready but not willing to pay list price. #negotiate

Prices have already dropped by €25,000 in two weeks since launch. It’s on daft.ie

johndoeoreilly

johndoeoreilly wrote: »

Prices have already dropped by €25,000 in two weeks since launch. It’s on daft.ie

dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/north-runway-downloads/consultation-on-flight-paths-and-change-to-permitted-operations.pdf?sfvrsn=63261c6e_2

Check out page 10 for the flight paths to the 2nd runway at Dublin Airport

Barelysane2019

Thanks for this - very interesting! Not sure I’m reading it right but it looks like this runway would also impact the estates on the other side of the village like Seapark?

The builder has built a few of the new estates like Castleway and Ashwood hall and they’ve now moved on to Brookfield. All of the other estates have had large houses with the smallest being around 1700 sq ft. The Brookfield houses are much smaller (from 1200 sq ft) than the rest and mostly a mix of 3 and 4 bed semis.

Im curious as to where the builder has met their 10% social housing obligations on these new developments....

johndoeoreilly

Recession is now a certainty. Won’t be buying a house until developers get real with prices. Prices will drop by 20-30%
Ashwood hall and Brookfield Malahide overpriced
Will struggle to sell at the current prices.

KingoftheSpoof

Lots of houses still available so will be interesting to see how it pans out.

3 beds at 620k is insane money

I think most of Ashwood Hall sold for around 600k for the 4 beds

brisan

Pkiernan wrote: »

Malahide just can't be beaten.

No scumbags AND no Southside ponces.

Best of both worlds!

You have obviously never been there Fri ,Sat night ,during the communion season or on a bank holiday weekend

Pkiernan

brisan wrote: »

You have obviously never been there Fri ,Sat night ,during the communion season or on a bank holiday weekend

Jealousy is a cruel mistress...

brisan

Pkiernan wrote: »

Jealousy is a cruel mistress...

Considering I live in the Casino I dont get your point

Smouse156

Anyone bought in these new estates?
What do you think?

zootroid

KingoftheSpoof wrote: »

Lots of houses still available so will be interesting to see how it pans out.

3 beds at 620k is insane money

I think most of Ashwood Hall sold for around 600k for the 4 beds

I thought the Ashwood Hall 4 bed semis were selling for around €785k? There's still one on MyHome.ie for that price, but I think it's very expensive given it's size is 148 square metres

Polkadotpjs

zootroid wrote: »

I thought the Ashwood Hall 4 bed semis were selling for around €785k? There's still one on MyHome.ie for that price, but I think it's very expensive given it's size is 148 square metres

You’re right there I think. I’m looking at the Brookfield houses which are far cheaper for pretty much the same houses. I’d also be interested to hear some opinions on the area?

3d4life

I found myself in the Claireville estate late one afternoon a couple of weeks ago. Was astonished that a soft ice cream van was plying its trade. Would that be normal in estates around Malahide ?

Smouse156

Polkadotpjs wrote: »

You’re right there I think. I’m looking at the Brookfield houses which are far cheaper for pretty much the same houses. I’d also be interested to hear some opinions on the area?

I’ve kept an eye on this area as I’d like to buy here but couldn’t justify the asking prices. Sales are slow and there are drops in Ashwood hall looking at the PPR.

21 Ashwood Hall sold for 756k (was asking 785k)
43 Ashwood Hall sold for 1.05M (asking 1.05M)
44 Ashwood Hall sold for 1.04M (asking 1.05M)
45 Ashwood Hall sold for 975k (asking 1.05M)

43/44/45 virtually identical, same type and same orientation.

So while asking prices have only dropped 10k (785k to 775k) the builder is taking offers below this!

Brookfield have only sold 4 houses out of 80 and they dropped the asking on the 3-bed semi from 620k to 595k a few days ago (none had sold).

Clairville Lodge have sold 30/34 (possibly 37).

Personally I would expect a decent drop in both Ashwood Hall and Brookfield as these are small builders and can’t leave them sit empty for years unlike Cairn Homes. Probably 10% by next summer

zootroid

I don't think Ashwood Hall or Brookfield are in the catchment area for schools in Malahide, so that would definitely count against those developments if that's the case

brisan

3d4life wrote: »

I found myself in the Claireville estate late one afternoon a couple of weeks ago. Was astonished that a soft ice cream van was plying its trade. Would that be normal in estates around Malahide ?

Was he selling ice cream or drugs ??
If it was ice cream then its perfectly normal

lawred2

zootroid wrote: »

I don't think Ashwood Hall or Brookfield are in the catchment area for schools in Malahide, so that would definitely count against those developments if that's the case

Are they on the back road? If so, pretty sure they are.

Polkadotpjs

Smouse156 wrote: »

I’ve kept an eye on this area as I’d like to buy here but couldn’t justify the asking prices. Sales are slow and there are drops in Ashwood hall looking at the PPR.

21 Ashwood Hall sold for 756k (was asking 785k)
43 Ashwood Hall sold for 1.05M (asking 1.05M)
44 Ashwood Hall sold for 1.04M (asking 1.05M)
45 Ashwood Hall sold for 975k (asking 1.05M)

43/44/45 virtually identical, same type and same orientation.

So while asking prices have only dropped 10k (785k to 775k) the builder is taking offers below this!

Brookfield have only sold 4 houses out of 80 and they dropped the asking on the 3-bed semi from 620k to 595k a few days ago (none had sold).

Clairville Lodge have sold 30/34 (possibly 37).

Personally I would expect a decent drop in both Ashwood Hall and Brookfield as these are small builders and can’t leave them sit empty for years unlike Cairn Homes. Probably 10% by next summer

Hi, did the agent tell you that no 3 beds had sold in Brookfield? Last I heard they had sold out and gone back in for planning for more. Maybe that changed though with Covid.

I agree on the prices, and would expect them to drop too in the coming months.

Smouse156

Polkadotpjs wrote: »

Hi, did the agent tell you that no 3 beds had sold in Brookfield? Last I heard they had sold out and gone back in for planning for more. Maybe that changed though with Covid.

I agree on the prices, and would expect them to drop too in the coming months.

No sales registered on the PPR for the 3-beds. The latest sale was for a 4-bed for €699,000 which appeared on the 4th Sep 2020. So unless they sold the lot recently I’d say the EA was lying 🀥!

They wouldn’t have dropped the price either if they had sold any

Polkadotpjs

Smouse156 wrote: »

No sales registered on the PPR for the 3-beds. The latest sale was for a 4-bed for €699,000 which appeared on the 4th Sep 2020. So unless they sold the lot recently I’d say the EA was lying 🀥!

They wouldn’t have dropped the price either if they had sold any

Ah ok - to be honest I don’t really put much weight on the PPR. Houses only appear once the sale is closed and they’re ready to move into.

I have just found the original price list from early this year and number 15 was listed at 595k. Drop me a PM if you want a copy.

Like yourself, I haven’t bought yet but I’m keeping a close eye on things.

Smouse156

Polkadotpjs wrote: »

Ah ok - to be honest I don’t really put much weight on the PPR. Houses only appear once the sale is closed and they’re ready to move into.

I have just found the original price list from early this year and number 15 was listed at 595k. Drop me a PM if you want a copy.

Like yourself, I haven’t bought yet but I’m keeping a close eye on things.

I’m aware but they jacked the price then dropped it. If a sale was registered in September as the latest then it’s highly likely that hardly any three bed sold. Maybe one did. But 4 sales in a year shows they’re struggling.

The PPR is great as it removes the spin...”last ones remaining” and all that nonsense.

lawred2

Ah yeah but deposits could be taken on many of them but the loan offers haven't been finalized... Are the houses complete?

Smouse156

lawred2 wrote: »

Ah yeah but deposits could be taken on many of them but the loan offers haven't been finalized... Are the houses complete?

I don’t know how many are complete but I do know they’ve only sold 4! I don’t believe any EA bull**** about deposits, good will, etc

I just stick to the facts and the facts are they dropped prices of one house type last week and 4/80 have actually sold. They are overpriced and will likely drop in the coming year. Small builders unlike Cairn can’t sit on them for years. Cost of finance too high

KingoftheSpoof

Looked at these houses a few times. Nice estate but always felt they were slightly over priced.

3 beds are small for the money being asked and have small enough back gardens and literally zero storage space.

4 beds are better size but I think they are priced high and don't have much storage space either for families.

Not surprising that only 4 have sold at the prices being asked.

Builders have started the work on Seamount which is due for next year. Be interested to see what price point they come in at vs Brookfield.

Smouse156

Just wondering if anyone here actually bought a new build in Malahide and if they are happy with it?

DavidA330

We purchased in Brookfield. Couldnt be happier on all fronts - finish is excellent and builder is brilliant to deal with. €595 is for the smaller 3 beds that are North facing. I understand 3 families moving in before Christmas - remainder just after. New phase launching early 2021.

Farrell D

What sizes are the new builds in malahide are they around 1,520 sq.ft

Cant seen to find the size of the new builds in
Brookfield, Back Road, Malahide, Co. Dublin

Smouse156

DavidA330 wrote: »

We purchased in Brookfield. Couldnt be happier on all fronts - finish is excellent and builder is brilliant to deal with. €595 is for the smaller 3 beds that are North facing. I understand 3 families moving in before Christmas - remainder just after. New phase launching early 2021.

Thanks. We are looking at the area and was wondering if there are many kids around (between Ashwood hall, Brookfield, castleway)? We have a young son so it would be important to us.

Farrell D

What sizes are the new builds in malahide are they around 1,520 sq.ft

Cant seen to find the size of the new builds in
Brookfield, Back Road, Malahide, Co. Dublin

Smouse156

Farrell D wrote: »

What sizes are the new builds in malahide are they around 1,520 sq.ft

Cant seen to find the size of the new builds in
Brookfield, Back Road, Malahide, Co. Dublin

In Brookfield, they range from 116-177sqm. If you look at the add on MyHome.ie there is a brochure under documents with details:

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/brookfield-brookfield-back-road-malahide-county-dublin/4361388

The price per square foot is very high IMO, especially for the castle 3-beds. You’d be looking at instant devaluation paying those prices. Some units were over €500/sqft.

When you compare that the following in Robswall sold for €288/sqft (€663,000/2300...not a new build yes but still a B rated house), you’d have to think they’re very expensive:

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/36-the-crescent-robswall-malahide-county-dublin/4343893

Cyrus

Smouse156 wrote: »

When you compare that the following in Robswall sold for €288/sqft (€663,000/2300...not a new build yes but still a B rated house), you’d have to think they’re very expensive:

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/36-the-crescent-robswall-malahide-county-dublin/4343893

no familiar with the area but that appears to have been value

brisan

Cyrus wrote: »

no familiar with the area but that appears to have been value

Its Malahide (kinda)
You would not walk home from Duffy's pub at midnight after a few pints
Its halfway between Malahide and Portmarnock
lovely houses and apartments but fairly crowded and depending on where you are in the estate its a bit of a walk to the main road
that house certainly was underpriced compared to others in the estate

lawred2

brisan wrote: »

Its Malahide (kinda)
You would not walk home from Duffy's pub at midnight after a few pints
Its halfway between Malahide and Portmarnock
lovely houses and apartments but fairly crowded and depending on where you are in the estate its a bit of a walk to the main road
that house certainly was underpriced compared to others in the estate

Jesus... Robswall is barely a ten minute walk from Duffy's

brisan

lawred2 wrote: »

Jesus... Robswall is barely a ten minute walk from Duffy's

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/2-the-anchorage-robswall-malahide-county-dublin/4435771

28 minutes walk from that property to Malahide DART station according to MyHome
Duffys is about 30 secs closer

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/42-the-walk-robswall-malahide-county-dublin/4251314
That one is 33 minutes walk

lawred2

brisan wrote: »

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/2-the-anchorage-robswall-malahide-county-dublin/4435771

28 minutes walk from that property to Malahide DART station
Duffys is about 30 secs closer

that's a google maps measure I presume...

would you consider Biscayne half way to Portmarnock?

brisan

lawred2 wrote: »

that's a google maps measure I presume...

would you consider Biscayne half way to Portmarnock?

Depends on what you consider Portmarnock and what you consider Malahide
People out there can be very particular about where they say they live
Would you consider Waterside to be In Malahide ,its advertised as such

lawred2

brisan wrote: »

Depends on what you consider Portmarnock and what you consider Malahide
People out there can be very particular about where they say they live
Would you consider Waterside to be In Malahide ,its advertised as such

Waterside is nothing like Biscayne or Robswall really

brisan

lawred2 wrote: »

Waterside is nothing like Biscayne or Robswall really

I never said it was just that its advertised as Malahide
All I said was that Robswall in Malahide is at least a 20 min walk to Duffy's depending on where in the estate you live

lawred2

brisan wrote: »

I never said it was just that its advertised as Malahide
All I said was that Robswall in Malahide is at least a 20 min walk to Duffy's depending on where in the estate you live

people walk slower than me maybe