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CelticRambler

:mad: Additional photo ID - quietly going mad ...

Passport office (in London) not answering the phone, e-mail enquiry limited to 250 characters (WTF???) so hoping you good people can help.

DaughterNo.2 has just turned 18. Was previously named on my passport (and her mothers') until those were renewed several years ago, and due to a family break-up was issued with a UK passport in the meantime. She uses this for travel all the time, so can't be without it for a month or two while her application is processed.

Unfortunately, she has no other photo ID, other than a rail card that she also uses all the time and has a "social media" type photo on it, and a few DIY-style crappy laminated badges from previous volunteer work. She doesn't drive, none of her leisure activities require photo id cards, and she's on a gap year so has no student ID.

She can't be the only child-turned-adult with no other photo ID; how have others got around this problem?

munchkin_utd

CelticRambler, whats the problem ?
Do you mean shes applying for an irish passport and is submitting her UK passport as part of that ?
As far as I know the submitted passport is returned ASAP so she wouldnt be without it for long anyhow.

Are you sure she needs to actually submit the UK passport anyhow when applying for an irish passport?
If the parent was born in Ireland then it doesn't seem to be necessary for a child if born abroad and definitely wouldnt be necessary if they are born in Ireland .
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/passports/applying_for_or_renewing_an_irish_passport.html

fxotoole

@CelticRambler you need to make an appointment for the London passport office so that they can take a photocopy of her UK passport and hand the original back to you

Edit: or she needs to make the appointment, as the case may be

fxotoole

munchkin_utd wrote: »

CelticRambler, whats the problem ?
Do you mean shes applying for an irish passport and is submitting her UK passport as part of that ?
As far as I know the submitted passport is returned ASAP so she wouldnt be without it for long anyhow.

Are you sure she needs to actually submit the UK passport anyhow when applying for an irish passport?
If the parent was born in Ireland then it doesn't seem to be necessary for a child if born abroad and definitely wouldnt be necessary if they are born in Ireland .
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/passports/applying_for_or_renewing_an_irish_passport.html

I’m pretty sure she’s be treated as a first time adult applicant, given that she’s only ever been listed on a parents passport, and never had a full Irish passport in her own name. Therefore she’d need to provide official ID to establish her identity

munchkin_utd

fxotoole wrote: »

I’m pretty sure she’s be treated as a first time adult applicant, given that she’s only ever been listed on a parents passport, and never had a full Irish passport in her own name. Therefore she’d need to provide official ID to establish her identity

sorry, but the proof of identity is normally done by the signature of the forms and photos by a witness (who in my experience are ALWAYS contacted to verify they know you and did sign the forms) which is stated in the list of documents required.
You only need to submit your foreign passport if you are born abroad to irish citizen parents themselves not born in Ireland (i.e. you are on the foreign births register).

CelticRambler

munchkin_utd wrote: »

You only need to submit your foreign passport if you are born abroad to irish citizen parents themselves not born in Ireland (i.e. you are on the foreign births register).

That is her situation (born in the UK, was on my passport from when she was born until it expired).


The FAQs are clear enough on the subject; it's just that the process doesn't seem to cater for people for whom their passport is their only form of photo ID.

fxotoole wrote: »

@CelticRambler you need to make an appointment for the London passport office so that they can take a photocopy of her UK passport and hand the original back to you

Edit: or she needs to make the appointment, as the case may be

That's why I've been trying (but failing) to make contact with the London passport office - can't make an appointment if they never answer. I'm meeting her in London next week so was hoping we could call in then to sort it out.

splinter65

CelticRambler wrote: »

That is her situation (born in the UK, was on my passport from when she was born until it expired).


The FAQs are clear enough on the subject; it's just that the process doesn't seem to cater for people for whom their passport is their only form of photo ID.






That's why I've been trying (but failing) to make contact with the London passport office - can't make an appointment if they never answer. I'm meeting her in London next week so was hoping we could call in then to sort it out.

Your Irish passport must have expired a very long time ago because it must be 15 years since it was possible to “put a child on a passport” here.

missrandomer

hi all,

im sure you see this question all the time but im hoping you can help, were going away on 25th Sept, I realised my daughters passport is out of date so I sent in the application by passport express yesterday, however it takes 15 working days, which I thought I had loads of time.... but it isn't due until the 25th.

Does anyone have any feedback on the passport express turn around times at the moment?
and is there anything else I can do to speed this up? I don't think I can make an appointment but I don't know if I can pick up the passport from them, even though it would be sooner than the date they advised it would be ready (excluding postal times)

im devastated that I let this happen, im normally so organised.

any help would be great guys thanks

Strazdas

missrandomer wrote: »

hi all,

im sure you see this question all the time but im hoping you can help, were going away on 25th Sept, I realised my daughters passport is out of date so I sent in the application by passport express yesterday, however it takes 15 working days, which I thought I had loads of time.... but it isn't due until the 25th.

Does anyone have any feedback on the passport express turn around times at the moment?
and is there anything else I can do to speed this up? I don't think I can make an appointment but I don't know if I can pick up the passport from them, even though it would be sooner than the date they advised it would be ready (excluding postal times)

im devastated that I let this happen, im normally so organised.

any help would be great guys thanks

I got mine very quickly in the last fortnight. I applied by Passport Express on a Wednesday afternoon and it arrived by post on the following Tuesday (six day turnaround).

CelticRambler

splinter65 wrote: »

Your Irish passport must have expired a very long time ago because it must be 15 years since it was possible to “put a child on a passport” here.

Yes, seven years ago, so the children "disappeared" off it when I renewed. But that's not the problem with my daughter's application.


Anyway, I eventually managed to get through to someone in the Dublin passport office. It sounds like the only way around this is to make an appointment for an "urgent" application at the London office (even though it's not urgent) and get her UK passport copied there (as also suggested by fxotoole).


It seems strange that there's no way to get an appointment for just this purpose, other than going through the "urgent travel" route online and taking up a slot that might be needed by someone who actually needs to a passport in a hurry.

missrandomer

Strazdas wrote: »

I got mine very quickly in the last fortnight. I applied by Passport Express on a Wednesday afternoon and it arrived by post on the following Tuesday (six day turnaround).

oh great, that would be amazing!! thanks for that, theres hope for me yet
Did you check the updates with your tracking number?

pc7

Used the passport renewal online service and had passport within 36 hours of applying, seriously excellent service. Highly recommend (and cheaper than passport express!)

LazySamaritan

My passport expired last year. I never got around to renewing it and I'm going to need one very soon but I've lost it.

I'm going to keep looking because the online process says it might required but if I can't find it on time what option should I choose when applying online - that it has expired or that I have lost it?

Does it really matter that I cannot find it? How often do they ask for the old one or what reasons do they need to see it?

I have a scan of it on my computer - might that be enough?

fxotoole

CelticRambler wrote: »

That is her situation (born in the UK, was on my passport from when she was born until it expired).


The FAQs are clear enough on the subject; it's just that the process doesn't seem to cater for people for whom their passport is their only form of photo ID.






That's why I've been trying (but failing) to make contact with the London passport office - can't make an appointment if they never answer. I'm meeting her in London next week so was hoping we could call in then to sort it out.

You can make an appointment online. https://www.passportappointments.ie/

No need to ring them

missrandomer

pc7 wrote: »

Used the passport renewal online service and had passport within 36 hours of applying, seriously excellent service. Highly recommend (and cheaper than passport express!)

that's impressive I might use that next year when mine is out, however I couldn't use online for my daughter as she's 12. Think its for only over 18's

I would've been sceptical using the online myself but I think that's the way to go for renewals if that's the turnaround time

fxotoole

LazySamaritan wrote: »

My passport expired last yea. I never got around to renewing it and I'm going to need one very soon but I've lost it.

I'm going to keep looking because the online process says it might required but if I can't find it on time what option should I choose when applying online - that it has expired or that I have lost it?

Does it really matter that I cannot find it? How often do they ask for the old one or what reasons do they need to see it?

I have a scan of it on my computer - might that be enough?

You can renew your passport online, even if you’ve lost it. You don’t need to find it to renew online.

pc7

missrandomer wrote: »

Think its for only over 18's

yeah think its over 18, can't be more than x years of out date, can't have more than 12 months left, something like that. But only way to do renewals now, really super efficient way.

LazySamaritan

fxotoole wrote: »

You can renew your passport online, even if you’ve lost it. You don’t need to find it to renew online.

So what about where they say in the expired - "You must hold onto your Passport Book until your new Passport Book is received as the Passport Service may require it to complete your application."

Do they ever actually need the old passport?

LazySamaritan

pc7 wrote: »

Used the passport renewal online service and had passport within 36 hours of applying, seriously excellent service. Highly recommend (and cheaper than passport express!)

Is it always that quick with online renewal?

pc7

LazySamaritan wrote: »

Is it always that quick with online renewal?

I don't know it was my first time to try it, but noticed others in thread also had a good experience.

salmocab

LazySamaritan wrote: »

Is it always that quick with online renewal?

Once everything is in order it seems to be, there are special photo booths to get the photo taken if you want and it gives you a code to input during the process and your photo pops up

fxotoole

LazySamaritan wrote: »

So what about where they say in the expired - "You must hold onto your Passport Book until your new Passport Book is received as the Passport Service may require it to complete your application."

Do they ever actually need the old passport?

No idea. Sounds like they’re covering their ass in the 1% of cases where they need to examine the old passport to ensure someone’s not trying to steal another persons identity, etc

pc7

salmocab wrote: »

Once everything is in order it seems to be, there are special photo booths to get the photo taken if you want and it gives you a code to input during the process and your photo pops up

I just used the mobile phone and followed their guidelines and it accepted the photo

salmocab

pc7 wrote: »

I just used the mobile phone and followed their guidelines and it accepted the photo

Yeah was gonna do that but a mates was rejected 3 times and he couldn’t get it right so I didn’t try.

VG31

salmocab wrote: »

Yeah was gonna do that but a mates was rejected 3 times and he couldn’t get it right so I didn’t try.

I had the same problem and I took mine with a proper camera. I followed the guidelines exactly. I went to a photo booth in the end and it rejected the photo despite it looking perfectly fine. I did manage to get a refund from the photo booth company thankfully.

Overall it took four attempts to get the photo right (two with my camera, two from the photo booths). My dad also got the photo for the online application done in a booth and his was also rejected the first time.

Maybe I was just unlucky, but they seem to be extremely particular about the photos.

pc7

That's weird it rejected the photo booth one? I must have just been lucky with the mobile ones.

VG31

pc7 wrote: »

That's weird it rejected the photo booth one? I must have just been lucky with the mobile ones.

The photo booth one was automatically rejected as soon as I tried to upload it. The guy who I talked to from the photo booth company didn't know what was wrong with it. I got my money back quickly to be fair.

The ones I took myself were rejected a few days later so I presume a human must have looked at them.

MOH

VG31 wrote: »

The photo booth one was automatically rejected as soon as I tried to upload it. The guy who I talked to from the photo booth company didn't know what was wrong with it. I got my money back quickly to be fair.

The ones I took myself were rejected a few days later so I presume a human must have looked at them.

I got somebody to take a few pictures with my phone. They were of varying quality, but a bit of messing around cropping to the right size and one of them was accepted, which didn't appear much different to the rejected ones. Seems abut hit and miss.

Lashes28

Sent renewal for child's passport on 28th August received today. Was worried about his pics but no problems and really quick turnaround

Zascar

Guys I'm trying to find flights from Dublin to LAX. All the booking sites seem to lure you in with low prices that are not actually real. Or no baggage included which is insane - then they charge you €100 extra per bag etc. What's the best price I'm likely to get, dates 29th Sept to 13th Oct?

vg88

Zascar wrote: »

Guys I'm trying to find flights from Dublin to LAX. All the booking sites seem to lure you in with low prices that are not actually real. Or no baggage included which is insane - then they charge you €100 extra per bag etc. What's the best price I'm likely to get, dates 29th Sept to 13th Oct?

Anything 500-600 with less than a month would be doing well imo. Some good offers on skysanner for less than 400 atm indirect (dunno about bags).

Air Canada offering for 409 currently.

Zascar

Got it via Ethiopian Airways for €479 - Had to go a day later than planned but it's direct so happy.

Greg81

Not sure if that fits here but if you are traveling through the Amsterdam Schiphol Airport you could request €5 shopping discount voucher here:

https://www.schiphol.nl/en/seebuyfly-shopping-voucher/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkbrxyfuv3QIVVJN-Ch2JDwrVEAAYASAAEgIWUfD_BwE

bigwillie

Great find Greg, thanks for posting.

Francie Barrett

I applied online and was told my passport was in the post Monday, I even got a An Post tracking code. The only problem is that when I enter it on the website, the tracking code isn't found. Anyone experience this?

Danye

Hi all,

Flight tomorrow but passport expired in July.

I’ve an appointment tomorrow morning in passport office. Has anybody had any experience with a similar situation?

Will I get my passport there and then and then off to the airport or what way would it work?

Any advice / help greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Caranica

Danye wrote: »

Hi all,

Flight tomorrow but passport expired in July.

I’ve an appointment tomorrow morning in passport office. Has anybody had any experience with a similar situation?

Will I get my passport there and then and then off to the airport or what way would it work?

Any advice / help greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Can you change your flight? Same day usually requires proof of emergency, death certificate, letter from doctor of serious illness, that kind of thing

EyesClosed

Danye wrote: »

Hi all,

Flight tomorrow but passport expired in July.

I’ve an appointment tomorrow morning in passport office. Has anybody had any experience with a similar situation?

Will I get my passport there and then and then off to the airport or what way would it work?

Any advice / help greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

I had a similar issue a while back, went to the passport office and was told "ehh no, apply online". Had to cancel my trip. Hopefully it goes better for you. But I wouldn't hold out much hope.

NSAman

This might me good. I applied online and it was turned around in one day.. the delivery took 5 days!!!!

Have to say the passport office has come a long way in recent years. Hope it works out ok.

Ultimate Seduction

Get in line and wait 6 weeks like those of us who actually remember to renew!

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Danye wrote: »

Hi all,

Flight tomorrow but passport expired in July.

I’ve an appointment tomorrow morning in passport office. Has anybody had any experience with a similar situation?

Will I get my passport there and then and then off to the airport or what way would it work?

Any advice / help greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

How's Ireland? :pac:

fxotoole

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I applied online and was told my passport was in the post Monday, I even got a An Post tracking code. The only problem is that when I enter it on the website, the tracking code isn't found. Anyone experience this?

An post haven’t updated their database at the time that you were searching. Since your post is two days old, you’ve probably gotten your passport by now.

Danye

Got sorted today. Flight change for €50 until tomorrow morning.



Thanks all for your help.

michdee

I don't know what's going on in Ireland at the minute but I'm looking for a one night away a sat, and hotel prices are ridiculous!
Are there any good sites to use for booking that I'm missing?? All I'm looking for is a decent town and can park the car when we arrive and leave it til we are leaving the next day! Like b&b rates are coming in at 170e up for one night! Looking at Dub, cork, galway, athlone, wexford so it's not that we are set on one area.....Are hotels really gone this expensive

vicwatson

And only 9% vat rate

michdee

I know its ridiculous, and the last few we have been to can def go back and learn customer service! What's going on??

Arrival

Yeah it's a disgrace for what you get really but then again we're ****ing gouged for everything in this country, we stand idly by as we have stealth tax after stealth tax forced upon us

ednwireland

Hotels are full season has extended noticed it in our town tourists would be pretty much gone by now but last couple of years they keep coming !

sillysocks

Try pigsback, I hadn’t used it in a while but got a couple of good deals over the summer for hotels. Sometimes it wasn’t hugely cheaper than the hotel direct but you’d get dinners or hotel credit etc included that meant it was better value. The Heritage in Killenard is nice if you can get it on there!

michdee

Thanks was checking them out there on pigsback and most are for week days and also seem to be only from oct onwards at the minute! I'm glad others agree prices are ridiculous, I thought I was losing it :eek: